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rmpumper

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To quote a dude from Forbes "Mass Effect 3 Ending 'Provoked A Bigger Fan Reaction Than Any Other' In Video Game History" article comments:

"You know despite almost 70 years passing the Jews still are upset about the holocaust. Obviously the Jews loved the Holocaust, and especially its gas chambers."

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jakal66

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Excuse me but what part of that statement ins't true?It has provoked just that...hell I'd use it for promoting something of mine...what part of business you don't get.You people just have to find something to rage about or else you won't have nothing to do in the forums...

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jakal66 wrote...

Excuse me but what part of that statement ins't true?It has provoked just that...hell I'd use it for promoting something of mine...what part of business you don't get.You people just have to find something to rage about or else you won't have nothing to do in the forums...


Go ahead and do a google search for the 75 perfect reviews, you won't find them.
That right there is the first lie.
The second lie is a lie of omission when they use that quote in context with the inaccurate 75 perfect scores to imply that the ending feedback was good.

Do I need to explain it again? perhaps use smaller words? 

Modifié par Arsenic Touch, 16 avril 2012 - 06:12 .


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jakal66 wrote...

Excuse me but what part of that statement ins't true?It has provoked just that...hell I'd use it for promoting something of mine...what part of business you don't get.You people just have to find something to rage about or else you won't have nothing to do in the forums...


Oh great, there's more of you people.

Its a blatant stab at all of the negative fan reactions that have ocurred ever since, and arguable before, the game's release. People feel like they're being made fun of, ignored, dismissed, turned into a marketing ploy.

News flash; that's not okay.

Turning negatives into positives are fine; until those "Negatives," are people and their heart felt opinions.

EDIT: Add Arsenic's 75 "Perfect," scores to the list as well. Its a sham.

Modifié par BentOrgy, 16 avril 2012 - 06:21 .


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Nightdragon8

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HenchxNarf wrote...

matthewmi wrote...

What's wrong with that picture seems accurate? It has provoked a big reaction and has received lots of perfect scores, it is a great game, even if the end is weaker than I'd hoped.


I know, right?

But because it doesn't make it seem like OMG THE GAME IS HORRIBLE! Then they don't like it.


*sigh* so you agree with companies spinning situations for there benifit as a "Good" thing??

I woudl be like a life insurance company where to say that, the most "talked about company about its service" if it all was bad service and being complained about......

also, if thats the case, then I dont see why restrounts shouldn't use them same tactic...

its "dishonest" and I really HATE dishonest advertising.

I mean, look what happened at the begining of the year... the first movie to come out in the theaters in the year and they say "The best movie of the year" when in fact there was no other movies coming out as of yet.

#506
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From an Artistic point of view I view their final ending artwork as sloppy beyond childish , that being me the viewer who paid to view the art that was promise to be Legendary only to see the said artwork with little fascination and a lot of disappointment as I end up staring at the artwork being finger painted STICK MEN! (Get my metaphor?)

The ending was poorly executed in my mind because of all the inconsistencies in the ending scone from where you regain consciousness onward. From there on everything just seems a bit array. Does ANYONE agree with me or at least have empathy towards what I and so many other Loyal fans are annoyed about? Anyone? :|

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"Were Listening!"

:lol:

#508
RaggieRags

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Even more insult to injury. This thing just keeps getting worse and worse.

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garf wrote...

THIS is insultingly bad.
Quote from: http://popwatch.ew.c...ending-bioware/
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Wow. You know, I was completely in favour of waiting till Bioware finished the Ending DLC before judging, but this?! Who in Bioware thought it a good idea to douse the flames of irate customers with a nice helping of gasoline?

This image is the kind of behaviour that would get your topic locked and you perhaps banned from the boards - clearly something to incite... can't they ban the PR department for a month or so?

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FlashedMyDrive wrote...

wolfstanus wrote...

This is why the most of the community is just horrid... Overreacting over stupid idiotic crap like this.


Spinning the negative fan reaction as something positive is sort of a dick move.


Only it's not, because a negative fan reaction ( of the sort ME3 faced) is actually something very positive.

It means that people care about the game. Where there is controversy there is something interesting happening, otherwise there would be no opinions at all.

If the game received I dunno how many perfect scores, and still got a fiery community minority to get extremely vocal about certain aspects of the game, then it means there's something to check out about this game. 


The poster is not misleading in any way. 

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Dexi wrote...

Only it's not, because a negative fan reaction ( of the sort ME3 faced) is actually something very positive.

It means that people care about the game. Where there is controversy there is something interesting happening, otherwise there would be no opinions at all.

If the game received I dunno how many perfect scores, and still got a fiery community minority to get extremely vocal about certain aspects of the game, then it means there's something to check out about this game. 


The poster is not misleading in any way. 


I aplogize for the tone of the following statement, but not for the statement itself:

You're out of your mind. Either that, or you're trolling. There's no other excuse to actually believe what you're saying; how many thousands of people (Critic and regular fan alike.) on how many dozens of polls/threads/boards have expressed their dislike or hatred for what we received in ME3? How many petitions to have aspects of the game changed or lost completely? Not to mention the fact that not matter how you slice it; this banner blatantly stabs at all those who felt somewhat victimized and or cheated by what EA and Bioware has done.

Minority indeed.

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[quote]Dexi wrote...

[quote]FlashedMyDrive wrote...

[quote]wolfstanus wrote...

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Only it's not...
The poster is not misleading in any way. 
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Only,....it is. Because the insinuation or the "thought"  they are trying to "provoke" is that everyone is raving in line with the "75 perfect ratings".

You are right in what you say. This is the typical "never let a crisis go to waste" approach.

That doesn't change the fact that this is a patently dishonest despicable approach.

Where I live there is a saying, translated it goes something like "a half-truth is worse than a lie"

And morally I think that is correct. Just because the untrue implicit message is created by combining two explicit statements that are true in a certain fashion doesn't make it right. It's sleazy to the max.

BioWare/EA, for real: We've had enough of your disingenuous assertions!

Edited to be more readable

Modifié par translationninja, 16 avril 2012 - 09:28 .


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AkiKishi

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Dexi wrote...

FlashedMyDrive wrote...

wolfstanus wrote...

This is why the most of the community is just horrid... Overreacting over stupid idiotic crap like this.


Spinning the negative fan reaction as something positive is sort of a dick move.


Only it's not, because a negative fan reaction ( of the sort ME3 faced) is actually something very positive.

It means that people care about the game. Where there is controversy there is something interesting happening, otherwise there would be no opinions at all.

If the game received I dunno how many perfect scores, and still got a fiery community minority to get extremely vocal about certain aspects of the game, then it means there's something to check out about this game. 


The poster is not misleading in any way. 


The fan reaction is overwhelmingly negative. The people who don't react don't count here , so none of this silent majority stuff applies.

#514
lillitheris

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Helping BioWare is all in a day's work for us entitled whiners.

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Vasarkian

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As I've said before, this thread is in dire need of some cigars and wine and calmer conversation.