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[tvman099]

RShara wrote...

HBK Dew Man wrote...

and the thanemancers. come on you knew he was going to die, he said it in ME 2 you saw it coming.

You also know that a suit puncture on Tali could result in deadly consequences. How'd that go for ya?

I also know that going into battle means you could get shot and die.

Neither of those are foregone conclusions. Thane dying in ME3 was. Conjuring up some way to make him live would be cheap.

[Mr.House]

tvman099 wrote...

RShara wrote...

HBK Dew Man wrote...

and the thanemancers. come on you knew he was going to die, he said it in ME 2 you saw it coming.

You also know that a suit puncture on Tali could result in deadly consequences. How'd that go for ya?

I also know that going into battle means you could get shot and die.

Neither of those are foregone conclusions. Thane dying in ME3 was. Conjuring up some way to make him live would be cheap.

Does not excuse the fact he has little content, only one romance convo, his death scene is not that diffrent if you romanced him and he does not even give you the romance achievment thus Bioware does not consider him a romance. Just because he will die does not mean you give him poor romance content.

Modifié par Mr.House, 16 avril 2012 - 01:37 .

[Deuterium_Dawn]

RShara wrote...

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

RShara wrote...

You also know that a suit puncture on Tali could result in deadly consequences. How'd that go for ya?

Uh, it went fine...

Yep that's my point.  Tali can take off her whole suit with the side effects being a bad cold, depsite your "KNOWING" that it should be deadly.

But Thanemancers should "KNOW" that Thane was dying and deal with it.

Quarians have a weakened immune system. Removing their suits is not automatically fatal. Thane had a terminal illness. I'm not saying Thane shouldn't have been handled better because he should have, but it's not the same thing.

[tvman099]

Mr.House wrote...

tvman099 wrote...

RShara wrote...

HBK Dew Man wrote...

and the thanemancers. come on you knew he was going to die, he said it in ME 2 you saw it coming.

You also know that a suit puncture on Tali could result in deadly consequences. How'd that go for ya?

I also know that going into battle means you could get shot and die.

Neither of those are foregone conclusions. Thane dying in ME3 was. Conjuring up some way to make him live would be cheap.

Does not excuse the fact he has little content, only one romance convo, his death scene is not that diffrent if you romanced him and he does not even give you the romance achievment thus Bioware does not consider him a romance. Just because he will die does not mean you give him poor romance content.

I agree, his death scene (among other things) should have played out differently if he was your LI. However, the feeling I'm getting from some of the posts in here is that he should've been cured or some such, which I think would be a terrible decision. Thane was always the dead man walking who finds redemption through Shepard in his final days. A heroic death in service to a good cause (whether during the Suicide Mission or protecting the salarian councilor (Kai Leng being a joke aside)) was always how I saw him going out.

Modifié par tvman099, 16 avril 2012 - 01:41 .

[Twilight_Princess]

tvman099 wrote...

RShara wrote...

HBK Dew Man wrote...

and the thanemancers. come on you knew he was going to die, he said it in ME 2 you saw it coming.

You also know that a suit puncture on Tali could result in deadly consequences. How'd that go for ya?

I also know that going into battle means you could get shot and die.

Neither of those are foregone conclusions. Thane dying in ME3 was. Conjuring up some way to make him live would be cheap.

Do you feel that the option to allow mordin to live cheapens his profound death on tuchunka? Or the fact that Thane can replace Kirrahe cheapens that character's sacrifice? And "conjure" implies you think we're asking for a cure to be pulled out of thin air instead of, you know...using the hinted possible treatments in ME2.

[o Ventus]

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

o Ventus wrote...


Fully agree. Thane's romance (Though I've never done it myself, have seen it though) in ME3 feels... almost backwards. In ME2, I remember him rescinding his aloofness towards death, since he found reason to live again in FemShep. Now he's back to not giving a crap.

THIS HUMAN UNDERSTANDS!

Sorry, it's just so refreshing to see non-romancers who get the Thane problem! There aren't enough of you.

Hehe. Thane is my favorite male alien.

[RShara]

sedrikhcain wrote...

RShara wrote...

RShara wrote...

HBK Dew Man wrote...
and the thanemancers. come on you knew he was going to die, he said it in ME 2 you saw it coming.

You also know that a suit puncture on Tali could result in deadly consequences. How'd that go for ya?

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

strive wrote...
@RShara
Tali and Garrus are fan service romances. They get to bend the rules to whatever appeals the masses.

Miranda's entire character was designed as fanservice from the start, as was the entire asari race The only difference is that it wasn't actually asked for, nor done as well.

Honestly, so was Thane's.  He was designed from the ground up as a Female LI.  They had multiple input
from women who worked at BW and everything.  He was one of the poster children in 2.
Then they trampled and forgot him in 3 *sigh*

When it's something someone else wants, it's fan service. When it's something you want, it's vital to the game.
Not speaking to you or anyone else in particular, Rshara, just making a general observation.

sedrikhcain wrote...
that wasn't howieloader, that was me.

I wish I could do the multiquote thing more easily...

I don't disagree that Thane was fanservice.  I don't mind fanservice.  I mind when it's blatant favorites-only fanservice 

Could you clarify which part was yours?

Modifié par RShara, 16 avril 2012 - 01:49 .

[Chernaya]

I thought the romance scenes were better. I wasn't for the awkward fondling thing you could do in 2.

[RShara]

tvman099 wrote...

RShara wrote...

HBK Dew Man wrote...

and the thanemancers. come on you knew he was going to die, he said it in ME 2 you saw it coming.

You also know that a suit puncture on Tali could result in deadly consequences. How'd that go for ya?

I also know that going into battle means you could get shot and die.

Neither of those are foregone conclusions. Thane dying in ME3 was. Conjuring up some way to make him live would be cheap.

I'm not going to get into an argument here because this should be about all the LI's not just Thane's

But a greatly weakened immune system--weakened to the point where you have to wear a full-enviro-suit--and a small puncture gives you a fever--means that complete body exposure...not to mention intimate contact with a bacteria laden surface...has a high probability to be deadly.

And Thane is dying because they haven't found a cure yet.  There were several hints that a cure or at least a life-extending treatment were either immediately possible or on the horizon.

[o Ventus]

EionaCousland wrote...

I thought the romance scenes were better. I wasn't for the awkward fondling thing you could do in 2.

Except none of them in ME2 were "Awkward fondling".

Well, maybe Jacob's. FemShep went into maximum Cougar-drive with that one.

[Chakuura]

I liked the liara romance, and I think the Kaidan/femshep (have yet to play mshep and Kaidan) was really well done, I haven't played an Ashley romance but I'd assume it's about on par with Kaidan at least. All the me2 love interests, with the exception of Tali and Garrus seem to be really skimmed over. I was really annoyed with how the Thane romance played out, I expected him to die, but I expected there to be a difference between a Shepard who romanced him and a shep who didn't. Thane seemed to have renewed reason to live in the end of me2 because of his romance with Shepard but in me3 he just seems....indifferent, it's really offputting.

[Chernaya]

Yeah, Thane's death pretty much turned me off from ever wanting to romance him in 2 like I had planned to do... :/ The way they did that... and then Jacob. Poor Femsheps.

[tvman099]

RShara wrote...

tvman099 wrote...

RShara wrote...

HBK Dew Man wrote...

and the thanemancers. come on you knew he was going to die, he said it in ME 2 you saw it coming.

You also know that a suit puncture on Tali could result in deadly consequences. How'd that go for ya?

I also know that going into battle means you could get shot and die.

Neither of those are foregone conclusions. Thane dying in ME3 was. Conjuring up some way to make him live would be cheap.

I'm not going to get into an argument here because this should be about all the LI's not just Thane's

But a greatly weakened immune system--weakened to the point where you have to wear a full-enviro-suit--and a small puncture gives you a fever--means that complete body exposure...not to mention intimate contact with a bacteria laden surface...has a high probability to be deadly.

And Thane is dying because they haven't found a cure yet.  There were several hints that a cure or at least a life-extending treatment were either immediately possible or on the horizon.

You mean a single reference to a hanar genetic modification research project that Thane says definitely won't be done until well after he's dead?

[Chernaya]

o Ventus wrote...

EionaCousland wrote...

I thought the romance scenes were better. I wasn't for the awkward fondling thing you could do in 2.

Except none of them in ME2 were "Awkward fondling".

Well, maybe Jacob's. FemShep went into maximum Cougar-drive with that one.

I'm talking about how you could just go up to them at any time in the cabin and just lay there next to them, fondling them. It is just weird, in my opinion, lol. You don't have to think it's awkward, but I did. :x

Then again, the romance cutscenes in 2 for the most part are all cut short, as well. At least they aren't as long as my romance scenes in 1 & 3 with Kaidan. Not that I'm complaining,I don't really mind. I just much prefer the way it was in 1 & 3.

[Jadebaby]

The Angry One wrote...

revo76 wrote...

they needed more time for Diana Allers, some Star-kid.
 

Don't forget Blasto. Gee I'm sure glad resources were distributed so well.

Yeah yeah some people love Blasto, but come on. He's a meme. It would be like Bethesda devoting 20 minutes of dialogue to arrow in the knee jokes.

I know this is a lil late, but I am so glad I wasn;t the only one who thought this was a waste of time. They shoud've played that 1st little segment about him blowing up the building and thats it. My 1st playthrough i just walked away after the 2nd segment, I cannot believe that went on for 20 minutes!
Went back 2nd playthrough to see what all the fuss was about.. The only thing I even giggled at was "badassly".

everything else waas . Especially when you think about the romances, blasto was a slap in the face.

[RShara]

tvman099 wrote...

RShara wrote...

tvman099 wrote...

RShara wrote...

HBK Dew Man wrote...

and the thanemancers. come on you knew he was going to die, he said it in ME 2 you saw it coming.

You also know that a suit puncture on Tali could result in deadly consequences. How'd that go for ya?

I also know that going into battle means you could get shot and die.

Neither of those are foregone conclusions. Thane dying in ME3 was. Conjuring up some way to make him live would be cheap.

I'm not going to get into an argument here because this should be about all the LI's not just Thane's

But a greatly weakened immune system--weakened to the point where you have to wear a full-enviro-suit--and a small puncture gives you a fever--means that complete body exposure...not to mention intimate contact with a bacteria laden surface...has a high probability to be deadly.

And Thane is dying because they haven't found a cure yet.  There were several hints that a cure or at least a life-extending treatment were either immediately possible or on the horizon.

You mean a single reference to a hanar genetic modification research project that Thane says definitely won't be done until well after he's dead?

Read the first post here:  http://social.biowar...5/index/9749360 for details

[AxeloftheKey]

Some of the romances took a nosedive. The Tali one is great, except I wanted an option for my Shepard to ask about her early on. You don't get her 'til later, and at that point it's like she didn't exist to my Shepard, who was definitely already in love with her, based on how ME1 and 2 went. So like, that bugged me.

The way they handled the love triangles was bull**** if you romanced an ME2 person. You get confronted once by another LI, like Liara, and asked if you want to be with them. You can say yes, then you are. But when you get to talk to the ME2 romance again, they ask you what you want. If you say yes to them, the other person you said yes to ends without a conversation. Happened to me with Liara and Miranda, I was pissed. I expected to have a catfight, but no. I said yes to Liara, then yes to Miranda, and I was stuck with Miranda and Liara had one random dialogue spout to mention it when I went to talk to her. I was annoyed that the game doesn't let you know. I realize they're making it realistic in a sense, but Liara shouldn't just automatically figure it out. That was pretty stupid.

[o Ventus]

EionaCousland wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

EionaCousland wrote...

I thought the romance scenes were better. I wasn't for the awkward fondling thing you could do in 2.

Except none of them in ME2 were "Awkward fondling".

Well, maybe Jacob's. FemShep went into maximum Cougar-drive with that one.

I'm talking about how you could just go up to them at any time in the cabin and just lay there next to them, fondling them. It is just weird, in my opinion, lol. You don't have to think it's awkward, but I did. :x

Then again, the romance cutscenes in 2 for the most part are all cut short, as well. At least they aren't as long as my romance scenes in 1 & 3 with Kaidan. Not that I'm complaining,I don't really mind. I just much prefer the way it was in 1 & 3.

I don't know about any of the other romances, but there was no awkward fondling with Miranda. I will admit though, the lap-sitting on Shepard's couch was... weird. Not creepy or anything, just... weird. Like, you'd never see two people doing that in real life. The snuggling on the bed I thought was adorable, but I digress.

To each their own.

[Mr.House]

AxeloftheKey wrote...

Some of the romances took a nosedive. The Tali one is great, except I wanted an option for my Shepard to ask about her early on. You don't get her 'til later, and at that point it's like she didn't exist to my Shepard, who was definitely already in love with her, based on how ME1 and 2 went. So like, that bugged me.

The way they handled the love triangles was bull**** if you romanced an ME2 person. You get confronted once by another LI, like Liara, and asked if you want to be with them. You can say yes, then you are. But when you get to talk to the ME2 romance again, they ask you what you want. If you say yes to them, the other person you said yes to ends without a conversation. Happened to me with Liara and Miranda, I was pissed. I expected to have a catfight, but no. I said yes to Liara, then yes to Miranda, and I was stuck with Miranda and Liara had one random dialogue spout to mention it when I went to talk to her. I was annoyed that the game doesn't let you know. I realize they're making it realistic in a sense, but Liara shouldn't just automatically figure it out. That was pretty stupid.

Yes because women should always fight over a men.

[Mr.House]

o Ventus wrote...

EionaCousland wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

EionaCousland wrote...

I thought the romance scenes were better. I wasn't for the awkward fondling thing you could do in 2.

Except none of them in ME2 were "Awkward fondling".

Well, maybe Jacob's. FemShep went into maximum Cougar-drive with that one.

I'm talking about how you could just go up to them at any time in the cabin and just lay there next to them, fondling them. It is just weird, in my opinion, lol. You don't have to think it's awkward, but I did. :x

Then again, the romance cutscenes in 2 for the most part are all cut short, as well. At least they aren't as long as my romance scenes in 1 & 3 with Kaidan. Not that I'm complaining,I don't really mind. I just much prefer the way it was in 1 & 3.

I don't know about any of the other romances, but there was no awkward fondling with Miranda. I will admit though, the lap-sitting on Shepard's couch was... weird. Not creepy or anything, just... weird. Like, you'd never see two people doing that in real life. The snuggling on the bed I thought was adorable, but I digress.

To each their own.

No but Miranda had the horrible engien room.

Modifié par Mr.House, 16 avril 2012 - 02:06 .

[Alex1412]

I don't think they took a step back but didn't move at all. I seriously expected that people would share room with their LI, fights between your LI from me1 and me2, more sexy time with them if you were loyal and if you didn't, at least a little kissing here and there, to have as squadmate your LI from me2. NOT THE SAME DAMN THING OF THE PREVIOUS GAMES, normal conversation, being asked if you want to be "x" person and sleeping with "x" before the last mission. I shouldn't care 'cause I didn't romance anybody, but as a fan of mass effect, I hoped that me3 would be perfect, for me and for everyone.

[Filby08]

I've only done the Garrus romance, and I do feel spoilt compared to the other femshep options. In almost every dialogue with him, the romance was hinted at if only a little - unless of course Garrus tells broshep he "needs" them during that short conversation on the docks, or there is some platonic face caressing when Garrus is worried for his family. I don't think I will ever NOT romance Garrus to find out.

I appreciate and adore the romances, but this is not a dating sim. It does not need to be referenced in every conversation. Shep is trying to save the galaxy here, there are more important things to talk about than who sneaks into her cabin during her off hours.

But yeah, some of the less popular romances got shafted (and not in the good way). That was a bad call on Bioware's part, and as far as Liara goes, ME3 was the first game where I felt like my femshep didn't need to carry a rape whistle with her.

[sedrikhcain]

RShara wrote...

Could you clarify which part was yours?

I wrote this: My biggest problem with that fight was that master assassin Thane had KL dead to rights at point-blank range and hesitated so badly that he never even got a shot off before KL disarmed him. Someone will immediately argue that Thane was sick and it slowed him down but a) by the time KL turned to look, Thane's gun was almost touching him. Someone as skilled as Thane would've executed KL way before then. Thane was well enough after KL isarmed him to spar with the guy and knock him to the ground with a quick, precise combo. So if his illness slowed him down at first, it certainly didn't just a few seconds later.

... which somehow got clipped. Yeah, the quoting system gets cumbersome very quickly. Oh well.

[Shawn Marrster]

AxeloftheKey wrote...

Some of the romances took a nosedive. The Tali one is great, except I wanted an option for my Shepard to ask about her early on. You don't get her 'til later, and at that point it's like she didn't exist to my Shepard, who was definitely already in love with her, based on how ME1 and 2 went. So like, that bugged me.

The way they handled the love triangles was bull**** if you romanced an ME2 person. You get confronted once by another LI, like Liara, and asked if you want to be with them. You can say yes, then you are. But when you get to talk to the ME2 romance again, they ask you what you want. If you say yes to them, the other person you said yes to ends without a conversation. Happened to me with Liara and Miranda, I was pissed. I expected to have a catfight, but no. I said yes to Liara, then yes to Miranda, and I was stuck with Miranda and Liara had one random dialogue spout to mention it when I went to talk to her. I was annoyed that the game doesn't let you know. I realize they're making it realistic in a sense, but Liara shouldn't just automatically figure it out. That was pretty stupid.

One of the funniest things in Dragon Age Origins was when you where cheating on your love interest. The cat fight banter if they where in the same party was hilarious. 
When your love interest confronted you could persuade her that she is just imagening thinks. 
I had so fun. I wish ME had the same thing. Shepard can handle 2 LI.