DrowVampyre wrote...
Laurencio wrote...
DJBare wrote...
Laurencio wrote...
Do you get Kazimir Malevich's "White on white" ? Cause I sure don't, in fact I don't understand how a blank paitning is art, but it's still considered art. At no point does art exclude the need people will have to get something"explained" to them.
Nothing to understand, the art is getting people to accept it as art and the artists accomplished that, according to 90% of the fans, Bioware has not accomplished the same.
Van Gogh's works weren't considered art until after he died. In fact they were considered as trash and nonsensical rubbish by a talentless hack. Today he is revered as one of the finest painters of all time. Art is not about having people accept it as art.
True, but commissioned art is about making the art the way the commissioner likes, which is basically what a video game is. And even then, even if you don't believe it's commissioned art...did Van Gogh try to sell his paintings by saying "it provoked a massive reaction in other people who've seen it!"? Doubtful.
If it is comissioned art, then in this case the client is Bioware or Electronic Arts, not the consumers. Further promotion has nothing to do with artistic integrity, as it's the client, Bioware or Electronic Arts that are promoting it, not the artists.
Vox Draco wrote...
Laurencio wrote...
DJBare wrote...
Laurencio wrote...
Do
you get Kazimir Malevich's "White on white" ? Cause I sure don't, in
fact I don't understand how a blank paitning is art, but it's still
considered art. At no point does art exclude the need people will have
to get something"explained" to them.
Nothing to understand, the
art is getting people to accept it as art and the artists accomplished
that, according to 90% of the fans, Bioware has not accomplished the
same.
Van Gogh's works weren't considered art until
after he died. In fact they were considered as trash and nonsensical
rubbish by a talentless hack. Today he is revered as one of the finest
painters of all time. Art is not about having people accept it as art.
ahem...why
is van Gogh revered as a fine painter? because somebody MUST have
accepted that his works are art. You know, if nobody cares about a piece
of art, than it won't become art. Movies must be seen, music must be
heard, books must be read. Without the public, art is nothing. It is the
people and their interest in an artists work that can elevate something
to being art...
Just painting a picture, hanging it in your
cellar and than wait till you die won't automatically turn that picture
into a piece of art....
Art doesn't need to be elevated, it is art on its own merits. Van Gogh's work is no more art today than it was when he lived, they aren't changed, they haven't been redone. All that has changed is public perception of it. It's still the exact same thing that was shown to people when he was alive. Would you say that when Van Gogh lived he wasn't an artist, that he was in fact a talentless mad man with a brush? That he only became an artist after he died? And if so, how can someone who is not an artist create art, and how can someone who was not an artist be revered as one of the finest painters, and artists?
The story of the Mass Effect universe has been told, the graphics have been seen, and the music has been heard. So the public interest is clearly there, it's also highly controversial and discussed, having invoked a lot of emotion and interest. There is no demand of art to be accepted by the majority.
Not saying that you can, all I'm saying is that at no point does art have to be considered as art by a majority to be accpeted as art.
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