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Dragoonlordz wrote...

kbct wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I make hundreds of thousands of sales each year thanks of the product I create personally and sell.


I'm sure you laugh off your customers too. Or perhaps you try to work with them like a normal businessman?


You do not give in to every demand a customer makes. You decide as a business which customers have prority based on amount purchase. If there is time or if cost is not considered to high in order to meet their demands and many other factors. How they act and treat others also plays a part. A customer who orders 100k of units will be catered to more than an individual who orders a dozen. Cost and time factors. The only ones who I cater to with specific demands are the ones who order more than ( x ) number of stock. If Bioware decided the cost is too high or demand too low, or even if they choose to stick with their inital product then that is their choice. Some customers may leave, others will buy in their place. Swings and roundabouts.

You can live in this fantasy world of yours if you so chose but not every customer is catered to, their demands are weighed up and if I the creator and producer of the products deems it too expensive or not worth the time I will not do it. Other customers with bigger orders take precedant and if I have the time or consider the cost within boundaries I select to be high enough to make it worth my time I will maybe cater to those other customers. Outside of that, the ones I do not cater to who make specific demands have a choice to purchase what I created or not. Almost always they do so with very few exceptions. That is the reality of mass produced items.

As I said and is factual I have some of the biggest supermarkets in the UK who buy my products, I have international customers that order hundreds of thousands a year. I know how business works and my business is very successful, thanks. What do you do? How many units do you sell each year? I would love to hear what makes your opinion more valid than mine. I have a business, I make hundreds of thousands of sales and have some extremely large customers both nationally and internationally. So feel free to list your more valid experience.



Dragon.... what is the first rule of dealing with people that hate a product, but yet has no proof that he played/ or used the product that we dole out...

i know it, wanted to remind you of this before you get into mega argument with the trolls and yes i reported the head  one that doing his hate speech on  trying to subvert people into not buying a said product.

Modifié par Ravenmyste, 14 avril 2012 - 02:34 .


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Lol Im just wondering what BioWare did to get this great of a number of douche-bag customers? Seriously, I think that we have taken Activision's spot (Not directed at the OP, but the idiots that responded to him/her).

Here's a thought: if you don't care that the OP is leaving why in ****'s name are you posting in their thread telling them that you don't care?


I think it's funny that b!odrone is a blocked word. Because some people think BioWare can do no wrong. And if they do, you shouldn't voice your opinion about it.

Modifié par kbct, 14 avril 2012 - 02:36 .


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Lol Im just wondering what BioWare did to get this great of a number of douche-bag customers? Seriously, I think that we have taken Activision's spot (Not directed at the OP, but the idiots that responded to him/her).

Here's a thought: if you don't care that the OP is leaving why in ****'s name are you posting in their thread telling them that you don't care?


You should know that all MMO/game has that kind of thread and everyone just post in those thread to flame or troll the OP. The same apply to any games. It's just the law of nature.The so that the strong prevail.

Or maybe it's because of something else...  But It's a secret. None shall know it.

Modifié par Imperium Alpha, 14 avril 2012 - 02:36 .


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Ravenmyste wrote... yes i reported the head  one that doing his hate speech on  trying to subvert people into not buying a said product.

-wat?

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imperium Alpha wrote...

The so that the strong prevail.

Or maybe it's because of something else...  But It's a secret. None shall know it.


That's the saddest thing i have read on this thread so far.

Modifié par Doctor Uburian, 14 avril 2012 - 02:38 .


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And that's based off...?


Fine, what have you accomplished?


I volunteer at the foodbank run by the local church and make regular donations to charity, not that it should matter. I don't think I'm anything special, nor do I think I deserve anything, because of it. I don't try to personally take credit for every penny donated or raised by a charity in order to advance myself personally, and I find such behavior abhorrent. You're not so much donating to a charity, as you're essentially trying to "buy" cred to leverage for things you want, as is obvious from everything you've been posting. If it weren't for you wanting ME3 changed, would you have donated to any charity at all? Considering the big deal you make of this, I don't think you've ever even looked in the direction of a charity before now.

When someone posts claiming that they change the world for the better, belittle several other people, and then claim they're "just a student so don't have the resources to do more than complain on a videogame forum about what other people should be doing" I find it offensive. He has time he could donate, if he's so dedicated to finding something to be self-righteous about. Lead by example.

Modifié par Rojahar, 14 avril 2012 - 02:42 .


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Ohhh, really? Good to know.

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Ravenmyste wrote...

i know it, wanted to remind you of this before you get into mega argument with the trolls and yes i reported the head  one that doing his hate speech on  trying to subvert people into not buying a said product.


You reported someone for telling people not to buy ME3 ? Did that person lie or make any false claims?

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Farbautisonn wrote...

Ravenmyste wrote... yes i reported the head  one that doing his hate speech on  trying to subvert people into not buying a said product.

-wat?


you know what i wrote, and what it means  care to say that i am wrong?

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Doctor Uburian wrote...

imperium Alpha wrote...

The so that the strong prevail.

Or maybe it's because of something else...  But It's a secret. None shall know it.


That's the saddest thing i have read on this thread so far.


I love to bring sadness and despair to humanity. 

Mission Accomplish
           //N7\\\\

Modifié par Imperium Alpha, 14 avril 2012 - 02:41 .


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Rojahar wrote...

kbct wrote...

Rojahar wrote...

And that's based off...?


Fine, what have you accomplished?


I volunteer at the foodbank run by the local church and make regular donations to charity, not that it should matter.


That's nice of you. Do you feel bad that the Child's Play kids received $80K? Would you rather them have $80K less?

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BobSmith101 wrote...

Ravenmyste wrote...

i know it, wanted to remind you of this before you get into mega argument with the trolls and yes i reported the head  one that doing his hate speech on  trying to subvert people into not buying a said product.


You reported someone for telling people not to buy ME3 ? Did that person lie or make any false claims?



care to show that you  played the game legally?

by showing the 3 under you avatar?

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Ravenmyste wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...

Ravenmyste wrote... yes i reported the head  one that doing his hate speech on  trying to subvert people into not buying a said product.

-wat?


you know what i wrote, and what it means  care to say that i am wrong?


No, it was cryptic passive-agressive stuff.

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Ravenmyste wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...

Ravenmyste wrote... yes i reported the head  one that doing his hate speech on  trying to subvert people into not buying a said product.

-wat?


you know what i wrote, and what it means  care to say that i am wrong?

IDK if that qualifies as a hate speech. Unless i am thinking of something else.

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Imperium Alpha wrote...

I love to bring sadness and despair to humanity. 

Mission Accomplish
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I suppose that you are just trolling, aren't you?

Of course you are <_<

Modifié par Doctor Uburian, 14 avril 2012 - 02:45 .


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Ravenmyste wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Ravenmyste wrote...

i know it, wanted to remind you of this before you get into mega argument with the trolls and yes i reported the head  one that doing his hate speech on  trying to subvert people into not buying a said product.


You reported someone for telling people not to buy ME3 ? Did that person lie or make any false claims?



care to show that you  played the game legally?

by showing the 3 under you avatar?


Not really since it's none of your concern anyway.

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Ravenmyste wrote...

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care to show that you  played the game legally?

by showing the 3 under you avatar?

Deflect much?
Half of the Pro-end people have the same problem. I myself am waiting...

Modifié par slyguy200, 14 avril 2012 - 02:53 .


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Ravenmyste wrote...

care to show that you  played the game legally?

by showing the 3 under you avatar?


People have had all sorts of problems registering their game. Lots of threads about it.

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Ravenmyste wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Ravenmyste wrote...

i know it, wanted to remind you of this before you get into mega argument with the trolls and yes i reported the head  one that doing his hate speech on  trying to subvert people into not buying a said product.


You reported someone for telling people not to buy ME3 ? Did that person lie or make any false claims?



care to show that you  played the game legally?

by showing the 3 under you avatar?


Sorry to be the grammar police, but your posts are REALLY hard to read...

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Ravenmyste wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...

Ravenmyste wrote... yes i reported the head  one that doing his hate speech on  trying to subvert people into not buying a said product.

-wat?


you know what i wrote, and what it means  care to say that i am wrong?


Yep. I do. You do not undestand the definitions of "hate speech" or "subvert". And considering that you use the terms so falsely I presume you got them in a PM from Draggun'. And that makes both him and you look worse.

I'm advocating a cause. Campaining an issue. Using freedom of expression. If people feel dissapointed about the game, I remind them of past failiures, of current failiures and ask them to draw the logical deduction from said failiures. I encourage them to not buy EA/Bioware games and perhaps find other games to support. I see no harm in that? Im quite open about it too.

Why so threatened? ^_^

Modifié par Farbautisonn, 14 avril 2012 - 02:51 .


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slyguy200 wrote...

Ravenmyste wrote...

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care to show that you  played the game legally?

by showing the 3 under you avatar?

Deflect much?
Half of the Pro-end people have the same problem. I myself am waiting.


Ahhh... pirates...
Your words are as empty as your future. I am the Vanguard of your destruction. This exchange is over... 

Modifié par Imperium Alpha, 14 avril 2012 - 02:49 .


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Ravenmyste wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Ravenmyste wrote...

i know it, wanted to remind you of this before you get into mega argument with the trolls and yes i reported the head  one that doing his hate speech on  trying to subvert people into not buying a said product.


You reported someone for telling people not to buy ME3 ? Did that person lie or make any false claims?



care to show that you  played the game legally?

by showing the 3 under you avatar?


Apparently we have people dumb enough to believe that the only way to play Mass Effect 3 legally requres that they register their copy on the Bioware BSN.

Modifié par Il Divo, 14 avril 2012 - 02:51 .


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Il Divo wrote...
Apparently we have people dumb enough to believe that the only way to play Mass Effect 3 legally requres that they register on the Bioware BSN.


-Its a conspiracy. :lol:

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Aj they have to be inactive a week before they can self-delete accounts.

Such attitude smacks me as people don't get their way and take their ball and go home.

You disagreed with the ending to a form of entertainment not some major life-changing event. People need a healthy perspective on things.

I hope you find happiness and can still play games in the future. You may disown all companies eventually.

I am glad BW is holding the line becasue the alternative is to always give fans a happy ending so there is no controversy. I don't want the same stuff regurgiated in every game. You anti-enders will lead to more generalization about games not less. It is supposed to be something you hate from saying COD clone game. Yet an ending has to conform to you or else.

So devs may attempt less going with known formulas because they may be reported for false advertisement.

They will put simple generic happy endings to appease the masses.

they will not bother about doing the nice things for fans because of resentment engendered by demanding more and more. They gave us many things and you rage over one thing you did not get. They gave people Tali and Garrus romances and listened on gameplay feedback and made changes they thought the majority wanted. They have been flexible and you are not.

No thinking is required by devs I guess because your purchase demands the right to have a game as you want it right?

Gaming is made poorer not richer by this stand against one of the higher quality devs out there.


+1

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Il Divo wrote...

Apparently we have people dumb enough to believe that the only way to play Mass Effect 3 legally requres that they register their copy on the Bioware BSN.


Yeah, even though I've purchased all BioWare games since BG, the ONLY reason I registered my game is so I could post in the spoiler section.

Why should we register the game?