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[Chugster]

Apart from the Valiant, which is awesome in MP as well as SP, do any of you use the N7 guns much in SP?

Ive tried using the Valkyrie,, Eagle, Hurricane and the Crusader but always replace them...are they just meant to be good starter weapons or what?

[BlackwindTheCommander]

I don't even think they're good starting weapons. They're all really heavy without much gain.

[Cuddlezarro]

I use the eagle as my side ar and crusader on my sentinel

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 14 avril 2012 - 09:50 .

[JaegerBane]

The N7 Hurricane is one of the better SMGs (and the best at short range, very high DPS for an SMG). Definitely my choice.

The rest are a bit meh. The Eagle is pretty good once you recognise that its an assault rifle and should be used as such, not as a heavy pistol.

Modifié par JaegerBane, 14 avril 2012 - 10:03 .

[Chugster]

JaegerBane wrote...

The N7 Hurricane is one of the better SMGs (and the best at short range, very high DPS for an SMG). Definitely my choice.

really? I found the recoil made it awful...if i want to burst fire ill use a Vindicator, i found the Tempest crosshairs stay on target all day long

[pingupower]

They are good starting weapons. The smg has too much recoil however.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

The hurricane and valiant are both pretty solid on a soldier in hardcore difficulty.

[dipdunk]

Chugster wrote...

JaegerBane wrote...

The N7 Hurricane is one of the better SMGs (and the best at short range, very high DPS for an SMG). Definitely my choice.

really? I found the recoil made it awful...if i want to burst fire ill use a Vindicator, i found the Tempest crosshairs stay on target all day long

Recoil does suck, sure, but your squadmates don't seem to have a problem with it. (they don't have to worry about running out of ammo for it, either.)

It's kind of like the Incisor in ME2: it sucks when Shep uses it, but it owns when a squaddie uses it.

Modifié par dipdunk, 14 avril 2012 - 10:24 .

[Lopez23]

I always use he valkarie or on my soldier with the Crusader i dont like with the crusader how the controller sensitivity makes it swing past what im aiming at and its at the lowest

[DOYOURLABS]

I use the crusader with my vanguard, and I usually give my squad the SMGs

[All-a-Mort]

N7 Hurricane is extremely effective, but at point-blank range. Yes the recoil is ridiculous, but you want to be using it at little more than knife range. For anyone who dislikes shotguns for CQC then Hurricane is a good option.
Crusader I've never used (seriously why would I want a hugely heavy shotgun that fires only 1 straight (no spread) shot?) and Valkyrie is sadly not worth it either. I'm sure it is usable (if again too heavy for the impact compared to the Vindicator) but it just isn't enough fun. Pity really, as I really like the model design pre-launch.

[JXS nWp]

In SP i used the N7 Valkyrie quite a bit until I got the M-76 Revenant (my favorite assault rifle).
I found it quite effective and comparable to how I used the M-96 Mattock (another favorite).

The main difference between them is the range one uses them at.
The Valkyrie is most effective at close to mid range due to its 2 round burst, which is quite useful when dealing with enemies at close range but not so much when they are far. The Mattock, due to its high accuracy excels at mid to far range. However being semi automatic, it suffers at close range especially when you are being rushed by multiple enemies (for example, husks if they swarm you).

For a lot of my sp campaign I only used the N7 Valkyrie and Valiant as the soldier class. Because of the Valkyrie's weight I wouldn't recommend it for someone who likes to use there class powers frequently.

Modifié par JXS nWp, 14 avril 2012 - 11:49 .

[Praetor Knight]

I've use the Eagle the most for both Shep and the squad, I like how it fires and the number of available rounds it has.

The Hurricane often stays on the Squad for now. It has too much recoil for my taste on Shepard, but it's solid compared to the rest of the SMG's. I might go to the Hornet and stick with it for both Shep and the Squad in the future though, I'm not sure yet.

And I really haven't used the Valiant or Crusader much, the Crusader is interesting firing a single slug, but it's a bit too heavy. Then I wasn't a fan of how heavy the Valkyrie is, so I didn't use it for long either. But as a Tanking Sentinel weapon weight doesn't matter, so I'm gonna try the three of them more in an NG+ eventually.

[incinerator950]

I occasionally try the Hurricane or Eagle. However, my current level 60 Vanguard uses a Chakram X, Hornet X, and Disciple X. I found the Hornet more enjoyable, and controllable.

[Doriath]

dipdunk wrote...

Recoil does suck, sure, but your squadmates don't seem to have a problem with it. (they don't have to worry about running out of ammo for it, either.)

It's kind of like the Incisor in ME2: it sucks when Shep uses it, but it owns when a squaddie uses it.

Yep the Hurricane is great for squadmates. The Tempest is nearly as good for them though and is at least a more viable SMG for most players using one than the Hurricane would be (assuming you would only upgrade one SMG in your playthrough). Point blank range is its strong suit, but the Hurricane is barely controllable at over 5 ft for me personally...

I have used the Valkyrie on a Soldier and I like it a lot. Its is way too heavy for what it does, but if you have a class that can handle the weight limitations it will put on you, its still a good assault rifle. The Eagle is a good heavy pistol as well depending on what build you use. The tactical clak + marksman Infiltrator can get real nice use out of it, more so than any other heavy pistol in my opinion.

[Eragondragonrider]

The N7 Crusader is a shotgun sniper rifle and has some great penitration power. I like the 3 shot simi-auto fire from the N7 Valkyrie on my soldier, don't use the rest of the weapons, don't use the rest of the weapons personally but put them on squadies.

[Delta_V2]

Valiant is undeniably awesome.

Hurricane is a good backup weapon for snipers due to its insane dps at close range. The recoil is atrocious, but if you're at a range where muzzle climb is an issue, why aren't you using your sniper?

The Valkyrie is a moderately more effective Vindicator. The problem is the extra performance isn't really worth the weight. I still use it once in a while since Insanity is easy enough that I don't have to worry about min/maxing, and it is just a damn cool gun. Running around with matching armor and rifle just feels right.

I find the Eagle and Crusader useless.

[JaegerBane]

dipdunk wrote...

Chugster wrote...

JaegerBane wrote...

The N7 Hurricane is one of the better SMGs (and the best at short range, very high DPS for an SMG). Definitely my choice.

really? I found the recoil made it awful...if i want to burst fire ill use a Vindicator, i found the Tempest crosshairs stay on target all day long

Recoil does suck, sure, but your squadmates don't seem to have a problem with it. (they don't have to worry about running out of ammo for it, either.)

It's kind of like the Incisor in ME2: it sucks when Shep uses it, but it owns when a squaddie uses it.

Not exactly. The Hurricane is easily the best SMG for your squaddies, true, but dealing with the recoil on shepard is a matter of practice. In cover it does enough damage per shot to make for a good burst weapon at medium to short range, and when being used out of cover, so long as you don't zoom, at short to point-blank range its DPS is wicked for its weight, great for agressive characters.

The biggest thing I can think of with regard to using the Hurricane is do not zoom and fire while out of cover. Hip-shooting on this thing appears to be *more* accurate than aiming as the recoil effects you less.

Modifié par JaegerBane, 15 avril 2012 - 09:38 .

[Tup3x]

On Shepard, I use only Valiant and not the rest. They seems to work pretty nicely on squadmates, though.

Modifié par Tup3xi, 15 avril 2012 - 09:29 .

[Zubi Fett]

I actually use most of them, i always did bring the N7 Sniper and Pistol, i use the shotgun few times and a carry the SMG many times.

Perhaps i did it because they where the weapons i start and learn to use better from a very early beginning.

I was also more "inclined" to use them because they where part of the Collectors Edition i pay for.

[JaegerBane]

Zubi Fett wrote...

I actually use most of them, i always did bring the N7 Sniper and Pistol, i use the shotgun few times and a carry the SMG many times.

Perhaps i did it because they where the weapons i start and learn to use better from a very early beginning.

That's partially the reason I used them so much, too. In comparison to your starting weapons they're vastly superior (except, perhaps, the shotgun) and hence, by the time you get new hardware, you know precisely how they work and how to get the best out of them.

[mybudgee]

I cannot use the Tempest anymore...it sounds like its making me waffle fries..

[Captain_Obvious_au]

The problem with the Valkyrie, and the Argus, is that they're about twice as heavy as they should be for some reason. It's kinda like Bioware made them against their wishes, so they gave them stats that discourages people using them.

As a PC user all I did then was gave the N7 Valkyrie the weight of the M-15 Vindicator, and the M-55 I gave the weight of the M-96 Mattock. Makes more sense in terms of lore, plus makes them viable weapons.

[Captain Crash]

The recoil on the Hurricane is insane, but its actually a really fun gun I think.

[JaegerBane]

Captain_Obvious_au wrote...

The problem with the Valkyrie, and the Argus, is that they're about twice as heavy as they should be for some reason. It's kinda like Bioware made them against their wishes, so they gave them stats that discourages people using them.

Yeah - for some reason they share weights with the sky-high DPS assault rifles like the Particle Rifle and the Revenant, but don't really do much more than the Vindicator. It really feels like they were supposed to be little more than 'filler' weapons rather than stuff the player was actually supposed to use.

As a PC user all I did then was gave the N7 Valkyrie the weight of the M-15 Vindicator, and the M-55 I gave the weight of the M-96 Mattock. Makes more sense in terms of lore, plus makes them viable weapons.

As a PC player I modded out the weight mechanic altogether. The Valkyrie and Argus ARs were hardly the only weapons in the game that had silly weight levels, and it was far less work than having to rebalance every weapon.