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PC Users: How often do you find yourself restarting DA:O due to the memory leak?


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#76
Dimarcus

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every 15min

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Foufoug

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Depend 30min to 1hours soemtime 2hours :/



my specs :



Nvidia gforce gtx260

motherboard P5QL-E

Intel core 2 quad Q9400 @2.66ghz (4 cpus)

4 giga ram

windows xp sp3

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Matthew Young CT

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basically never, though i do exit to use the toolset kinda often. before i got the toolset i would leave it open all day though and didnt notice anything really. occasional long load times but they werent consistent so



at least DA restarts really really fast compared to most games these days.

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DarthMuffin wrote...

I never do. I think the game has only crashed about 3 times so far, which is a pretty good score compared to a few other games I've played.


same here Image IPB

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CptLin

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8 hours.



What I've found is it's not the game time, but the number of scene changes that contributes to the problem.

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Rayne Myria Solo

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Fairly sure by the way, RAM does seem to matter. For the record, I'm running Win7 RC 7100 64-bit (yes, I have retail..I'm just procrastinating on installing it :P) and have 4GB of RAM (DDR2 800) with a 720 Black Edition Tri Core 2.8Ghz AMD CPU. Originally when I'd installed DA I was running without a Pagefile (I'd ben running that way for about a week or so, after disabling it for a cloning operation I'd undertaken, and simply forgotten to re-enable it, and none of the other games I was running needed it). As soon as I started DA and was installing DLC, Windows warned me that Virtual Memory was too low to support the application and it needed to close it. Realizing I'd had no page file, I re-enabled it, but set it to the minimum (16MB I think) and allowed it to grow as needed. For the first hour or two it ramped up to about 800MB and stayed fairly consistant (for about a solid week all I did was play DAO really, so not much else was clogging it besides mail and web browsing). I think it's something to do with Persistant Gore and larger areas, I honestly believe the game stores the "Gore" and "Corpse/Bones" Data as long as it's been running, even though it should cache it away when that area is unloaded, and pull it back later, I don't believe it does. Even though gore "cleans up" I think the game "remembers" where it was, and tracks it until it's rebooted. With persistant gore turned OFF, my page file never grew much above 800MB-1GB for 3-6 hours. Over the same period with gore enabled (I deleted and re-created the page file to the same base level and of course rebooted the PC). It grew to about 3.5-4GB in the same time period, largely traveling the same areas. By the time I got into orzammar and the deep roads, it was almost a 6GB page file, and I had to reboot the game every hour or so. I wonder it if has anything to do with it, or if it's just anicdotal?

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Yard Waste

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Whenever my loads/map transitions take a long time--it's time to restart the game and like magic--the exact same transitions loads much faster.

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jameswhite1969

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If I do not reboot the game after 10-15 minutes then the lag starts to hit and If a load screen hits it may take 5-10 minutes for the load screen.
I love and hate this game.

My system:
Win 7 64bit, AMD 4x 9500 CPU, MSI K9A2 CF Motherboard, 4GB RAM, ATI 4870 512MB Video, WD VelociRaptor 300GB nice and fast HDD.

Modifié par jameswhite1969, 07 décembre 2009 - 01:11 .


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Ardikus wrote...

Zellarina wrote...

It was every 30 to 60 minutes depending on how many area transitions I went through and how willing I was to sit there while an area took a while to load. But I also applied that fix for the AMD Phenom and haven't had to restart since then.


What is this fix you speak of? I have an AMD Phenom and I'd like to be able to play without restarting every 15 minutes


Here's the thread with links to the fix social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/58/index/156838

I did not have to adjust anything else in game (not turn down graphics or turn off gore). This fixed it for me.

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Xantor_Stromgate

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CptLin wrote...

8 hours.

What I've found is it's not the game time, but the number of scene changes that contributes to the problem.


Same here. Though, sometimes, I never have to restart. And, recently, I haven't had any problems at all ... wierd. I do know that once I updated my drivers and started using Game Booster (highly recommended), and set the CPU affinity to one for the game, that cleared up most of the problems. Now it seems to be all good until I get into ginormus battles, but that is due to the fact my PC isn't super amped. Even then, it isn't that bad!

That being stated ... WE NEED-A A PATCH-A!!!

Xan

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Ardikus

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oops bad post

Modifié par Ardikus, 07 décembre 2009 - 02:44 .


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I love the people "LOL I DONT HAVE PROBLEMS LOLS"



Then you don't have an answer to the question regarding the memory leak that effects the majority of people who own the game. Which also means, you don't have an answer.



Guess what that means?

Move on to another thread where you might be able to use the mush behind your face to write something useful.



I restart about every 45 minutes, sometimes I'll go for longer but once the load times hit about 6 minutes I'll just get frustrated enough to stop playing. I wish they would fix this because it's literally my only complaint, such an amazing game and I hate feeling like I bet my chips on the wrong horse and should have gotten this for 360.

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From the looks of this thread, it seems those who do not experience the issue have in exceess of 4GB RAM.
 Those with 4GB or less seem to see it.

 It seems to me perhaps the large amount of RAM, + Pagefile is simply masking the efffect of the memory leak.
 Even with large amounts of RAM, disabling the pagefile is a bad thing in general ... as many programs want one.

 Im thinking Rayne's post may have something here as well
 It could be centered around the pagefile,   OR possibly, in some cases, VRAM on the GPU's themselves.

  Just a thought in an effort to hopefully reduce to effect,
 Not everyone has listed the amount of RAm on thier GPU's here, so just curious ...

 Does anyone have 4GB RAm, a 1GB GPU with page file ON (2-4GB or auto), still see the problem?

 Theres no doubt the issue exists, with all who have reported it. So, until Bioware can patch it, the best we can do is attempt to isolate it, and make adjustments to hopefully minimize the effect.

Modifié par jess05, 07 décembre 2009 - 05:33 .


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Average 1-2 hours, Orz is worst.

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KirsiJF

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Towards the end game, every 20-30 minutes or so. Made the game almost unplayable since I couldn't really concentrate or immerse in the story.



But I do love the game, just going to wait for a patch/fix before starting a new game. (I hope it won't be that long a wait!)


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So far - but I am not that far in the game yet (worse, at about the start, just passed the battle where almost all the Grey Warden's got extinguished together with the king - how is that place called again?), but I've got no problems. Doesn't mean I couldn't get one though....

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every 2-3 hrs
running on laptop:
win7 home premium x64
nvidia geforce 9600m gs
4gb ram ddr2
intel core 2 duo t5800 @2.00ghz

Modifié par Kurupt87, 08 décembre 2009 - 01:27 .


#93
Black--Hand

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6GB DDR3

i7 920 @ 3.2ghz (my load temp 54C. Normal stock load temp 60-65C)

Radeon 4870x2 (my load temp 76C. Normal stock load temp 90-95C)

WIndows 7 64 bit



The memory leak seems to set in at almost random times for me, sometimes as quickly as an hour, other times I can have a long 4-5 hour session and only then it starts. Once it does start though, the load times grow exponentially. 1 sec, 5secs, 30secs, 2 minutes, 5minutes, 8 minutes, in game stuttering, restart game.

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LillithMabon

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Slow/laggy game has only happened once for me since I purchased the game a couple of weeks ago and when I discovered it was automatically logging into a server uploading screenshots, etc. I turned it off. since then I have had no problems running the game without interruption for 8-10 hours.

I am computer illiterate and have found no information on the benefits of being connected to a server. I have seen where xbox users get points and PC and PS users get other rewards of some sort, but havent found much information on those points.

Unless there is a real benefit for being logged in, I wont be and have had no problems with my game.

PS---Im not too fond of some company somewhere having access to my system and uploading/downloading things randomly without my instant knowledge.

Modifié par LillithMabon, 08 décembre 2009 - 06:42 .


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OneBadAssMother

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Reload from main menu after about 2-3 big area transitions or a whole bunch of big battles.
Reload game itself after usually about 2-3 hrs.

when I discovered it was automatically logging into a server uploading
screenshots, etc. I turned it off. since then I have had no problems
running the game without interruption for 8-10 hours.


Yes I've noticed that helped a lot.

Modifié par OneBadAssMother, 08 décembre 2009 - 06:46 .


#96
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every hour, more often in Denerim.  I think you should also include the amount of phys RAM you have, considering there might be some link to amount of RAM the game has available to it.

Modifié par Arto, 08 décembre 2009 - 07:28 .


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Yeah I usually restart every hour. Just made it a habit.

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Matthew Young CT

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LillithMabon wrote...
Unless there is a real benefit for being logged in, I wont be and have had no problems with my game.

No important benefit, nope.

PS---Im not too fond of some company somewhere having access to my system and uploading/downloading things randomly without my instant knowledge.

You can turn it off in the options. Under online I believe.

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Narrsan

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Every 2 hours. Never gives an exception.

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SHartin70

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6gig System RAM with PageFile disabled, dual boot XP and Vista64, Intel Core i7, NVidia GTX285 with 1gig of VRAM. Newest driver, 195.something. Creative XFi titanium.



After about 1 hour, the load times get unbearable .. usually more than 1 minute to load into Denerim. And conversations can take 4 or 5 seconds to start.



Ive tried with both pagefile disabled and enabled, doesnt make a difference.

My machine is a dual boot of Vista64 and XP Pro. I play games in XP 99% of the time, including DAO. I tried Vista to see if the memory leak was better since all 6gigs of RAM would be addressable, but no difference. Then I realized, DAO is a 32bit application, so the maximum addressable RAM for its process is only 2gigs anyway .... so anyone with 3+ gigs of RAM is likely to never have RAM / Pagefile issues running it.



I think the increasing load times is bad programming on the games resource management, not technically a leak, since I never crash with out of memory errors, even after playing for 5 or 6 hours straight (I hate restarting). I also notice the maximum amount of memory DAO ever seems to use is around 1gig. I imagine they have some form of resource caching mechanism, that builds up over time to some pre-determined limit, but the CPU processing required to manage that cache does not scale well.



My 2cp worth as a programmer at least.