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[Ultra Prism]

So much for artistic vision lol

[mumwaldee369]

sdfgdsfsdfsfs wrote...

You guys just don't understand, shooting the pipe is the only way the game could have ended. Reapers are immune to any form of conventional attack. If you look at the word "con-vent-ion" you will actually see that it is a concatenation of the Latin prefix con-, meaning "with," with the words "vent" and "ion." It literally means "with an ion vent."

Thus, the only way to destroy the Reapers is to destroy the ion vent that powers them, because that is the only choice that eliminates convention.

I support the ion vent pipe theory.

[Diesel McBadass]

Stationary pip....nice end boss. way more thrilling than a human reaper or rogue spectr

[Manton-X2]

arathor_87 wrote...
As I said in an earlier post, people are whining about the extended cut, even though they don't know the content in it. WE WANT A NEW ENDING *CRY*.  I'm aware that many people are disappointed, but what do you think will happen if they change the ending and those who actually liked it starts to complain. 

People who are disappointed are here voting in polls and starting threads about it, but people who actually like it are playing the game or do something else. Why would they come to this warzone?

I didn't like the ending, but at least I can see it from a different point of view. And I'm not speaking for all of us as many others do. Look at posts from people who did like the ending, they get trashed and being called trolls. The problem with some people (not all because I know that many people ain't like this) who didn't like the ending are that they can't accept that some people do.

And the amazing part is you see yourself as different than these other people who attack those who liked the ending.  Whinning .. crying ... whatever.  That goes both ways.  There is no need for either group to be going in and attacking the other.  One is no nobler than the other.

I do not begrudge those who enjoyed the ending, in fact I envy them.  They were able to enjoy something that I completely loved.  Yes, there are those who can't accept that anyone else liked it.  They can't fathom it.  I can't fathom it either, but then I can accept that some people like different things and I couldn't care less if they do.  Good for them.  

What I am sick and tired of is people who refused to let their voices be heard when they hated the ending and those who berated those who complained about the ending now benifitting with the new DLC and STILL berating and talking about those of us who complained.  You talk about people not accepting that some people liked it, but you don't seem to accep that the premise on which they are basing this DLC (clarifying) does not address the core issue that many of us have with the ending.  It is not simply we didn't understand it ... it's that the ending is broken .. the narrative is ruined and the choices are false.

There is no way the Extended Cut DLC can address these issues ... and even more, we realize that this is it.  There will be nothing else.   By the time this comes out, the game will be well beyond its primary sales window.  They will not spend another dime to do anything to the ending.

MX2

[Soaringeagle78]

DJBare wrote...

You forgot one

"I should run toward the exploding pipe while shooting it"

Or how about just using Biotics if you have them. Or better still, why not just throw one of the ME1 grenades at it. It would give Shepard a minute or so to figure out how to get off.

[mumwaldee369]

Manton-X2 wrote...

arathor_87 wrote...
As I said in an earlier post, people are whining about the extended cut, even though they don't know the content in it. WE WANT A NEW ENDING *CRY*.  I'm aware that many people are disappointed, but what do you think will happen if they change the ending and those who actually liked it starts to complain. 

People who are disappointed are here voting in polls and starting threads about it, but people who actually like it are playing the game or do something else. Why would they come to this warzone?

I didn't like the ending, but at least I can see it from a different point of view. And I'm not speaking for all of us as many others do. Look at posts from people who did like the ending, they get trashed and being called trolls. The problem with some people (not all because I know that many people ain't like this) who didn't like the ending are that they can't accept that some people do.

And the amazing part is you see yourself as different than these other people who attack those who liked the ending.  Whinning .. crying ... whatever.  That goes both ways.  There is no need for either group to be going in and attacking the other.  One is no nobler than the other.

I do not begrudge those who enjoyed the ending, in fact I envy them.  They were able to enjoy something that I completely loved.  Yes, there are those who can't accept that anyone else liked it.  They can't fathom it.  I can't fathom it either, but then I can accept that some people like different things and I couldn't care less if they do.  Good for them.  

What I am sick and tired of is people who refused to let their voices be heard when they hated the ending and those who berated those who complained about the ending now benifitting with the new DLC and STILL berating and talking about those of us who complained.  You talk about people not accepting that some people liked it, but you don't seem to accep that the premise on which they are basing this DLC (clarifying) does not address the core issue that many of us have with the ending.  It is not simply we didn't understand it ... it's that the ending is broken .. the narrative is ruined and the choices are false.

There is no way the Extended Cut DLC can address these issues ... and even more, we realize that this is it.  There will be nothing else.   By the time this comes out, the game will be well beyond its primary sales window.  They will not spend another dime to do anything to the ending.

MX2

Au contraire mon frere...have the pro-enders raised money for a children's charity.  Noble cause is noble. 

Modifié par mumwaldee369, 14 avril 2012 - 10:28 .

[Aquilas]

Look, Sovereign already told Shepard the Reapers were far beyond organics' comprehension. So Star-jars took a page out of Legion's book: he created an environment Shepard could understand with his incapable mind.

Shooting stuff always worked for Shepard, hence the pipe. Walking into the explosion? The pipe symbolized the Candle of Knowledge--Shepard was embracing it. Of course, it was a candle the size of an oil pipeline and the flame like that of an exploding gasoline tanker truck. But how brightly he shined!

The blue grab-handles? The old Mako's controls! Shepard could relive mastering that mighty machine, climbing those confounded peaks until he reached the summit of vision and comprehension.

The beam of light? Well, that was just a geyser of Space Magic. Ohhh, shiny!

[Rolling Flame]

DJBare wrote...

You forgot one

"I should run toward the exploding pipe while shooting it"

"Hey, what's the worst that could happen?"

Back on Earth:

"Man, I should've gotten better armour, that really hurt!"

[M Hedonist]

Both 'Synthesis' and 'Control' are now up as well. Check out the original post for links.

[Peranor]

Sauruz wrote...

"So I have to shoot this pipe to save the galaxy?"
"Yes. Shoot the pipe and you will save the galaxy from the reapers."
"Why do I have to shoot this pipe?
"You could also grab those glowing joy sticks or jump into the beam of light, if you prefer that."
"I mean, why would anyone build a device that gets activated by shooting a pipe?"
"I don't know. I'm just here to tell you what it does."
"So what will shooting that pipe do exactly?"
"It will destroy all synthetic life. Even you are partly synthetic."
"So you're implying I will die?"
"Actually, I'm not sure about that... what's your EMS again?"
"Nevermind. What about EDI?"
"Probably... wait, no, it's been confirmed she survives."
"Now that's just absurd.  So now you're saying shooting that pipe only destroys a certain type of synthetics? Does that pipe have a personality of its own or something? How does it choose who to destroy or not destroy exactly?"
"Listen, if you don't hurry up already the crucible will be destroyed."
"What? By whom?"
"Unfortunately, you won't get to see that."
"Alright, I'll just shoot this pipe and we'll see what happens."
"Fun!"
- Extended cut dialogue with the Catalyst

EDIT: Also, because DJBare reminded me:
Shepard's Internal Voice while shooting the pipe: "Slowly walking and directly looking into the explosion will guarantee to make me look like a cool guy. Or was it 'Cool Guys don't look at ex-" *Citadel explodes*

EDIT2: Also, Synthesis.

EDIT3: Also, bonus in good faith, Control.

INFIDEL!
Mass Effect is ART. And art is NOT subject to ridicule nor criticism!

Now go wash your mouth with soap and off to bed with you!

[mumwaldee369]

No seconds on dessert either.

[Spectre Impersonator]

Hackett: "So guys let's get started building the Crucible!"
Engineers: "YEAH!"
Hackett: "Okay it looks like the plans call for construction of a platform at the top with a beam up light at the end. On either side are a blue highlighted area with some sort of controls and a red highlighted area with a nondescript pipe."
Engineers: "Why are they so prominently placed in the Crucible? Might this be the control hub of this anti-Reaper weapon?"
Hackett: "Who cares? We have to build it, not understand how it works! Something tells me a hologram will explain how to do it when all seems to be lost."
Engineers: "Why wait until then? Maybe we should try and use this before half the galaxy gets destroyed."
Hackett: "Nonsense! Where's the drama in that?"
Engineers: "Why did we even color code a pipe anyway?"

[The Angry One]

MisterJB wrote...

Synthetic life is immortal. It requires only an handfull of resources, it does not require sleep or food.
There is nothing innherently wrong with harnessing those qualities for organic life while, at the same time, sharing our best qualities: empathy, creativity, emotions.

This might even enable the aliens stranded on Sol to survive until they reach they home systems.

Assumptions.
Joker's still limping. So there's one massive failure on BioWare's part to demonstrate even the most basic personal benefit of synthesis. Don't say it's because they lacked resources, because Joker in synthesis is an entirely seperate scene from Joker in destroy/control.

Also, it's the principle thing. The philosophy behind it is racist, it is not based on a wish to improve all species, but to make organics and synthetics stop fighting because (according to racist spacebaby) it's in their nature to always fight.

[Manton-X2]

mumwaldee369 wrote...

Au contraire mon frere...have the pro-enders raised money for a children's charity.  Noble cause is noble. 

Sorry, my friend, but raising money for charity is not noble when you try to benefit from it.  Raising money with no strings attached and because you believe in what you're supporting is noble.  Raising money to bring publicity to your cause is nice for the charity and I think it's a constructive way to do it, but it's not exactly noble.

[Spatchmo]

Don't be mean to Peter Molyneux he is just very, very enthusiastic! He loves what he does, and he always owns up to it when he isn't able to pull off what he wanted.

Both Casey Hudson and Peter Molyneux could stand to hire public relations people for themselves though, so they don't make promises they can't keep.

[Xenite]

The reapers came up with a giant pipe that when shot would destroy them.... devious masterminds I say!

[MisterJB]

The Angry One wrote...
Assumptions.

We have nothing else to go on until the Extended Cut is released.

Joker's still limping. So there's one massive failure on BioWare's part to demonstrate even the most basic personal benefit of synthesis. Don't say it's because they lacked resources, because Joker in synthesis is an entirely seperate scene from Joker in destroy/control.

I would have liked Bioware to be more explicit how Synthesis affected all life in the galaxy.
As it is, there are some justifications as to why Joker is still limping. Maybe it takes time or maybe Synthesis allows him to be cured through manners that were not previously available.

Also, it's the principle thing. The philosophy behind it is racist, it is not based on a wish to improve all species, but to make organics and synthetics stop fighting because (according to racist spacebaby) it's in their nature to always fight.

It is in the nature of all things to fight.
And to choose to not improve all species; choosing instead to commit genocide on the geth; due to principle is selfish.
The consequences are what matter. Not the reasoning behind them.

Modifié par MisterJB, 15 avril 2012 - 01:46 .

[awwnuts07]

Holy crap, all three of those are so funny.

[Creston918]

Quietness wrote...

sdfgdsfsdfsfs wrote...

JohnShepard12 wrote...

I shot the pipe too. I wanted to shoot something and since my bullets kept flying through the kid's head, it had to be that.

Why would whoever invented the Crucible make three choices that were all activated different ways anyway? Could they not make up their mind as they were building it? And how did all the human, asari, salarian, rachni engineers who put it together not understand what they were building when it was something as pathetically simple as "jump in light to win" or "shoot pipe to win".

It also begs the question: does Shepard have to jump into the beam? Couldn't they have thrown in TIM's corpse or something? How about one of the mangled bodies from inside the Citadel? Why did it have to be Shepard?

Kid did not say anything about indoctrinated bodies being bad, the big thing i got was that the body had to be part synthetic, im so tossing TiM's A** in there.

But... but... the elevator only goes up! You can't go back down to get TIM!

/Mac Walters trying to keep his 'bittersweet' crap going.

[TJX2045]

BecBec wrote...

DJBare wrote...

You forgot one

"I should run toward the exploding pipe while shooting it"

THIS ^ <_< I never understood why Shep walked towards the pipe and into an explosion :/

Because it was a "For Great Justice!" style death.  Like Thane doing Seppuku (except without the extra gore) by running into Kai Leng's sword.  

[tekkaman fear]

DJBare wrote...

You forgot one

"I should run toward the exploding pipe while shooting it"

Well, at least Shep didn't hold the gun sideways while doing it.

[Jestina]

I think he was smoking a pipe, not shooting it.

[Jadebaby]

+1 for making me laugh. And it's not often I laugh at bitter sarcasm so bonus kudos to you!

[Necrotron]

That little write-up is pretty funny.

[Deuterium_Dawn]

www.youtube.com/watch