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[Doctor Uburian]

 This is extremely offensive, disrespectful, and immoral. 
By the galaxy! They are not going to stop, aren't they? 

Bioware is letting disappear the little humanity it had left:(

[Sylvanspirits]

Ah, the glories of taking quotes of context. Another favorite of mine:

“Even Laurence Fishburne’s incendiary performance can’t ignite Hoodlum, a would-be gangster epic that generates less heat than a nickel cigar. Fishburne’s ‘Bumpy’ is fierce, magnetic, irresistible even… But even this actor can only do so much.” - Hoodlum review

"irresistible" - Hoodlum advertisment, citing the same review

Modifié par Sylvanspirits, 15 avril 2012 - 08:24 .

[Necroscope]

Priceless.

[Giskler]

Wow.

[GuardianAngel470]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Noblewolf wrote...

That Picture ain't real people

Can't be, no one is that stupid/clueless. 

Hindsight, how it makes past events both infinitely more amusing and infinitely more tragic.

[bro_9009]

This picture is nothing surprising. Read their pre-release statements, how they responded to the fans' reaction. It's basically all the same stuff. That's really funny actually when you see PR-spin like that and read their statements heavy on their "artistic vision" and how it is all "art".

[GuardianAngel470]

TheJiveDJ wrote...

Not sure if serious.  No it isn't ethically wrong because they aren't outright lying, but they are telling a mistruth which makes it morally wrong.  Businesses do this all the time, albeit not to this extent.  I don't like it any more than you do, I'm just telling you what the reality is.

It is actually.

City University of New York wrote...


When quoting, be sure to quote word for word, down to the punctuation. Any omissions, additions, or modifications to the quote must be signaled to the reader with ellipses and square brackets, as explained in Advanced Quoting Skills.
While minor modifications are permissible, you must never present the quote in a manner that changes the author's original meaning. Especially if done with the purpose of distorting the author's intention and/or manufacturing support for an entirely different argument, intentionally changing the meaning of a quote is academically dishonest and risks severe penalty.

To intentionally misquote or use an unrelated quote to support your position is dishonest and thus ethically wrong.

[TekFanX]

The incompetency has reached a new dimension.
Whoever created this PR-joke, I feel pity for you.
Being so disconnected with the product you try to sell...pity...just pity.

[SaladinDheonqar]

I know the quote is real, but they can't seriously be using it in advertisements can they? Oh wait, I forgot this was the NEW Bioware we were talking about.

As the_geo_law said, empires fall. DA2 foreshadowed it. This is the beginning of the end.

Modifié par SaladinDheonqar, 15 avril 2012 - 12:19 .

[Zhuinden]

TekFanX wrote...

The incompetency has reached a new dimension.
Whoever created this PR-joke, I feel pity for you.
Being so disconnected with the product you try to sell...pity...just pity.

The incompetency has reached a new dimension.
Whoever created this ending, I feel pity for you.
Being so disconnected with the product you try to create...pity...just pity.

[chmarr]

all i have to say is this

I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR A MONTH.

but i had people jump down my throat giving me hell in public and in private messages (you know who you are) so next time someone says something in a long post that makes sense DO NOT JUMP DOWN THERE THROAT.

jesus eff'in christ you all start listening now

[AresXX7]

Opsrbest wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Opsrbest wrote...Ya ya semantical use towards the actual comment because there is no factual statement in the content as to it's identification. Subjective interpretation is not grounds for claiming something is factually or morally wrong. Quoting someone else is not morally or factually wrong. You take issue with the qoute, blame Entertainment Weekly for making it.

Err, I'm not blaming anyone, it's an advertising tactic, "turn a disadvantage into an advantage"; it's still a lie by ommision, they ommited the reason for the fan reaction.

Really it's a base misunderstanding on both our parts. You where implying the whole use and context of the ad if your post and I thought you were just referencing the quote itself. And I said claiming not blaming. I don't know where you got blaming from.

You might want to take a look at the first quote used above. (it's made by you) 
The bolded/underlined part will show where the blaming part comes from.

[Utopianus]

I think we all need to embrace the harsh reality - that as a game companies grow and their reach in the market expands, they will need to rely less and less of a core fanbase to back up its products. After all, casual gamers who buy seasonal hot-topic games to play it once then forget about it is what's raking in the money for larger game companies. Thus, larger game companies can afford to lose, or a better word is "shed" their old fanbase and embrace the much larger, new "fan"base - one that hardly complains and probably aren't aware of the existence of forums such as this one.

[Pfor]

And to think, all of this fuss over a poorly thought out e-mail.

You'd think they just killed your grandparents, the way some people react to this garbage.

[Nassegris]

the_geo_law wrote...

Quote from: http://popwatch.ew.c...ending-bioware/

Well… if we ever did need an absolute confirmation that they are being deceitful… I guess this is it.

I suppose I should thank them for that? Save me some money in the future, and all.

[troyk2027]

Pfor wrote...

And to think, all of this fuss over a poorly thought out e-mail.

You'd think they just killed your grandparents, the way some people react to this garbage.

I know if someone murdered my grandparents, I'd go straight to the forums.

[Gwtheyrn]

What the **** is this? Are you kidding me? Are you ****ing kidding me? I feel all my rage coming back.

Whoever thought this ad was a good idea needs to be fired effective a week ago.

[Szuli]

the_geo_law wrote...

ShepnTali wrote...

That picture looks victorious.

This is a screen cap of the email.

Well, the ending was certainly devastating.

What disgusts me the most is that they use our pain as a misleading marketing ploy.

[BluKardinal]

Right now my jaw is hanging open, drool is coming out the corner of my mouth, and I am squinting in my screen at disbelief. Right up until now I was willing to attribute the, lets call them inconsistencies, between the pre-release marketing and the actual game to benign neglect or simple hyperbole. I wasn't willing to call them liars because I didn't want to impute any malicious intent to what had happened.

But sweet weeping raptor Shepard that is as deceptive and out of context as you could possibly get. There are exactly three explanations for this that account for all observed phenomena:

1) Bioware/EA have the reading comprehension and english language skills of a wombat. The superb writing found throughout the rest of the franchise was a statistical fluke; the chimpanzees with typewriters finally did produce Hamlet. 

2) Bioware/EA are shameless charlatans and liars who have no problem engaging in deceptive advertising verging on outright fraud in this case of this add.  

3) The marketing department of Bioware/EA are shameless charlatans and liars who have no problem engaging in deceptive advertising verging on outright fraud, and the game's developers along with the rest of the company are either unwilling or unable to stop them.  

Modifié par BluKardinal, 15 avril 2012 - 02:39 .

[KDD-0063]

Yup. The e-mail I got from EA a few days ago has the title
"everyone is talking about Mass Effect 3, see why"

[Fruit of the Doom]

BluKardinal wrote...
1) Bioware/EA have the reading comprehension and english language skills of a wombat.

Wombats have had enough of your disingenuous assertions!

[MrMcDoll]

I wish I could kick a guy in the nuts through the internet sometimes.
And I had the email of whoever it was that used that quote as advertising.

I am just so shocked at how Bioware and EA just DONT GET IT!

What happened to the studio that brought us Baldur's Gate?
As I write this I'm looking at the cool cloth map I have from BG2. It just makes me sadder. - Like stumbling across an old photo of you and a girlfriend from a while back - one from before she spent all your life savings on blow, and slept with her corporate boss.

[DJBare]

"Sometimes it's better to let people think you are a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt."

[Thaa_solon]

I am speachless....