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[Matt561]

With Ea's track record they just might.

[moonlightwolf]

Bioware have new fans now. Fans that don't frequent message boards, fans that enjoy multiplayer more than single player, fans that skip all the dialog and cutscenes except the sex scenes and fans that wouldn't look twice at the codex. These are the fans EA wants, these are the fans bioware needs, and these fans will be their supporters at least until the next call of duty game comes out.

[Kilshrek]

PaxtonFetel wrote...

Two comments. 1. Free addition to the multiplayer. Was originally to have been for the money. I think it's the olive branch of peace for the fans. 2. Ext DLC in spite of the statement that this clarification in fact there is information that there will be an alternative end.

1) Was not an olive branch but a clever move to make further complaints seem very childish. Though most will not see that the MP and SP should be treated very separately.

2) Please provide black and white from devs saying that there definitely will be an alternative ending.

[Loopeeeeeee]

bioware staff regret the day they sold their integrity and loyal devote customer base when they sold out to EA. everyday when they walk through the front door at work at 9am.

[MrFob]

Kilshrek wrote...

PaxtonFetel wrote...

Two comments. 1. Free addition to the multiplayer. Was originally to have been for the money. I think it's the olive branch of peace for the fans. 2. Ext DLC in spite of the statement that this clarification in fact there is information that there will be an alternative end.

1) Was not an olive branch but a clever move to make further complaints seem very childish. Though most will not see that the MP and SP should be treated very separately.

2) Please provide black and white from devs saying that there definitely will be an alternative ending.

Woah, what? I'd like some proof for point two as well please.

[Galifreya]

You are forgetting that only two writers were responsible for the ending "fiasco." So your solution is to punish the entire company for what the director and head writer did? OP needs to get their priorities in order. Everyone else who worked on the game can only do "damage control." They can't -undo- the ending for you. Their bosses said so.

[Sarevok Synder]

GreenSoda wrote...

Not really, though. The C&C game will be done by a completely different studio that has nothing to do with BW, really. EA is just slapping the name Bioware on the box for brand recognition.

I heard the same thing when people were expressing concerns about the drop in standards for DA2, and fears of the same happening to ME3. "They are different studios," sorry I'm not buying it.

Modifié par Sarevok Synder, 15 avril 2012 - 02:07 .

[The Spamming Troll]

why do you say "no offense" when your offended?

im offended enough to feel i need to rent the next ME game before i buy it.

which is weird becase there was a time in my life i litereally "loved" mass effect. never thought thered be a day where i thought "meh" about mass effect.

so id say ME3 offends me.

[luzburg]

jezz ist starting to boil over for me to soon. if i ever meet the pepole responsible for this i cant promise not to do something stupid

[bpzrn]

superduperkoala wrote...

Oh well, i guess BioWare decided they don't need a fanbase after all.

[Ubergrog]

Oh.. by the way...

THIS PROBABLY WAS NOT BIOWARE'S DOING!

THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ADVERTISEMENT!!!

THIS IS EA!

[DangerousPuddy]

bpzrn wrote...

superduperkoala wrote...

Oh well, i guess BioWare decided they don't need a fanbase after all.

They more they blow us off with PR talk and tactics, bad games and shameless money-grabbing this quote is 100% correct.

The worst part is EA and the fatcats at the top will still be rich but careers of our devs at BioWare will take a hit, as well as the company itself.

Modifié par DangerousPuddy, 15 avril 2012 - 02:12 .

[PaxtonFetel]

I have no direct evidence, but they are not idiots I think.

[TreguardD]

*This* I'd like to see a response to.

[Jonathan Shepard]

Let the hate flow through you!

[Kyle Kabanya]

Personally, Bioware is a fantastic company making my two favorite games of all time Mass Effect series and Jade Empire. They were doing great until EA took over and wanted every game to be as much action as CoD.

And they can't do that Bioware is great at telling stories not action movie games. The ending was bd because EA wanted the franchise to come full circle so people would try ME1, but it should have ended like how Bioware wanted. A fallen hero for the lives of many or a miracle play, not this shep must die and the franchise needs to climax and die in the last game. Dumb.

[CDHarrisUSF]

EA is singing this on the way to the bank.

[macrocarl]

Any time someone starts out something with 'No offense', you know it'll be offensive and probably shocked when it actually isn't. Which, this post isn't. Sorry. There's a couple of these 'Bioware must go out of business for X Y Z reasons'. I don't want to be offensive but this thread is already old hat.

[bluewolv1970]

It is fitting that EA was voted worst company in America and beat out Bank of America, when EA/Bioware uses the same misleading/lying tactics that banks use...

[TreguardD]

macrocarl wrote...

Any time someone starts out something with 'No offense', you know it'll be offensive and probably shocked when it actually isn't. Which, this post isn't. Sorry. There's a couple of these 'Bioware must go out of business for X Y Z reasons'. I don't want to be offensive but this thread is already old hat.

True. Should have used "With all Due Respect" instead.

/ashley was right.

[AllThatJazz]

I honestly don't see why this is any worse than all the other advertising out there. I hate advertising in general - I hate it on billboards and at bus stops, on television (I switch channel, I support the BBC by not carping about the licence fee), in magazines (don't buy 'em), on the internet. Why? Because adverts give out a load of old guff about the best/most noteworthy bits of a product and leave me to find out about all the crappy bits/the truth by myself. Advertising is a pretty loathsome industry all round, really, with PR and marketing in general also both up there.

But how is this worse? Just because it's Mass Effect/Bioware/EA?

Edit: Also, I sincerely hope that Bioware does not go out of business. Does a better ending to their next game? Yes, please yes. Dies and never makes another game again ever because of some disappointing stuff in their last few titles and some disingenuous marketing by EA? Good God No. And some of the most extreme hyperbole on these boards seems to be trying to force them out of business.  That's some really hateful stuff there. 

Modifié par AllThatJazz, 15 avril 2012 - 02:34 .

[hagren]

It's an ad. From a marketing team. What do you expect? Do you really think the dev team from BioWare has anything to do with it? You should let your judgement age a little.

[vertigo72]

Retake retaken

[Oldbones2]

HEY OP,

Bioware doesn't need you. They have 75 perfect scores!

They don't need ANY of you!


cue dramatic music.

And now we fight!

[Drogonion]

One word for this. Denial.

This suggests to me that Bioware doesn't think the ending is actually a narrative failure - a mistake - but rather that it's just not very popular. That's a problem in the company, because it suggests that the folks who were in charge of using that ending are still in charge (when they shouldn't be).

I realize it is just advertisement, but for many fans like the OP it will feel like a slap in the face. Bioware is dishonestly using the notion of how the ending is "provoking" so much fan reaction. Endings can "provoke" thought from the player, or deep emotional empathy, or some other type of relevant cathartic emotional experience. Completely fail endings provide no catharsis and "provoke" outrage. Yes we say the endings in both cases "provoke" a reaction, but the two "provokings" cannot be more different, and it is dishonest to imply they are similar (as Bioware does in its advertisement).

Look, after 2772 ratings on Metacritic (for PC, which I play), ME3 has an abysmal 3.8 player score (though a critical score of 8.9). If that doesn't wake the company up from denial then little will.  (Hint: players will not buy 3.8 games unless they are in the discount heap.)

Modifié par Drogonion, 15 avril 2012 - 03:54 .