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[Drummernate]

It stomps Silver when you have a barrel and pierce mod.... but without decent mods it is pretty meh.

[Avalon Aurora]

Phaeston is just about the worst weapon you can use on Turian soldier. It's so accurate on it's own it doesn't really take advantage of marksman. You want to use something that normally has terrible accuracy and recoil, but awesome damage and/or firing rate, like the Hurricane, with turian soldier.

A high level Phaeston is a good alternative in similar situations where you'd use an Avenger, I think it has slightly better DPS than Avenger, but is a bit heavier, so probably not as good for power spammers.

[TianKY]

Steelgrave wrote...

vGriMz wrote...

I have it at X but it's still not that good and you'd be better off using a different Assault Rifle.

Revenant X = best damn gun in the game! Carnifex is nice but the Revenant is more fun.

I concur.

[Drummernate]

Avalon Aurora wrote...

Phaeston is just about the worst weapon you can use on Turian soldier.

Vindicator would like a word with you...

It gains like no bonus from marksman at all, has bad recoil without a stability mod, and reverse recoil with one...

[Avalon Aurora]

Drummernate wrote...

Avalon Aurora wrote...

Phaeston is just about the worst weapon you can use on Turian soldier.

Vindicator would like a word with you...

It gains like no bonus from marksman at all, has bad recoil without a stability mod, and reverse recoil with one...

I wasn't saying it was the absolute worst. I'll admit the Vindicator can be lol worthy in some situations.

[vonSlash]

SeijiTataki wrote...
the Revenant requires stability/Turians to properly combat recoil, and is also questionably heavy for its output.

Nothing in the above quote is true.

[joker_jack]

I've been doing fine with the phaeston at x with my aj. Spec'd right you still get a 200% cool down. ap mod makes it great for dealing with guardians during cd.

[D4rk50ul808]

Avalon Aurora wrote...

Phaeston is just about the worst weapon you can use on Turian soldier. It's so accurate on it's own it doesn't really take advantage of marksman. You want to use something that normally has terrible accuracy and recoil, but awesome damage and/or firing rate, like the Hurricane, with turian soldier.

A high level Phaeston is a good alternative in similar situations where you'd use an Avenger, I think it has slightly better DPS than Avenger, but is a bit heavier, so probably not as good for power spammers.

Top 3 Reasons why Phaeston completely destroys on a Turian Soldier.

#1 - With the crosshair completely solid (best accuracy) you can put 50 rounds into the head consistently, combined with the 25% headshot bonus and 20% from passives you will destroy anything in the game.  This will also completely bypass shield gating so no damage is wasted.

#2 - It reloads quick with a large clip.  Since Marksman doesn't reload your weapon, this allows you to get the most rounds out during each of the too long durations.  You can also take down entire rooms of enemies due to the fact that you can get more than 1 clip out in a single duration.

#3 - It's lightweight and a 200% CD means you can spam everything you want all the time.  Power spamming works really well since it barely breaks your stream of fire, unlike single shot weapons where you constantly have to micro manage your timings.

I don't think taking a weapon that is lacking in order to make it better is the best line of thinking, I would rather take a weapon that is good and make it elite.

Phaeston Assault Rifle
- Damage increased from [34.7-42.2] to [38.1-47.6]
- Spare Ammo increased from [300-375] to [350-450]
- Encumbrance decreased from [1.5-0.9] to [1.35-0.8]

Just in case no one reads the updates, IIRC that makes it stronger than the Avenger in every single aspect except for about 20% weight.  Considering you need to run the extended mags with the Avenger and can replace it with Barrel/AP mod on the Phaeston, the difference is even larger.

Modifié par D4rk50ul808, 01 mai 2012 - 02:28 .

[Adhin]

I find it amusing people who mention not using the Phaeston because of weight, did no one pay attention to the last few weeks of updates? The things as light as the Avenger now and outputs better DPS with more ammo then it had before. I mean at Rank X you have 500 total shots! 50/450 total, no real recoil, just 3-4 dmg less per shot then the Avenger with a much greater firerate with that ammo capacity?

My minds boggles, congrats you guys.

[benj919]

I really like it on my engineer. Chain-overload stun-looks whatever enemy is around is around while I finish them off with the Phaeston X. As I normally play an infiltrator I especially like its fully automatic nature for the sake of letting my trigger-finger relax a bit.

[Mozts]

Its a good as far as good can be with AR. I use it when I need a secondary source of damage for casters, like Turian Sentinels and Engineers.

I think its better than Mattock, Avenger, GPR and much lighter than Saber and Revenant. Also very easy to get(veteran packs should be enough).

I recommend it for casters who need to spam powers but want a good weapon nonetheless.

Modifié par Mozts, 01 mai 2012 - 02:38 .

[vonSlash]

It's a good halfway point between the Avenger and the Revenant - much more ammo and a bit more power than the Avenger, without the weight of the Revenant (which isn't that much of a hindrance at X, but can be unpleasant at low levels.)

[Veloric Wu]

I have it on my Turian Sentinel and it's easily the most badass weapon in this game, I assure you.

And it is totally a Turian weapon, 200% deadly when paired with Turian's passive AR talents.

Mozts wrote...

Its a good as far as good can be with AR. I
use it when I need a secondary source of damage for casters, like
Turian Sentinels and Engineers.

I think its better than Mattock,
Avenger, GPR and much lighter than Saber and Revenant. Also very easy to
get(veteran packs should be enough).

I recommend it for casters who need to spam powers but want a good weapon nonetheless.

Modifié par FeriktheCerberus, 01 mai 2012 - 03:31 .

[Badpanzer]

I have it a X and never use it...I prefer the Tempest for full auto work.

[OniGanon]

Drummernate wrote...

Avalon Aurora wrote...

Phaeston is just about the worst weapon you can use on Turian soldier.

Vindicator would like a word with you...

It gains like no bonus from marksman at all, has bad recoil without a stability mod, and reverse recoil with one...

While it's true the Vindicator doesn't gain anything from Marksman, full stability spec in the Turian passive makes the recoil a non-issue except at extreme ranges, and even then only outside of cover. But yeah, it's not a weapon for the Turian Soldier.

As for the Phaeston, the idea that it's an accurate weapon is laughable. The Phaeston is a LOW RECOIL weapon. That means its doesn't shake around much, and for a Turian it's basically rock solid. Its ACCURACY- the amount and frequency that bullets stray from the centre of your screen- is actually pretty bad. It's not like shotgun/Revenant bad, but it's bad. It also has bad DPS. So the Phaeston benefits greatly from both the accuracy and increased firing rate of Marksman.

But I'd still rather use a Tempest X.

[Elijini]

I like the Phaeston or GPR with extended magazine and recoil dampener to throw an ammo power on for laughs in gold on my justicar >.> Both still give 200% and you have hundreds of modified rounds to work with.

[Xaijin]

I have it at X but I've never even equipped it, as there much better alternatives in my arsenal also at X.

[guitarsniper]

I get far better DPS (in that I kill things faster, I haven't done actual math) using my Phaeston than with my Revenant, for two reasons. First, I hit a far greater percentage of my shots in the head. Second, the far faster reload time.

[Ciam]

Saber is golden!
Geth Pulse Rifle on Geth becomes epic.
Falcon/Striker for AOE builds.

[jaDanger]

Phaeston is functionally fine, but, despite looking cool, wins the award for most boring gun to play with. It's the assault rifle that makes the avenger look exciting and dynamic.

For a fun and effective full auto experience, throw a hurricane on a turian soldier amd watch the world burn.

[Nocturnalfox]

IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII wrote...

 Does anyone have this? I really like the gun's look and name and I want to like it but it feels really weak at III. Is it good at X and with Turian Soldier or should I not bother with this AR?

I got it, it is really good, if you put ARMU:V on it it turns a nice cool looking blackish grey.Will post a pic.


EDIT:

Modifié par Nocturnalfox, 06 mai 2012 - 08:37 .

[varteral6162]

TianKY wrote...

Steelgrave wrote...

vGriMz wrote...

I have it at X but it's still not that good and you'd be better off using a different Assault Rifle.

Revenant X = best damn gun in the game! Carnifex is nice but the Revenant is more fun.

I concur.

agreed the Revenat works very well at very short ranges where accuarcy is not an issue, especially with a Bartarian soldier by using the Revenant to weaken enemies and Ballistic blades to finish them.

[SiIencE]

Maybe when i had it earlier i'd have given it a try but now that my M9-Saber is rank 2 and my Phaeston is also rank 2 (just got it 2 days ago...). No alot of the weapons become obsolete once you get a better one even at rank 1

[Yosiu]

For Turian soldier you have to use full auto weapon to make best use of marksman ability.
I'm using phaeston X and like this gun - revenant was too inaccurate, reloading too long and too heavy (maybe i have too small revenant level, i'll have to try once again when on X) and avenger got too small clips.
I'm first in points when playing silver runs - no idea how on gold since they kick me all the time i try to play a gold game