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[Anthadlas]

This is insulting, they have no clarification and seem to be saying that the massive fan reaction is due to it's perfect scores and a positive thing when it is actually a massive negative. Using the fans reaction to a bad ending in an attempt to sell more copies is despicable

[kbct]

garf wrote...

THIS is insultingly bad.
Quote from: http://popwatch.ew.c...ending-bioware/

No wonder EA has been voted the worst company in America.

PR took two true statements and made it seem like the fan reaction to the ending wasn't negative.

Hey BioWare, way to spin it!

[MICHELLE7]

Rogue1982 wrote...

garf wrote...

THIS is insultingly bad.
Quote from: http://popwatch.ew.c...ending-bioware/

The picture just neglects to mention 'MOSTLY NEGATIVE Reaction'

Yep...makes it sound like the reason it got the perfect scores was because of its awesome ending...I mean why else would they have such a big fan reaction<_<

[BatmanPWNS]

Bioware are trolling.

[Oldbones2]

matthewmi wrote...

What's wrong with that picture seems accurate? It has provoked a big reaction and has received lots of perfect scores, it is a great game, even if the end is weaker than I'd hoped.

Because it uses two completely different facts twist into a new fact?

Because it deliberately leaves out the context of both of those facts?

For example, I could say, Harry Truman is regarded as one of our countries BEST presidents.  He stepped in from Vice President after the tragic death of FDR and later won reelection after his legendary whistle stop campaign.

Now both of these statements are true individually.  However taken together they would lead you to believe that HT won reelection with ease, or that he was regarded as a great president AT THE TIME.  That's not true.

HT struggled greatly with reelection and was a much HATED president during his terms.  It's only later that we saw the value of his tough decision and foresight.


Compare with the above.

Both of those statements are true.  However without context or additional information, when they are presented together like that they will give the impression that the fan response to the ending was positive (because the other statement is positive) and that the ending in particular is great on a already 'perfect' game.


If this is an ad, fine.  They can put down whatever they want.  If it is a review then its misleading and wrong.

Taking things out of context is a cheap shot for when you don't have a good argument.

[Drake_Hound]

And harry truman stop mac arthur from launching 50 nuclear bombs at the world !
Just to win the korean war .

So doesn´t that make him responsible person ?
But that part doesn´t matter , we all look at Mac Arthur as a great person .
And harry Truman as loser...

But you cannot deny the truth . especially something as brilliantly put as that AD.

[Il Divo]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

It never said the reaction was positive. They didn't lie, just so you know.

Sure they did.

If someone didn't know much about the Mass Effect series and doesn't read a lot of gaming press, they might not have heard about the controversy surrounding the endings. Reading that ad, they aren't going to think the ending was controversial. They are going to read it as something that everyone is raving about. And that is the intention of the suits that created the ad.

You do realize that not all the fan reaction has been bad, right? I think they mean in general.

You might actually want to look up the lie of omission.

[Drake_Hound]

If you want to play the lie by omission card

Then start killing yourself , cause the whole world is a lie by ommission .
Since blair as Politician started it !
So congrats UK for being the country to reelect somebody , who is a politican ( people representative) that admit he lied !

Sorry in that way atleast Bush is a terrific politician , he never admit anything !
Cause it wouldn´t make him look bad lol , it would make people he represent look bad .

[Sero303]

kbct wrote...

garf wrote...

THIS is insultingly bad.
Quote from: http://popwatch.ew.c...ending-bioware/

No wonder EA has been voted the worst company in America.

PR took two true statements and made it seem like the fan reaction to the ending wasn't negative.

Hey BioWare, way to spin it!

I hate cheaters, and that is exactly what this is, putting a positive spin on a massively negative truth. But than again would you really expect them to adevertise "Fans who poured hundreds of dollars into our products have spoken, they hate our ending and wants our heads on a pike!"
I doubt would go over to well.

[Loup Blanc]

garf wrote...

THIS is insultingly bad.
Quote from: http://popwatch.ew.c...ending-bioware/

This is the FINAL INSULT.

How some of your folks still support Bioware after that is just sad and unbelievable.

Remember: vote with your wallet from now on.

[someone else]

garf wrote...

THIS is insultingly bad.
Quote from: http://popwatch.ew.c...ending-bioware/

proof once again that there is no such thing as bad publicity

...also proof of the level at which EA/BW really values the fanbase.

[jennamarae]

I'm amazed with how many people expect advertising of anything to be completely 100% accurate. The entire point of advertising is to capture people's attention and interest so that they purchase a product or service. Not to list all the good and bad things people have said about that product or service. That's why Nyquil ads don't mention it tastes like green death, cell phone ads don't mention that it'll cost you an arm and a leg to cancel the contract when you discover you don't get signal in your house, and movie ads don't mention that even though it won an award the movie still sucked. The game has provoked the largest reaction of any other game I'm aware of. They're not going to tell you in an ad if that reaction is negative or positive, and if you expect otherwise you're a bit naive.

[Loup Blanc]

jennamarae wrote...

I'm amazed with how many people expect advertising of anything to be completely 100% accurate. The entire point of advertising is to capture people's attention and interest so that they purchase a product or service. Not to list all the good and bad things people have said about that product or service. That's why Nyquil ads don't mention it tastes like green death, cell phone ads don't mention that it'll cost you an arm and a leg to cancel the contract when you discover you don't get signal in your house, and movie ads don't mention that even though it won an award the movie still sucked. The game has provoked the largest reaction of any other game I'm aware of. They're not going to tell you in an ad if that reaction is negative or positive, and if you expect otherwise you're a bit naive.

It is still insulting.

[jennamarae]

JL81 wrote...

It is still insulting.

And? Most advertising insults our intelligence in some way on a daily basis. The only difference is we normally either don't notice or don't care enough to complain about it. I've never seen grease just detach itself from my dishes and float to the top of the sink, but that's what ads for Dawn dish liquid claim will happen. This is no different, it's an ad for a product and they will always spin it to get you to buy that product. Expecting otherwise will only lead to disappointment.

[someone else]

jennamarae wrote...
They're not going to tell you in an ad if that reaction is negative or positive, and if you expect otherwise you're a bit naive.

you are the one who is naive, I am afraid.  Advertising that is "false or misleading"  - a "misleading" statement is generally considered to be a misrepresentation or omission of a material fact -

In the world of the grown-ups, this kind of advertising violates long-established federal and state law and  is certainly against every ethical standard adhered to by established firms in the trade - I don't think anyone is going to haul EA into court, but that does not make this ad any the less a "Deception"

...and YES I do know what I am talking about here. 

Modifié par someone else, 15 avril 2012 - 02:15 .

[Moofy76]

The game got a lot of very good scores despite it's unconventional "controversial" ending which a lot of people cried about because they wanted their typical expected vanilla ending, the ending was great.

It's just a game, you aren't Shepard IRL people!!

Modifié par Moofy76, 15 avril 2012 - 02:31 .

[lillitheris]

Integrity, motherf-, do you speak it?

[Documental]

Ha, that is actually quite clever.

[Dracotyr]

ah yes so you dislike the ending of our game.
we have dismissed that claim.

[AkiKishi]

EA not happy with ME3's sales are they.

[abaris]

Wraith 02 wrote...

This is insulting, they have no clarification and seem to be saying that the massive fan reaction is due to it's perfect scores and a positive thing when it is actually a massive negative. Using the fans reaction to a bad ending in an attempt to sell more copies is despicable

Welcome to the world of marketing and it's wonderful inhabitants.

[Reever]

BobSmith101 wrote...

EA not happy with ME3's sales are they.

I thought the opposite were the case....or have many games been returned?