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[Lesbian Wood Elf]

As a Vanguard, I used the Wraith X, Paladin X, Vindicator X, and Lokust X. Once I upgraded them all, I had 170% cooldown bonus. It made insanity look like baby easy coward difficulty.

[NYG1991]

I use the Valkyrie and valiant all the time. Crusader is nice but can't justify the weight

[All-a-Mort]

Rudy Lis wrote...


It behaves like it not anti-materiel rifle, but like anti-tank rifle. You know, Lahti L-39, that sort of thing. I don't remember being able to do one shot-two kills with Widow/Javeling, but I did that regularly with Paladin. Unless someone died of heart attack or friendly (enemyly?) fire, of course - since teammates were "incapacitated".

Ha ha, isn't that a line from Garrus in-game? Asked about whether it was true he managed to kill 3 mercs in one shot as Archangel and he says nah two, the third had a heart attack.

I've managed to off 2 in one shot before a few times with both BW and Valiant (scored a double headshot last night on the Cerberus Scientists side mission).

[Rudy Lis]

All-a-Mort wrote...

Ha ha, isn't that a line from Garrus in-game? Asked about whether it was true he managed to kill 3 mercs in one shot as Archangel and he says nah two, the third had a heart attack.

Yeah, of course, that's from Garrus. One of few FTW moments from FTW character.

All-a-Mort wrote...

I've managed to off 2 in one shot before a few times with both BW and Valiant (scored a double headshot last night on the Cerberus Scientists side mission).

Well, irony is that in my case those two were guardians. With shields and apparently full health. And I even didn't aimed at slot, just in head area of the shield itself (I tested weapon performance). <had that look after that shot. AP rounds mod to squad/30% of ammo/penetration, plus AP mod and, IIRC clip on Paladin.

[Zamnil Blackaxe]

I liked using the N7 Crusader on my Vanguard also the N7 Eagle is pretty nice, decent damage large(for a pistol) capacity and a nice rate of fire. Someone earlier in this thread said it's essentially an assault rifle and should be used as such, I find I agree with that sentiment.

[All-a-Mort]

Rudy Lis wrote...

All-a-Mort wrote...

Ha ha, isn't that a line from Garrus in-game? Asked about whether it was true he managed to kill 3 mercs in one shot as Archangel and he says nah two, the third had a heart attack.

Yeah, of course, that's from Garrus. One of few FTW moments from FTW character.

Well that and his worry about an arranged marriage with Urdnot Bakara...that was funny too. 

Rudy Lis wrote... 
Well, irony is that in my case those two were guardians. With shields and apparently full health. And I even didn't aimed at slot, just in head area of the shield itself (I tested weapon performance). <had that look after that shot. AP rounds mod to squad/30% of ammo/penetration, plus AP mod and, IIRC clip on Paladin.

Hmm in that case re: Paladin, to quote dear Garrus again 'Why don't I have one of those?'. I need to find moar monies in the remainder of my playthrough

[Rudy Lis]

All-a-Mort wrote...

Well that and his worry about an arranged marriage with Urdnot Bakara...that was funny too. 

Garrus is full of win. I like Garrus, but seeing him shine makes rest of already dull game even more dull.

All-a-Mort wrote...

Hmm in that case re: Paladin, to quote dear Garrus again 'Why don't I have one of those?'. I need to find moar monies in the remainder of my playthrough

Heh. In my first playthrough I choose BW. For second, after I compared BW and Valiant, I decided to spent money on something else and choose Wraith. Wasn't that bad gun, but I sticked to Crusader. So I reloaded and choose Paladin. After very first shot I "get the message" - I felt like Tackleberry from Police Academy. IMHO ingame "damage" bars has little to do with reality - by bars Carnifex with barres is more powerful than Paladin, but I never was able to squeeze that level of performance out of Carnifex. Maybe it's just "D20", I don't know, but Paladin is freaking Awesome and my primary weapon to buy.

[sigmaphi]

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Modifié par sigmaphi, 16 avril 2012 - 12:13 .

[Athenau]

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[Brother Takka]

Chugster wrote...

Apart from the Valiant, which is awesome in MP as well as SP, do any of you use the N7 guns much in SP?

Ive tried using the Valkyrie,, Eagle, Hurricane and the Crusader but always replace them...are they just meant to be good starter weapons or what?

I use them all. they own once you get them to X

[Nooneyouknow13]

Athenau wrote...

The Hurricane consumes two ammo per shot, so the effective magazine size is 20 to the Hornet's 24. The Hornet has a slight refire delay, but that's compensated for by the extremely high ROF for a burst (1000 RPM to the Hurricane's 600). All said and done the Hornet has an effective ROF (discounting reloads) of ~11.1 rounds per second to the Hurricane's 10.

I honestly wonder if this is a bug. I thought at first it was simply a two round burst, but as you say, there is only one impact event.

[Meshaber]

The Valkyrie was an absolute monster last time I tried it.

[Jestina]

The valkyrie is the same as a vindicator pretty much, except that it weighs twice as a much. The weights in this game are really ridiculous.

[Unfair_Banana]

I use that shotgun on my Vanguard, simply because it doubles as a sniper rifle

[DJ CAVE SLAVE]

I give squadmates the Hurricane. Other than that, no I don't use them.

[JaegerBane]

Athenau wrote...

Ok,I just did a quick test. The Hurricane is definitely not doing double damage per shot. There's one impact effect, and the damage is consistent with the listed value. The ROF also appears to be identical to the Phaeston, which fires at the same 600 RPM.

So while the Hurricane does very high dps, I stand by my assessment of it vs the Hornet.

It still doesn't sound right. I can't imagine why it would:

Use 2 rounds per shot but act like it fired a single round
~and~
Be the third-slowest firing full auto weapon in ME without any clues in its damage or firing rate.

You say there was *one* impact event per round... would it be possible if it were 'firing' two shots at once that those hypothetical two shots would be represented as a single round in game, thus explaining its relatively high damage per shot for an SMG? According to the stats, what kind of weapons does it share damage per shot with?

Maybe I'm just banging on about nothing - I just can't shake the feeling that this is the GPS situation all over again, when people were adamantly telling me it had an rpm of 200+ (thus making it the fastest firing shotgun and giving it roughly the same rate of fire as the viper) despite this being patently impossible to acheive.

[Athenau]

The damage per shot was comparable to the Hornet in my test, not twice the damage which is what you'd expect if it were actually firing two shots at once.

The Hurricane did get massively buffed in MP though, there it does ~100 damage per shot at level X making it the highest DPS weapon in the game outside of a charged particle rifle. But in SP the Hornet is just better AFAICT.

[profis]

No, I use Valiant only

[aj2070]

My infiltrator Shepard used the Eagle. I started with the Valiant and switched to and fully (level 5) upgraded the Raptor for sniping. I went back and forth between the Hurricane and Locust for SMGs.

[Xyrm]

Hurricane = #1 squad weapon. They are insanely accurate with it, and because of it's fire rate and damage per shot it actually does a great job killing.  Slap on some squad cryo ammo, and you have great crowd control for higher difficulties.

Modifié par Xyrm, 18 avril 2012 - 07:58 .

[JaegerBane]

aj2070 wrote...

My infiltrator Shepard used the Eagle. I started with the Valiant and switched to and fully (level 5) upgraded the Raptor for sniping. I went back and forth between the Hurricane and Locust for SMGs.

The Locust is just a plain awful weapon. It's wonderfully accurate but, much like the Viper, they're battered its damage potential. I couldn't see the point behind using it as while the accuracy meant you could land all the shots you wanted, I often needed multiple clips to bring down basic troops. Just no point in that.

[PlatonicWaffles]

Hurricane for my squadmates who use SMGs.
That's about it.

[KevTheGamer]

The only one I use is the crusader shot gun. I don't like any of the others the valkharye is ok

[thegamefreek78648]

Yes

[Elessar79]

What they should've done is given more types of weapons and armor that's Spectre class only. For starters, the game doesn't even give you Spectre armor, which is ridiculous, and there's only 3 weapons you can get that's Spectre class and they're lousy!