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[BatmanPWNS]

Sergeant Dre wrote...

No, they are easily angered, four eyed, four nosed pigs....

I'll pass

Javik is disappointed in you.

[TonyTitan]

Tom Lehrer wrote...

TonyTitan wrote...

Your logic is sound...I don't disagree with that at all.

However Tarak led the Blue Suns...Humans were commanded by him.
In 'Bring down the Sky', Batarian's were out to destroy Terra Nova.

Batarian's want to be in charge....They're not a race that is willing to be led....Especially by Humans. And wasn't part of their reasoning for leaving Council space due in part from rules and regulations? Having to follow what others had established as 'guidelines'?

So yeah, they wouldn't wage war against the Alliance....but it certainly turns into a sham when they agree so easily for use of their fleet.....Their fleet being commanded by a Human.

No 'flame'.....IMO you're thinking like a Human. (Ironic...LOL!) That logic of, "Why doesn't this person like me?" or "Why can't this group like us?"

When humanity discovered their first mass relay, then started expanding rather quickly....Who got irritated? Batarian's. It's been their biggest gripe towards us since day 1. Why change that now? Batarian's WANT to lead. NOT be lead.

The leader of the whole Blue Suns is Vido Santiago a Human. Tarak only leads Omega so he still takes orders from Vido.

And reaon they left the Citadel was because the Council did not stop Humanity from aggresivly colonizing territory they claimed.

My mistake, I did forget about Vido.....However, what was it Zaeed said?  "Cheaper labor and god damn terrorists".  Or was it just the terrorist part?  Been awhile since I played ME2.  So to me, a Batarian doesn't seem the most 'logical' choice for a squad mate.  Even with the whole saving of the galaxy thing happening.

At this point, I guess we just agree to disagree.  :happy:

[Tom Lehrer]

TonyTitan wrote...

My mistake, I did forget about Vido.....However, what was it Zaeed said?  "Cheaper labor and god damn terrorists".  Or was it just the terrorist part?  Been awhile since I played ME2.  So to me, a Batarian doesn't seem the most 'logical' choice for a squad mate.  Even with the whole saving of the galaxy thing happening.

At this point, I guess we just agree to disagree.  :happy:

Garrus had a Baterian in his Archangle squad and the reason Baterians are allowed in the Blue Suns does not change the fact they still willing join and work with and for Humans. This is also not a matter of opinion eaither. You stated that all Baterians hate Humans and I have provided evidence that proves other wise.

If you said all Baterians are ugly and smell funny we could agree to disagree as that is opinion. 

Modifié par Tom Lehrer, 28 avril 2012 - 11:34 .

[Mass effect 2 forever]

Yeah that'd be great! I really liked the slightly gritty element of the Batarians n their oppostion to human colonialism. A party member who really resents Shephard would make sense. Also, it would be a chance to go to Khar-Shan (which curiosuly we can go to almost straight away. Is this what its like if you don't have Javik DLC n the Eden Prime system?). There also a sub-plot late on in the game regarding the Batarians and what happened to them which I think could easily be made into a complete story. Although I think it may have just been a nod to those who explored the star systems n read the descriptions.

[TonyTitan]

Tom Lehrer wrote...

TonyTitan wrote...

My mistake, I did forget about Vido.....However, what was it Zaeed said?  "Cheaper labor and god damn terrorists".  Or was it just the terrorist part?  Been awhile since I played ME2.  So to me, a Batarian doesn't seem the most 'logical' choice for a squad mate.  Even with the whole saving of the galaxy thing happening.

At this point, I guess we just agree to disagree.  :happy:

Garrus had a Baterian in his Archangle squad and the reason Baterians are allowed in the Blue Suns does not change the fact they still willing join and work with and for Humans. This is also not a matter of opinion eaither. You stated that all Baterians hate Humans and I have provided evidence that proves other wise.

If you said all Baterians are ugly and smell funny we could agree to disagree as that is opinion. 

Your opinion is that a Batarian would be a good squadmate......My opinion is that a Batarian wouldn't make a logical choice for one. 

Working together on a space station doesn't make them a 'good, logical' choice to work with you on saving the galaxy. 

[Mass effect 2 forever]

Well, you can play them in multiplayer and they do join you in your fight against the reapers like everyone else. The whole point would be having a tension in the relationship between Shephard and a Batarian. he knows its in his and his species interests to help Shephard but he could easily argue that Shephard is a jerk. If Shephards renegade and doesn't give a damn about what he did in Arrival then that could get potentially explosive. Even a 'good' Batarian would struggle to get along with Shep but over-coming that sort of mutual prejudice is what ME is about. Which is good since turian/krogan geth/quarian are all detached for humans; they're outsiders looking in to others problems which makes the idea that they overcome this issue less addressed. But the batarian/human hatred is well established and overcoming it would be a good angle to take.

ps I know humans n turians have a thing but that only came across as suspicion not imbued hatred. I mena in Bring Down the Sky Shephard all but sounds disgusted at seeing Batarian and immediately assumes hostility. Not to mention what he/she can do to their leader.

[Seracen]

No joke, I was hoping for interaction with the refugee from ME2 during Mordin's recruiting mission. Barring that, I definitely would like to have recruited the 2nd in command Batarian from "Bringing Down the Sky" DLC.

Also, would love to see female Batarians, female Turians too for that matter.  Female Salarians and Krogan didn't seem all that different, but they didn't really need to be.

Modifié par Seracen, 28 avril 2012 - 11:58 .

[Mass effect 2 forever]

Seracen wrote...

No joke, I was hoping for interaction with the refugee from ME2 during Mordin's recruiting mission. Barring that, I definitely would like to have recruited the 2nd in command Batarian from "Bringing Down the Sky" DLC.

Also, would love to see female Batarians, female Turians too for that matter.  Female Salarians and Krogan didn't seem all that different, but they didn't really need to be.

They show female turians in a comic. Exactly the same except smaller profile and no head-crest. Since they are birds they also don't have mammary glands.

Batarians, well, they are mammals I think so I guess they would look slightly different. Wouldn't be pretty though. Would not be pretty at all. Yikes. I suppose making a Batarian character female would be a neat way of differentiating her from regular Batarians. But if you're suggesting romancing a batarian then. Uwww, thats just nasty.    

Then again, I never thought femshep would get the option to do Garrus. I mean when the option came up on screen I had to do a double take. I mean, I think Garrus is sweet n cute n all but; hes a birdman. Still didn't stop me like.

Modifié par Mass effect 2 forever, 29 avril 2012 - 12:10 .

[Cadnoess]

Nah not interested in Batarians. Sorry

[Mass effect 2 forever]

Cadnoess wrote...

Nah not interested in Batarians. Sorry

Hey, with synthesis for ME4 we'll be able to do Geth in the next game. Ah, the power of .

[Navasha]

Nope... My Shepard doesn't like Batarians...

Probably has to do with that whole killing her parents and attempting to make her a slave when she was a kid.

[tehturian]

I'm sure Shepard has killed a A LOT of people's parents, does that make the entire human race cold blooded killers?

[BatmanPWNS]

Wrex is also used to be a gun for hire. We should kill him next!
Legion is a Geth. We should kill him next!
Turians don't like humans and started the first contact war. Lets kill Garrus next!
Javik supports slavery, has 4 eyes and is pretty racist. Lets kill him next!

Seriously, if Legin, Garrus, Wrex and Javik hadn't joined our squad, most people would talking smack about them like they do about the Batarians.

[Zubi Fett]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Wrex is also used to be a gun for hire. We should kill him next!
Legion is a Geth. We should kill him next!
Turians don't like humans and started the first contact war. Lets kill Garrus next!
Javik supports slavery, has 4 eyes and is pretty racist. Lets kill him next!

Seriously, if Legin, Garrus, Wrex and Javik hadn't joined our squad, most people would talking smack about them like they do about the Batarians.

+1

I also see serious implications on how people judge the entire species for the actions of some, is only a videogame but if they apply that logic in real life...

Modifié par Zubi Fett, 29 avril 2012 - 02:22 .

[Seracen]

Mass effect 2 forever wrote...

Seracen wrote...

No joke, I was hoping for interaction with the refugee from ME2 during Mordin's recruiting mission. Barring that, I definitely would like to have recruited the 2nd in command Batarian from "Bringing Down the Sky" DLC.

Also, would love to see female Batarians, female Turians too for that matter.  Female Salarians and Krogan didn't seem all that different, but they didn't really need to be.

They show female turians in a comic. Exactly the same except smaller profile and no head-crest. Since they are birds they also don't have mammary glands.

Batarians, well, they are mammals I think so I guess they would look slightly different. Wouldn't be pretty though. Would not be pretty at all. Yikes. I suppose making a Batarian character female would be a neat way of differentiating her from regular Batarians. But if you're suggesting romancing a batarian then. Uwww, thats just nasty.    

Then again, I never thought femshep would get the option to do Garrus. I mean when the option came up on screen I had to do a double take. I mean, I think Garrus is sweet n cute n all but; hes a birdman. Still didn't stop me like.

Hah, no.  Although, I did see an artist's rendering of a female Batarian.  It was like a train wreck, I wasn't able to look away, even if I didn't exactly like what I was seeing (2 sets of mammary glands, not conventionally attractive, but strangely mesmerizing in a way).

Kudos for the artist actually making a female Batarian that didn't immediately make me reach for the brain bleach.

[Zubi Fett]

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Modifié par Zubi Fett, 04 mai 2012 - 12:31 .

[StrawHatMoose]

TonyTitan wrote...

Batarian's hate humans.....Why do Sci-Fi stories ALWAYS have to 'turn' the Villanous race, 'good', at some point.  Star Trek with the Borg and Klingons...and even to an extent, the Romulans.  Every Sci-Fi story out there does not always have to have that, 'can't we all just get along' storyline.  Batarians were Human's enemies in ME1 and ME2....One FINAL chapter of Shepards story would not have killed the series keeping Batarians as Humankinds enemy.  Bioware can turn them 'good' towards Humans AFTER the Reapers are dealt with....A certain someone from ME1, per your decisions, shouldn't have agreed.....For all intensive purposes, ME3 began with the Batarians being wiped out from the get go....so if Shepard at the end of ME3 saves the rest of them that potentially survived, THEN let Human's and Batarian's play peace.  But after Arrival, and how quickly the Reapers wiped out the Batarian's at the start of ME3??  Batarian's should have been P*SSED, with humanity.

Comon you get the krogan and turbans to work together and the krogand absolutely hate the turians. I mean they want to rip the turians plates off with their bare hands. I mean the impending destruction of your entire race would make anyone go to drastic measures maybe even working with their enemies. And the batarians we've seen (except if you save the injured batarian in me2) are bad and they've been thrown our of the ehegmony because they are evil and te good batarians are being kept on their homeworld by their own government.

[Zubi Fett]

StrawHatMoose wrote...

TonyTitan wrote...

Batarian's hate humans.....Why do Sci-Fi stories ALWAYS have to 'turn' the Villanous race, 'good', at some point.  Star Trek with the Borg and Klingons...and even to an extent, the Romulans.  Every Sci-Fi story out there does not always have to have that, 'can't we all just get along' storyline.  Batarians were Human's enemies in ME1 and ME2....One FINAL chapter of Shepards story would not have killed the series keeping Batarians as Humankinds enemy.  Bioware can turn them 'good' towards Humans AFTER the Reapers are dealt with....A certain someone from ME1, per your decisions, shouldn't have agreed.....For all intensive purposes, ME3 began with the Batarians being wiped out from the get go....so if Shepard at the end of ME3 saves the rest of them that potentially survived, THEN let Human's and Batarian's play peace.  But after Arrival, and how quickly the Reapers wiped out the Batarian's at the start of ME3??  Batarian's should have been P*SSED, with humanity.

Comon you get the krogan and turbans to work together and the krogand absolutely hate the turians. I mean they want to rip the turians plates off with their bare hands. I mean the impending destruction of your entire race would make anyone go to drastic measures maybe even working with their enemies. And the batarians we've seen (except if you save the injured batarian in me2) are bad and they've been thrown our of the ehegmony because they are evil and te good batarians are being kept on their homeworld by their own government.

I agree in with most, ineed the Human-Batarian relations are the only ones that remain lock, Turian-Krogan, Geth-Quorian have there conlusion or some new events. And then again the governaments are the ones againts each other, this does not make every Batarian hate the humans or every Human hate the Batarians.
 I trully think this is a very reach area to explore and learn about inside the Mass Effect universe.

Modifié par Zubi Fett, 11 mai 2012 - 08:41 .

[Vicious Mello]

I've thought for quite a while that Balak should've been recruitable. Would've made sense, too.

[Getorex]

No. Why? Because that would require that I actually play the stupid game again and THAT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN.

Change the ending to something logical and THEN we'll talk about DLC squadmate. Until the end it changed, there's no point to adding or changing anything else. Seriously folks, play Deus Ex: Human Revolution or the Half Life 2 series (episode 3 is coming out later this year!) and you will at least get endings that make sense for the given game and story.

[loungeshep]

Balak or Chellick as squadmate!

[Endless Vigil]

I think it would be quite interesting to have a batarian in the squad. However there would have to be something special why (s)he was picked. Perhaps their intention was to keep an eye on Shepard leading to a possible assassination (payback for arrival) just a thought.

Modifié par Endless Vigil, 11 mai 2012 - 11:39 .

[Wuartz]

It's too bad Balak can be dead in most games. He would be interesting to have on the crew.

I really want a batarian squadmate. Would also like Grunt and Jack, but yeah.

[bennyjammin79]

Nah, not really. There's a lot more I'd like to see first.