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[Tazzmission]

Menethra wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

:sigh: im so glad i dont work for bioware because you guys would really drive me to become an alchoholic


everyone just needs to shut up about the ending because its been beaten to death

Complaining about people complaining, cool going bro.

im complaining because people keep remaking threads when theres a official sticky one for such a thing

do we really need multiple threads on anti endings?

i mean its not that hard to go to the spoiler forums and post in the we didnt get the endings we want thread

[Dragoonlordz]

aberdash wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Not really. A few dozen people can spam the internet pushing their opinion through the media and create a perception of a big reaction. What is funny is how so many who hate the endings feel that they need validation through the media in the first place.

It would take more than a few dozen people to raise $80,000 for a charity. Also nobody from RME sought media attention.

Assumption, it could take as little as one person or as much as a million.

RME has constantly sought media attention, your using a lie of omission yourself now. Irony.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 15 avril 2012 - 04:13 .

[Father_Jerusalem]

Hexley UK wrote...

Sooo much pro-ender delusion going on in this thread.

Sooo much anti-BioWare whining going on in this thread.

[aberdash]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Assumption, it could take as little as one person or as much as a million.

RME has constantly sought media attention, your using a lie of ommision yourself now. Irony.

RME has never sought media attention. You are assuming that because media attention came after their actions that they were seeking it.

[Father_Jerusalem]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

aberdash wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Not really. A few dozen people can spam the internet pushing their opinion through the media and create a perception of a big reaction. What is funny is how so many who hate the endings feel that they need validation through the media in the first place.

It would take more than a few dozen people to raise $80,000 for a charity. Also nobody from RME sought media attention.

Assumption, it could take as little as one person or as much as a million.

RME has constantly sought media attention, your using a lie of omission yourself now. Irony.

That's not a lie of omission, that's just an outright lie.

[Dragoonlordz]

aberdash wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Assumption, it could take as little as one person or as much as a million.

RME has constantly sought media attention, your using a lie of ommision yourself now. Irony.

RME has never sought media attention. You are assuming that because media attention came after their actions that they were seeking it.

Incorrect. False statement and omission even self denial and misinformation.

My comment was true. You just do not want to admit it.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 15 avril 2012 - 04:16 .

[aberdash]

So when has RME sought media attention? I only see you assuming intent right now.

[Tazzmission]

aLucidMind wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Menethra wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

:sigh: im so glad i dont work for bioware because you guys would really drive me to become an alchoholic


everyone just needs to shut up about the ending because its been beaten to death

Complaining about people complaining, cool going bro.

im complaining because people keep remaking threads when theres a official sticky one for such a thing

do we really need multiple threads on anti endings?

i mean its not that hard to go to the spoiler forums and post in the we didnt get the endings we want thread

It is when the forum doesn't allow you to register the game you bought. Many are having this problem, especially CE owners like myself.

no offence but i call bs on that because i bought the collectors edition and it registered fine

and again not to sound like a jerk but i think people just dont care because they are all in a rage to where they feel its ok to just spam the boards where it dosent belong

to me and only me that says only they themselves are the only people who matter

its like they really think there little protest is so important to where they attack people who disagree possitivily

i mean come on dude even you got to agree that it does get out of hand

[spirosz]

Funny how that photo is another stock photo/use of photoshop.

Let's count: that one, Tali's face, after credits image, am I missing anymore?

Modifié par spiros9110, 15 avril 2012 - 04:19 .

[GBJ13]

Sigh, every survey has shown that people dislike the ending. Reddit, BSN, etc. The Pro-Ending Modification Group dramatically exceeds the Pro-Keep the Ending the same group on FB. In order to believe, the majority of fans "liked" the ending you have to believe:
1. People who liked the ending are incredibly dispassionate and not willing to defend it.
2. The people who post on the internet are not in any way a representative sample of fans in general.
3. People who have not posted are pro or indifferent on the ending.
4. Space Magic.

Again, it's impossible to known conclusively what's the majority opinion without good accurate scientific polling. However, the more logical inference is "most people dislike the ending"

I had professors who worked as political consultants during the 1994 and 2010 who talked about those experts/campaign managers who didn't feel that emerging grass roots movements were representative of the national mood. They looked pretty foolish now. A lot of times the loudest voices are just saying exactly what everybody else wants to say.

[Dragoonlordz]

aberdash wrote...

So when has RME sought media attention? I only see you assuming intent right now.

Add ignorance to the list based on your responses. Many have said they want to gain media attention and actively pursue such from articles, news and blogs plus more many times over last few weeks. Like I said my comment was true. It still is.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 15 avril 2012 - 04:21 .

[aberdash]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Add ignorance to the list based on your responses. Many have said they want to gain media attention and actively pursue such from articles, news and blogs plus more many times over last few weeks.

I can only attribute your lack of evidence and "no u" response to an admission of being wrong. Also not everyone who dislikes the ending also supports RME.

Modifié par aberdash, 15 avril 2012 - 04:22 .

[Tazzmission]

GBJ13 wrote...

Sigh, every survey has shown that people dislike the ending. Reddit, BSN, etc. The Pro-Ending Modification Group dramatically exceeds the Pro-Keep the Ending the same group on FB. In order to believe, the majority of fans "liked" the ending you have to believe:
1. People who liked the ending are incredibly dispassionate and not willing to defend it.
2. The people who post on the internet are not in any way a representative sample of fans in general.
3. People who have not posted are pro or indifferent on the ending.
4. Space Magic.

Again, it's impossible to known conclusively what's the majority opinion without good accurate scientific polling. However, the more logical inference is "most people dislike the ending"

I had professors who worked as political consultants during the 1994 and 2010 who talked about those experts/campaign managers who didn't feel that emerging grass roots movements were representative of the national mood. They looked pretty foolish now. A lot of times the loudest voices are just saying exactly what everybody else wants to say.

no offence but this hole backlash is so out of controll to where if someone says they stand by liking the endings they are verbally insulted

i myself have been insulted as have other people

i dont give a crap if anyone hates  the ending but it dosent give anyone a right to insult me with name calling


and i wont deny i have retaliated against those that have done nothing but provoke a situation with me

[Father_Jerusalem]

aberdash wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Add ignorance to the list based on your responses. Many have said they want to gain media attention and actively pursue such from articles, news and blogs plus more many times over last few weeks.

I can only attribute your lack of evidence and "no u" response to an admission of being wrong. Also not everyone who dislikes the ending also supports RME.

So what would you call filing a complaint with the FTC and the BBB, or threatening lawsuits other than "trying to gain media attention"?

[thunderhawk862002]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

thunderhawk862002 wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

thunderhawk862002 wrote...


Of course you don't.  But someone with no knowledge of the situation would assume the reaction was positive.  Don't even deny that.

You whine when BioWare advertises, in your mind, "false" things. You whine when BioWare advertises true things that even you don't deny are true.

Good grief. Do you just not BioWare to advertise at all? For anything?

That's would be like Jack in the Box putting out the following advertisement during their E. coli outbreak.
We are one of the best rated fast food chains in the nation!
Our burgers have been in the news for weeks now!

It makes it seem like their burgers have been in the news for good reasons instead of hospitalizing hundreds of people.  Hence the whole thing is misleading even if technically true.  Which is more than I can say about the interviews Hudson and Walters gave about the endings.

Irrelevent. EA did not put thousands in hosptial or hundreds. Your analogies play no part in this.

If was medical concern even EA would put out press releases warning people. It does not apply in this situation.

It is plain and simple business practice to promote your product by putting a positive spin on such.

Nothing said in the OP image was not true.

Fine I'll switch it up.  Let's put the advertisement after the outbreak has passed so there's no more tainted beef.  Then there's no more worrying about the health issue so it's free advertisement.

[Dragoonlordz]

aberdash wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Add ignorance to the list based on your responses. Many have said they want to gain media attention and actively pursue such from articles, news and blogs plus more many times over last few weeks.

I can only attribute your lack of evidence and "no u" response to an admission of being wrong. Also not everyone who dislikes the ending also supports RME.

I'm talking about people with RME banners in their signatures asking for such. I'm done with you. You are in denial, your lieing and your making false statements in order to promote your comment via omission which is hypocritical given your first comment in this thread about lie by omission regarding the OP image. You are doing the very same and pretending your not.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 15 avril 2012 - 04:28 .

[aberdash]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

So what would you call filing a complaint with the FTC and the BBB, or threatening lawsuits other than "trying to gain media attention"?

RME came out against that.

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I'm talking about people with RME banners in their signatures asking for such. I'm done with you. You are in denial, your lieing and your making false statements in order to promote your comment via omission which is hypocritical given your first comment in this thread about lie by omission. You are doing the very same and pretending your not.

That's a nice attempt to bow out gracefully without admitting you're wrong. The actions of the individual also do not reflect the actions of the whole.

Modifié par aberdash, 15 avril 2012 - 04:27 .

[thunderhawk862002]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

aberdash wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Add ignorance to the list based on your responses. Many have said they want to gain media attention and actively pursue such from articles, news and blogs plus more many times over last few weeks.

I can only attribute your lack of evidence and "no u" response to an admission of being wrong. Also not everyone who dislikes the ending also supports RME.

So what would you call filing a complaint with the FTC and the BBB, or threatening lawsuits other than "trying to gain media attention"?

Being a consumer concerned with poor business practices is what I would call it.

[Dragoonlordz]

GBJ13 wrote...

Sigh, every survey has shown that people dislike the ending. Reddit, BSN, etc. The Pro-Ending Modification Group dramatically exceeds the Pro-Keep the Ending the same group on FB. In order to believe, the majority of fans "liked" the ending you have to believe:
1. People who liked the ending are incredibly dispassionate and not willing to defend it.
2. The people who post on the internet are not in any way a representative sample of fans in general.
3. People who have not posted are pro or indifferent on the ending.
4. Space Magic.

Again, it's impossible to known conclusively what's the majority opinion without good accurate scientific polling. However, the more logical inference is "most people dislike the ending"

I had professors who worked as political consultants during the 1994 and 2010 who talked about those experts/campaign managers who didn't feel that emerging grass roots movements were representative of the national mood. They looked pretty foolish now. A lot of times the loudest voices are just saying exactly what everybody else wants to say.

I have no doubt (imho) that a huge amount of people disliked the ending, those being 'vocal' in their dislike does not mean all those 'non vocal' people agree on wanting it changed, it does not mean they all want it changed the same way either.

[Tazzmission]

aLucidMind wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

aLucidMind wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

im complaining because people keep remaking threads when theres a official sticky one for such a thing

do we really need multiple threads on anti endings?

i mean its not that hard to go to the spoiler forums and post in the we didnt get the endings we want thread

It is when the forum doesn't allow you to register the game you bought. Many are having this problem, especially CE owners like myself.

no offence but i call bs on that because i bought the collectors edition and it registered fine

and again not to sound like a jerk but i think people just dont care because they are all in a rage to where they feel its ok to just spam the boards where it dosent belong

to me and only me that says only they themselves are the only people who matter

its like they really think there little protest is so important to where they attack people who disagree possitivily

i mean come on dude even you got to agree that it does get out of hand

People on both sides go too far and cause things to get out of hand. I really wish people would learn that if they cannot speak maturely and respectfully then they are to not speak at all.

oh i agree 100% both sides are at fault theres no denying that

im not apart of either group im just caught in the middle where i feel like i have to fight because im basicly forced into it by both parties

i hate fighting honestly and in fact i left another forum do to fighting

i get annoyed when something like the ending fisaco is still being argued on who's right who's wrong, bioware lied they didnt lie

i think everybody on both sides need to move on and let this debate finally die

[GBJ13]

Tazzmission wrote...

GBJ13 wrote...

Sigh, every survey has shown that people dislike the ending. Reddit, BSN, etc. The Pro-Ending Modification Group dramatically exceeds the Pro-Keep the Ending the same group on FB. In order to believe, the majority of fans "liked" the ending you have to believe:
1. People who liked the ending are incredibly dispassionate and not willing to defend it.
2. The people who post on the internet are not in any way a representative sample of fans in general.
3. People who have not posted are pro or indifferent on the ending.
4. Space Magic.

Again, it's impossible to known conclusively what's the majority opinion without good accurate scientific polling. However, the more logical inference is "most people dislike the ending"

I had professors who worked as political consultants during the 1994 and 2010 who talked about those experts/campaign managers who didn't feel that emerging grass roots movements were representative of the national mood. They looked pretty foolish now. A lot of times the loudest voices are just saying exactly what everybody else wants to say.

no offence but this hole backlash is so out of controll to where if someone says they stand by liking the endings they are verbally insulted

i myself have been insulted as have other people

i dont give a crap if anyone hates  the ending but it dosent give anyone a right to insult me with name calling


and i wont deny i have retaliated against those that have done nothing but provoke a situation with me

I agree that some posters have crossed the line. I'm not defending that post. I've tried to stay positive, articulate ideas that I think work, and defend Bioware's employees when people crossed the line.  I hope you still feel comfortable posting your ideas and thoughts, and it sucks if you don't.

That being said, the fact that it's so overwhelming should indicate the pervasiveness of the beleif. All I'm saying is that the most realistic viewpoint of the data is the majority of people dislike the ending. It's not conclusive, obviously, because there are concerns about authenticity of the sample. But, there's a lot of evidence, though imperfect, on one side, and a lot of really, really bad analysis on the other.  That's my major point.

[Father_Jerusalem]

aLucidMind wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

aLucidMind wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

im complaining because people keep remaking threads when theres a official sticky one for such a thing

do we really need multiple threads on anti endings?

i mean its not that hard to go to the spoiler forums and post in the we didnt get the endings we want thread

It is when the forum doesn't allow you to register the game you bought. Many are having this problem, especially CE owners like myself.

no offence but i call bs on that because i bought the collectors edition and it registered fine

and again not to sound like a jerk but i think people just dont care because they are all in a rage to where they feel its ok to just spam the boards where it dosent belong

to me and only me that says only they themselves are the only people who matter

its like they really think there little protest is so important to where they attack people who disagree possitivily

i mean come on dude even you got to agree that it does get out of hand

None taken. Just because you were able to doesn't mean others are not having problems. I even went to EA customer service asking about it, they just shrugged me off and did nothing. Which says a lot about them if they're shutting out someone being civil and respectful considering that they didn't cause the problem, they just fix it.

People on both sides go too far and cause things to get out of hand. I really wish people would learn that if they cannot speak maturely and respectfully then they are to not speak at all.

There are actual, verifiable cases of people having problems registering their games. It's not a new phenomenon, unfortunately. The registered user forum also affects people who don't have internet connections on their consoles, or people, like me, who share an X-Box with their roommate. He buys the BioWare games and registers them, I buy other games and register them. But since I'm not registered, I can't use the forum.

It's a crappy system, though I do understand why they put it in place. I just wish they'd make workarounds to help more people be able to post in there.