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[christrek1982]

wow a lot of people are going to be disappointed with this DLC I can't see how they can ret-con the whole ending with CGI and dialog

[TransientNomad]

N7Gold wrote...

If this so-called "clarification" DLC sweetens ME3's endings, are you going to change your feelings about BioWare, or are you still going to look at them with distrust or suspicion?

I'll still look at them with suspicion, and I might not even follow the next Mass Effect trilogy at all. I am not going to buy a game from a developer who burns their own fans.

Same here.  Even if the Extended Cut is all I am hoping against hope it is, I can't ever look at Bioware the same.  If the extended cut is good, I may pick up their future products, but I will never pre-order from them or anyone else.  If its bad, then I hope the fans that stick around get as much enjoyment from their products I have for the last ten years, but for me the shadow of the entire debacle will always stain their once pristine name.

[N7Gold]

christrek1982 wrote...

N7Gold wrote...

If this so-called "clarification" DLC sweetens ME3's endings, are you going to change your feelings about BioWare, or are you still going to look at them with distrust or suspicion?

I'll still look at them with suspicion, and I might not even follow the next Mass Effect trilogy at all. I am not going to buy a game from a developer who burns their own fans.

what do you mean by sweaten the ending it what way?

If the DLC show us how our actions, effective military strength and war assets turn the tide against the Reapers and whether Shepard is all right (for those who chose control or synthesis)

[j78]

I’m hoping they‘ll surprise us or at the very least do something that will make the ending tolerable .

[indyracing]

N7Gold wrote...

If this so-called "clarification" DLC sweetens ME3's endings, are you going to change your feelings about BioWare, or are you still going to look at them with distrust or suspicion?

Well, having just finished the single player about 30 minutes ago, with the only thing I knew ahead of time was that a lot of people were unhappy with the ending, and having read the letter to the fans from the doctors, oh, and hearing that the From Ashes DLC was VERY central to the story, and downloading it (and agreeing - that should NEVER have been DLC), I feel ok saying that nothing could have prepared me for how awful the story of Mass Effect ends.

That was beyond bad.

I don't pay much attention to pre-release trailers or press announcements, but I will be paying attention to whether or not Casey Hudson or Marc Walters are involved with any future content/games from Bioware.

And..I won't be paying for any DLC for the single player of ME3 (multiplayer is incredibly fun, other than the RNG rewards from the packs, so I can't rule out paying for anything there, assuming I'm still playing it when anything comes out) as I don't see the point - Shepard is dead, the story is done.

If the expanded exposition of the end is free, of course I'll play it, but after ME 3 and also TOR (an MMO designed for 5 years ago), I'll most definitely scrutinize any future purchases from Bioware.

[-Skorpious-]

If they improve ME3's ending to the point where I can play the trilogy without getting a sickening sensation in my gut, then they will have successfully redeemed ME3 in my eyes and I can start playing again.

But that is pretty much about it. I forgave Bioware for releasing the relatively sub-par DA2, and I can forgive them for ME3 is the extended cut addresses several key issues I have with the game, but I cannot forgive the blatant lying and unsympathetic responses Bioware offered to the community as a whole.

It will take a hell of a lot more than a DLC to mend my issues with Bioware.

[GreyLycanTrope]

I'll certainly be taking their promises with a grain of salt, and pre-orders are unlikely from me in the future. But I'm holding out hope that they'll learn from and somehow manage to make up for this. I really do love Bioware and the work they've done up to this point but I guess we'll see what happens.

[EricHVela]

There is no doubt in my mind that BW's reputation is taking a significant hit, but EA's reputation is solid (as it wasn't a good one already).

I'm actually a little sad to say that EA's isn't popular. A long time ago when they had a cube, sphere and tetrahedron as their logo, their stuff wasn't bad. I'm not sure if I'm sad because of what they became or if I'm sad because I'm that old.

[leapingmonkeys]

Problem is that Bioware/EA demonstrated a complete disdain for their customer base in the aftermath of ME3. I generally do not do business with companies that disregard their customer's requirements.

[Tony208]

I'll go with how I treat a lot of other companies, rent first or buy used.

If it's up to snuff and I like it enough, purchase.

Modifié par Tony208, 15 avril 2012 - 03:20 .

[Karolus_V]

N7Gold wrote...

If this so-called "clarification" DLC sweetens ME3's endings, are you going to change your feelings about BioWare, or are you still going to look at them with distrust or suspicion?

I'll still look at them with suspicion, and I might not even follow the next Mass Effect trilogy at all. I am not going to buy a game from a developer who burns their own fans.

I dont want sweet, but a good ending/endings, with some closure, and some other emotion than "WTF is this" to realize it was bad , simply. And I want to see the war assets doing somw work. When you have to activate the thanix misiles, i was hoping for example some Geth to drop (if you save them or them and the quarians) to get those nasty banshees and all the damn horde off you, so you can launch the misiles(That is one example).


I went into suspicion mode automatically when EA bought them.

[N7Gold]

indyracing wrote...

N7Gold wrote...

If this so-called "clarification" DLC sweetens ME3's endings, are you going to change your feelings about BioWare, or are you still going to look at them with distrust or suspicion?

I don't pay much attention to pre-release trailers or press announcements, but I will be paying attention to whether or not Casey Hudson or Marc Walters are involved with any future content/games from Bioware.

Be glad you didn't pay any attention to the pre-release interviews and press announcements, otherwise it'll send your anger to a boiling point. It took me 2 weeks after beating ME3 and posting it all on Youtube to cool down.

[MrRag]

BioWare is capable of writing good endings, I haven't given up hope yet. But extending the current endings won't bring it, since you can't build on something anticlimatic like the starchild idea. The game lost its focus, we want to fight the reapers and defeat Harbinger.

Players need that sense of accomplishment. Clearly, there's none at this point.

[sw04ca]

liggy002 wrote...
Well, some people would go pirate thier games online if they ended up screwing over the fans. SOME people, not me of course.

Wrong.  Those people would pirate the game online no matter what.

Pirates don't pirate because they're angry; they don't have a social agenda.  Pirates pirate because they don't care about anything but themselves.

[FlamingBoy]

N7Gold wrote...

If this so-called "clarification" DLC sweetens ME3's endings, are you going to change your feelings about BioWare, or are you still going to look at them with distrust or suspicion?

I'll still look at them with suspicion, and I might not even follow the next Mass Effect trilogy at all. I am not going to buy a game from a developer who burns their own fans.

its a very good question,
no the dlc is not enough to completely fix the damage that has been done even if the dlc is amazing. simply put the game was so badly rushed that it hurts

think of it this way there will never be another me3, they had there shot and they blew it, its not like they are going to redo it. its sad really

[Lyrandori]

If Casey Hudson and/or Mac Walters work on any future Mass Effect projects, then I won't bother. It is time to find new writers and project leaders as far as Mass Effect is concerned. I'm not sure if other writers would automatically do a better job, maybe, maybe not, but I sure as heck don't want to buy a game with Casey's or Mac's name on it.

[frylock23]

Imagine going to your favorite restaurant and coming home one day with a healthy case of e. coli. Yeah, it's your favorite restaurant; yeah, they might bend over backwards to make amends because it was a terrible accident. But, at the end of the day, you can never go back there without the knowledge in the back of your head that you got e. coli from something you ate there.

That's kinda how I feel about this. Maybe this is an anomaly, and maybe BioWare will manage to pull off a miracle fix, but at the end of the day, it's going to be really hard for me to buy anything else from them without remembering the horror of the original ME3 endings.

[DWH1982]

I'm not sure I'll bother with the Extended Cut DLC. It doesn't change the ending. It just explains it. I already feel like I more or less understand the endings, though. It's not the lack of clarity that bothers me. It's the fact that I don't like them. They don't feel like Mass Effect.

I guess a lot of people would be okay with a "sad" ending if only the plot holes weren't there. I'm very unapologetic about the fact that I wanted a happy ending for the series - where Shepard continues to live and can actually have time with his love interest without any of his work (quarians/geth especially) being undone. Even if it would have been difficult to acheive without putting in a great deal of hard work, I wanted it to be there. Mass Effect has always had triumphant endings, no matter how bleak things seemed during the game. The endings that we had available did not seem like Mass Effect.

I feel rather disenchanted with the franchise now, to the point where I'm not sure I can even bring myself to play ME1 and 2, let alone do another playthrough of 3 or bother with any DLC. As far as I'm concerned, the "real" ending to ME3 involves my Shepard and Ash living in the house he owns on Intai'sei. That's the image I want to keep in my mind as I move away from the franchise, so if I do re-play ME3, I might very well stop playing before the last few minutes of the game.

[FRancium]

at least they listened
which is a lot better than most other reactions

[2484Stryker]

N7Gold wrote...

If this so-called "clarification" DLC sweetens ME3's endings, are you going to change your feelings about BioWare, or are you still going to look at them with distrust or suspicion?

I'll still look at them with suspicion, and I might not even follow the next Mass Effect trilogy at all. I am not going to buy a game from a developer who burns their own fans.

It won't change my opinion of BioWare because I don't want a "clarification" DLC.  You can't fix a broken ending by clarifying it unless you also fix the things that are wrong with it.

To me, unless BioWare either removes or changes the role of the Catalyst, in addition to adding clarification, then I won't change my mind about them at all.

[shepskisaac]

Not that I will "trust" them more, but considering how big of a drama the endings caused,it is only natural that they will be 10x times more careful in future so I don't expect another "BW endings disappointment" anytime soon

[scott1118]

If the DLC is free, it's fair to say they realised they rushed and screwed up, if the DLC is something you need to pay for, they may see how much money they can get from it and think they can do it in the future.
If the DLC costs, i will go watch it for free on youtube. All endings. Then be done with bioware and EA and would only buy a game after its released and i have seen fourm reviews, not biased reviews like the one ME3 got from IGN

Modifié par scott1118, 15 avril 2012 - 04:18 .

[goose2989]

I will be extremely skeptical. But I am willing to forgive and forget. EA is at as much fault, anyways