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[Dridengx]

Good luck trying to find a non bioware game for PC that has good characters and decent story that allows you a female main. not even people's beloved "skyrim" has 'good' characters. Face it, you guys need Bioware more than you want to admit. that's why you are still here

Modifié par Dridengx, 15 avril 2012 - 08:20 .

[paralitos]

diablo 3 is coming out!!

[KillerHappyFace]

Dragoni89 wrote...

People are hating on the combat system of DA:O? It fits the rpg genre. The skyrim combat system is something I hate=]. What is this? 1 Spell, 3 moves with the sword, easy mode?

My favorite fantasy gameplay was in Baldur's Gate. It was positively obtuse; no useable hotkeys whatsoever, no exact healthbars for enemies, no AoE indicators. But it worked really well.

My issues with the DA:O combat system are thus:
-Party AI with limited tactics slots. And REALLY stupid AI at that. BG 1 had better AI and it was a decade older!
-Balance issues. Mages >>>>>>>> every other class. Ranged weapons are worthless. Half of the skills are unusable.
-Having to carry around stacks of consumables. Consumables should be an emergency item, not the primary means of staying alive.

Most of all: it had KOTOR's gear system. Carrying around fifty kinds weapons and armor that you will never use is not a good thing. Level/stat requirements are not a good thing for non-MMOs. PS:T, BG, and IWD got inventory right. And then Bioware stumbled down the dark path of KOTOR. Fallout and Diablo are other good examples they could have heeded, but they seem fixated on the annoying and micromanagement-intensive.

Yes, it fits the RPG genre. I guess. But there are other RPG systems that are sooo much better.

As an aside, I agree with your distaste of Skyrim's gameplay. It was far too stripped down, plus it neutered magic.

Modifié par KillerHappyFace, 15 avril 2012 - 08:28 .

[M Hedonist]

Dridengx wrote...

Good luck trying to find a non bioware game for PC that has good characters and decent story that allows you a female main. not even people's beloved "skyrim" has 'good' characters. Face it, you guys need Bioware more than you want to admit. that's why you are still here

Despite everybody hating on Skyrim's characters I find Paarthurnax more interesting than any character in DA II.

[Dragoni89]

KingNothing125 wrote...

Dragoni89 wrote...

People are hating on the combat system of DA:O? It fits the rpg genre. The skyrim combat system is something I hate . What is this? 1 Spell, 3 moves with the sword, easy mode?

It is balanced so that if you just let things play out in realtime, your entire party gets ganked right away. Therefore you need to pause every 2 seconds to babysit your entire party... making it a weird mishmash of realtime and turn-based combat.

Plus, I'm playing as the Warden. I want to focus on the Warden... kinda like Mass Effect. I'm Shepard, I don't want to have to babysit Garrus and Ashley at the same time.

Werid we have different prefences. Yeah you do have to pause to plan out all your characters. But I still think it was very cool to be able to use everyone in you party. You basically get to play all the classes at one time. 

Modifié par Dragoni89, 15 avril 2012 - 08:34 .

[Dragoni89]

Sauruz wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

Good luck trying to find a non bioware game for PC that has good characters and decent story that allows you a female main. not even people's beloved "skyrim" has 'good' characters. Face it, you guys need Bioware more than you want to admit. that's why you are still here

Despite everybody hating on Skyrim's characters I find Paarthurnax more interesting than any character in DA II.

Funny how your forced into a situation wherre you have to kill him.
You can not to but no more Blades. Kind of stupid kill the only NPC that has any real dialogue in the game. Everyone else in Skyrim sucked, truth to be told.

Modifié par Dragoni89, 15 avril 2012 - 08:36 .

[The Angry One]

Sauruz wrote...

Despite everybody hating on Skyrim's characters I find Paarthurnax more interesting than any character in DA II.

I can't believe he's voiced by the same guy who does Mario.

Funny how your forced into a situation wherre you have to kill him. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/crying.png[/smilie]
You
can not to but no more Blades. Kind of stupid kill the only NPC that
has any real dialogue in the game. Everyone else in Skyrim sucked, truth
to be told.

The hell with the Blades. They were useless layabouts in Oblivion and they're even more useless and lazy in Skyrim.

Modifié par The Angry One, 15 avril 2012 - 08:39 .

[Kath]

 Guild Wars 2 comes out soon-ish. (They haven't given a date, but I'm guessing this summer.) If you pre-purchase the Digital Deluxe Edition or the Collector's Edition you can participate in all of the beta testing, which starts at the end of this month.  

[M Hedonist]

The Angry One wrote...

Sauruz wrote...

Despite everybody hating on Skyrim's characters I find Paarthurnax more interesting than any character in DA II.

I can't believe he's voiced by the same guy who does Mario.

I believe he actually does like 90% of the whole mario 'cast', lol.

[rivqa]

paralitos wrote...

diablo 3 is coming out!!

Heh,
it was Diablo that made me have to quit gaming in the 90s. I got
addicted to it and had to go cold turkey. It's a little ironic that it doesn't
appeal anymore, being essentially a dungeon crawler. I'm not sure about
III but maybe I'm being too picky.

Sauruz wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

Good luck trying to find a non bioware game for PC that has good characters and decent story that allows you a female main. not even people's beloved "skyrim" has 'good' characters. Face it, you guys need Bioware more than you want to admit. that's why you are still here

Despite everybody hating on Skyrim's characters I find Paarthurnax more interesting than any character in DA II.

Aw, the characters are probably the best thing in DA2.

[SupR G]

 Skyrim, and Witcher 2 is getting a 360 release on Tuesday. Definitely picking that one up.

[rivqa]

Dragoni89 wrote...

KingNothing125 wrote...

Dragoni89 wrote...

People are hating on the combat system of DA:O? It fits the rpg genre. The skyrim combat system is something I hate . What is this? 1 Spell, 3 moves with the sword, easy mode?

It is balanced so that if you just let things play out in realtime, your entire party gets ganked right away. Therefore you need to pause every 2 seconds to babysit your entire party... making it a weird mishmash of realtime and turn-based combat.

Plus, I'm playing as the Warden. I want to focus on the Warden... kinda like Mass Effect. I'm Shepard, I don't want to have to babysit Garrus and Ashley at the same time.

Werid we have different prefences. Yeah you do have to pause to plan out all your characters. But I still think it was very cool to be able to use everyone in you party. You basically get to play all the classes at one time. 

I didn't love it either. I guess I want to spend most of my time controlling the Warden and only jump to the others if they're doing something blatantly stupid. It doesn't help that the autolevelling (before you pick up the characters) is so bad. Once I started running around and picking everyone up ASAP and levelling them myself it was a little better.

[KillerHappyFace]

rivqa wrote...

Sauruz wrote...

Despite everybody hating on Skyrim's characters I find Paarthurnax more interesting than any character in DA II.

Aw, the characters are probably the best thing in DA2.

Agreed. I actually enjoyed DAII, and that was mostly due to the phenominal efforts of the cast. The only main character I dislike is Carver. I'd even place Merrill, Aveline, Varric, and Fenris above most of DA:O's cast.

EDIT: I'd like to add some things to the actual purpose of the thread. FFX is great, as is Chrono Trigger/ Chrono Cross.

Maybe grabbing a GBA emulator and playing some handheld games would help, too. Fire Emblem, Metroid: Fusion, Golden Sun, etc. The GBA had a number of suprisingly good games. While not strictly RPGs, they're something to consider.

Modifié par KillerHappyFace, 15 avril 2012 - 08:58 .

[Doctoglethorpe]

HAS to be female protagnonist?

Come oooooooon, just play Witcher already.  Do it. 

[TUHD]

Hm.... it's got an male main char, but... Alpha Protocol? Obsidian made, neat story, choices really have got influence (also a bit on the ending fights, and a bit on the ending sequence). Shooter/RPG
Edit: note: it still has it's flaws, but it's been improved since release. Too bad SEGA did decide there's no sequel 
Edit #2: Of course The Witcher 1&2 (although Geralt is a bit oversexed ), Skyrim, Borderlands, Deus Ex: Human Revolution (or the original Deus Ex) (both got male main chars though), KOTOR 1&2, Neverwinter Nights 1 and/or 2...

*is out of ideas*

Modifié par TUHD, 15 avril 2012 - 09:06 .

[KingKhan03]

SupR G wrote...

 Skyrim, and Witcher 2 is getting a 360 release on Tuesday. Definitely picking that one up.

The witcher 2 is coming out this tuesday on 360!?!?!?

[StElmo]

rivqa wrote...

OK, so I still can't bear to play ME at all. (See, I'm on topic!)

I've been playing Portal a bit but I really miss my RPGs. Anyone have any suggestions for non-Bioware RPGs for PC (or Mac)? My only requirements are: a female protagonist (no Witcher for me, I'll play it modded if I get desperate), decent story and decent characters.

Anyone? I've only recently got back into gaming after a very long hiatus, so chances are I won't have played anything you can think of.

Um if your over 18, the witcher 2 is supposedly amazing.

[KingKhan03]

How is the combat for witcher 2?

[Jadebaby]

The Angry One wrote...

PowerExtreme wrote...

honestly OP if you haven't played Fable: The lost Chapters you should, male lead in the first i think though, female possibility in the other 2.

the game has great atmosphere, style story is good and imo it is superior to it's sequels

Ahaha Fable.

Peter Molyneux: "You can make your character anything you want it to be!"

Me: "Anything?"

Peter Molyneux: "Anything."

Me: "Can I make a girl?"

Peter Molyneux: *trollface*

fable 3 you can be a girl, it was quite a good game I thought, but first fable i ever played so can't really compare.

[TUHD]

KingKhan03 wrote...

How is the combat for witcher 2?

Depending on your difficulty setting... more or less forgiving then TW1. It's enjoyable though

[KingKhan03]

TUHD wrote...

KingKhan03 wrote...

How is the combat for witcher 2?

Depending on your difficulty setting... more or less forgiving then TW1. It's enjoyable though

Thanks I'll probably check it out.

[Walzon]

has rpgish elements in it, but not really, but awesome sci-fi... DEAD SPACE and DEAD SPACE 2, one of my favorite games, also a behind the back shooter, except it has scare elements, different kind of "shooter", and an AWESOME main character and story.

[bleetman]

Knights of the Old Republic 2's worth playing, I'd say. It was a buggy, somewhat unfinished mess on release, but has since been whipped into a more acceptable state by its modding community. Install this at the least: it adds in a bunch of cut content, and actually makes the ending not terrible.

The Angry One wrote...

The hell with the Blades. They were useless layabouts in Oblivion and they're even more useless and lazy in Skyrim.

Urgh. Yes.

'Dragonborn, recover the tablet! Dragonborn, infiltrate the Thalmar! Dragonborn, do absolutely everything yourself.'

Modifié par bleetman, 15 avril 2012 - 09:04 .

[KingKhan03]

bleetman wrote...

Knights of the Old Republic 2's worth playing, I'd say. It was a buggy, somewhat unfinished mess on release, but has since been whipped into a more acceptable state by its modding community. Install this at the least: it adds in a bunch of cut content, and actually makes the ending not terrible.

The Angry One wrote...

The hell with the Blades. They were useless layabouts in Oblivion and they're even more useless and lazy in Skyrim.

Urgh. Yes.

'Dragonborn, recover the tablet! Dragonborn, infiltrate the Thalmar! Dragonborn, do absolutely everything yourself.'

LOL reminds me of Hackett in ME3

[UrgentArchengel]

Waiting for Prototype 2 on GameFly. Liked the first one so why not give this one a try.