We know a lot of fans disliked the ending and that bioware aren't changing it saying something about their artistic integrity.
Well I've had a thought regarding the romance scenes in the games.
In ME1 you had a cut scene at the end which at the best showed a side-boob of femshep/liara or ashley and a topless manshep/kaiden.
Yet Fox News made a huge fuss over it (in which all their facts were wrong and misinformed) and the result is the next game (dragon age) they toned down the cutscenes and also toned it down in Mass Effect 2 + 3.
My question is where was Bioware's Artistic Integrity then? Why didn't they stand firm about the romance scenes?
Don't get me wrong I liked the scenes I saw I'm just confused why Bioware keep using the words 'Artistic Integrity' in regards to the ending but they never tried to defend their romance scenes?
General Romance question
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NocturnalStillness
, avril 14 2012 07:35
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Posté 14 avril 2012 - 07:41
Apathy1989
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hm ME1 scenes were good, DAO scenes were incredibly cheesy. What we have in DA2, ME2 and 3 is good enough for me.
I prefer to build up to the romance anyway.
And have you see Liaras romance in ME3? oh boy.
I prefer to build up to the romance anyway.
And have you see Liaras romance in ME3? oh boy.
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Posté 14 avril 2012 - 07:47
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Apathy1989 wrote...
hm ME1 scenes were good, DAO scenes were incredibly cheesy. What we have in DA2, ME2 and 3 is good enough for me.
I prefer to build up to the romance anyway.
And have you see Liaras romance in ME3? oh boy.
Except Shepard's still clothed(of either gender) Is there some new rule that says you can show nude 99% female aliens but not 100% female/male humans? Blue T&A is still T&A
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Posté 14 avril 2012 - 07:52
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There's obviously a difference between fans and news casters/disgruntled parents when it comes to complaining.
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Posté 14 avril 2012 - 07:59
NocturnalStillness
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I've romanced Ashley, Tali and Miranda. Intend to play through the others at some point.
Just thought it was odd that they used "artist integrity" in regards to the ending but gave in to Fox in regards of the ending even though Fox was talking out its backside,
Just thought it was odd that they used "artist integrity" in regards to the ending but gave in to Fox in regards of the ending even though Fox was talking out its backside,
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Posté 14 avril 2012 - 08:10
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Nightwriter wrote...
Ah yes, "fans."
Seriously though, you don't think there is a general concensious between a news corperation and a group of gamers? Probably used the wrong word but I think you get the idea.
If you picked up 1,000 random people off the street and asked them, "Who is more in the right, a news company or video gamers?" What do you think they'll go with? Of course, random is random and things will never turn out how you exactly expect them but for the sake of this argument, I'm going to say they'll side with any news corp over people labeled video gamers. Hell, some people will believe The Onion if they've never seen it before.
Really though, if BioWare for whatever reason had a steamy sex scene in ME3 that was pretty intense and people outside of the game wanted to change it, there would be a huge difference between the responce to that and what we had with people wanting the ending to change.
Of course this brings up a difference of say, the ending to a three game series and a single scene but that's not the focus right now.
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Posté 14 avril 2012 - 08:29
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TheProfessor234 wrote...
Nightwriter wrote...
Ah yes, "fans."
Seriously though, you don't think there is a general concensious between a news corperation and a group of gamers? Probably used the wrong word but I think you get the idea.
If you picked up 1,000 random people off the street and asked them, "Who is more in the right, a news company or video gamers?" What do you think they'll go with? Of course, random is random and things will never turn out how you exactly expect them but for the sake of this argument, I'm going to say they'll side with any news corp over people labeled video gamers. Hell, some people will believe The Onion if they've never seen it before.
Really though, if BioWare for whatever reason had a steamy sex scene in ME3 that was pretty intense and people outside of the game wanted to change it, there would be a huge difference between the responce to that and what we had with people wanting the ending to change.
Of course this brings up a difference of say, the ending to a three game series and a single scene but that's not the focus right now.
That may be true I just find it curious that Bioware used the word "Artist Integrity" when they changed another scene because of an outside source.
You didn't see much in ME1 yet Fox complained, if Artistic Integrity was important why not respond by standing firm against them and pointing out all the incorrect facts Fox were claiming as fact?
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Posté 14 avril 2012 - 09:41
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A black screen with Miranda is so disappointing. And no scene with Jack is worst.
Where is BW integrity to give equal treatment to all the romances?
Where is BW integrity to give equal treatment to all the romances?
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Posté 14 avril 2012 - 09:48
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Apathy1989 wrote...
hm ME1 scenes were good, DAO scenes were incredibly cheesy. What we have in DA2, ME2 and 3 is good enough for me.
I prefer to build up to the romance anyway.
And have you see Liaras romance in ME3? oh boy.
DAO sex scenes being cheesy was an understatement
when i first saw the zevran gay sex scene(with a male dwarf at that) I was laughing so hard I was crying the music plus the underwear plus the expresions and animations LOL
A black screen with Miranda is so disappointing. And no scene with Jack is worst.
Where is BW integrity to give equal treatment to all the romances?
Thane and Jacob had it even worse... Thane's death while a good scene was hardly any different from the friendship scene and you dont even get the achievement with him
and Jacob well yeah...
Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 14 avril 2012 - 09:49 .
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Posté 14 avril 2012 - 09:51
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It's exactly as how TheProfessor234 says it is. Sex scenes are something anyone can take an interest/be offended by, and thus something BioWare/EA can get in trouble (legal wise) for, it's not something that limited to those within the franchise (namely, the fans).
But game endings, you do have to be within the franchise to take notice. People outside of it don't care. BioWare/EA can't get in trouble for a bad ending. No one can. It can get a lot of people angry and ruin a franchise, but they can't get into any legal trouble for it. I don't know what Fox said about the sex scenes or whatever, but I imagine if they did say something with the same level of interest in regards to the endings, BioWare would still stick by their endings.
But game endings, you do have to be within the franchise to take notice. People outside of it don't care. BioWare/EA can't get in trouble for a bad ending. No one can. It can get a lot of people angry and ruin a franchise, but they can't get into any legal trouble for it. I don't know what Fox said about the sex scenes or whatever, but I imagine if they did say something with the same level of interest in regards to the endings, BioWare would still stick by their endings.
