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[SuperVulcan]

Romancing Ashley in ME 1 was so awesome, to me, it was the best romance in any ME game.

[Drogonion]

I think so. But they did a lot of other things right (except the ending). Such as the voice acting, which was just stellar, and the directing (camera placement and scene selection to keep the narrative rolling were top-notch). I'm still boggled however about how anyone with any sensitivity to narrative could think that ending was a fitting resolution to the ME story arc.

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

People must really have their nostalgia glasses on if they think that all the ME3 romances were inferior to how they were in previous installments; I know mine wasn't. Then again, I did the only romance that managed to keep the same writer through multiple games, so maybe that has something to do with it. *shrugs*

Modifié par Mr. Big Pimpin, 15 avril 2012 - 03:20 .

[Arppis]

I have to say, I was dissapointed in Ashley's dialogue on board Normandy, she didn't really interact with anyone and just said some random things that made no sense. And then she came to Shepard's room and shaged him.

[MinatheBrat]

RShara wrote...


Picture analysis of KL vs Thane

Oh I really like your analysis! And I totally agree. Thane would have had Leng dead before Leng knew he was there- if they were staying true to Thane's character and skills.
However, they wanted the Thane vs Leng fight and Thane getting stabbed for their story purposes. <_<

Modifié par MinatheBrat, 15 avril 2012 - 03:23 .

[cogsandcurls]

sedrikhcain wrote...

RShara wrote...

6 months
Shepard was incarcerated for trying to save the galaxy. She couldn't write or call.
Very short time to hook up and impregnate another girl...

You do realize they were together for all of about two weeks while trying to stop the Collectors, right? And how do you know Shepard couldn't write or call?

I just think this Cheater thing is a little silly. They're hookup was a total fling and people are acting like they're married and he had an affair.

Brynn (Jacob's new gf) seems to not think it was a fling. She outright says to a romancing FemShep "I won't lie. I went after him. But...he still loves you." That is her actual dialogue.

[MinatheBrat]

mrbthq wrote...

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Man, almost everything took a step back. Dialogue(and indirectly romances), exploration, freedom/non-linearity, character writing/motivations, theme(largely in the ending, but elsewhere as well), etc, etc, etc.

Only thing that seemed to take a step forward was gameplay, and only in certain ways(no more vehicle combat or mini-games, the shooting/cover aspects were pretty much perfected but they seem to have jsut given up on the rest).

This.

I agree with this. ME3 gets very bossy- it "shows" you what your Shepard is doing and takes alot out of your control, you don't get to drive your character, no exploration, side-games, etc.

[Deuterium_Dawn]

I don't know where people are getting this two weeks thing. Miranda and Jacob are the first squadmates you pick up, before you recruit anyone, before Horizon, the Collector Ship, and the Reaper IFF. No one has ever gotten through the Omega-4 relay before and I really doubt Cerberus found out how to do it and made it work in two weeks. And since the crew seems to have dispersed just prior to Shep handing over the Normandy, I think Jacob knew where Shep was and the circumstances she was in. He's still an ****.

Modifié par Deuterium_Dawn, 15 avril 2012 - 03:30 .

[Vexille]

"Scumbag Jacob"

hears you are under house arrest, gets another chick pregnant instead of writing e-mail

Modifié par Vexille, 15 avril 2012 - 03:36 .

[Mathias]

Ashleymancer

I enjoyed the romance with Ashley in ME3 a lot. If you romanced her and treat her good, she lays off the Cerberus thing very quickly. The problem arises during the second half of the game where she barely has any ship dialogue and banter with the squad. She felt so distant. Even Kaiden, her male counterpart had more lines than her.

[soulprovider]

 liaramancers have it better

what aboue ashleymancers

See them for 1 mission have to reaffirm three times over that you still like them  and that your human(and don't get me going on the racism bs in ME1 you actualy could change her mind just like navigator pressly) and then she gets removed from most of the game for the most part you then have to visit her in the hospital three times only to have her not trust you against and have to paragon her to get her to shoot udina lastly have to convince her again one more time to get the romance back on......what the hell, it was like you know what have your fun i'm done.

Modifié par soulprovider, 15 avril 2012 - 04:07 .

[Biotic_Warlock]

The anti-gay Kaidan posting i dissaprove of.
I fail to see how a manshep/kaidan romance is a problem...

[Phaedros]

They always promise more than they deliver...

Never really " Follow through" .. you know... ?

[sedrikhcain]

cogsandcurls wrote...

sedrikhcain wrote...

RShara wrote...

6 months
Shepard was incarcerated for trying to save the galaxy. She couldn't write or call.
Very short time to hook up and impregnate another girl...

You do realize they were together for all of about two weeks while trying to stop the Collectors, right? And how do you know Shepard couldn't write or call?

I just think this Cheater thing is a little silly. They're hookup was a total fling and people are acting like they're married and he had an affair.

Brynn (Jacob's new gf) seems to not think it was a fling. She outright says to a romancing FemShep "I won't lie. I went after him. But...he still loves you." That is her actual dialogue.

She sounds very insecure.

Look, I just think it's poorly done, as a symptom of the way all the romantic arcs are set up. They play up this whole "remain loyal" thing and then, whether you do that or not, the payoff in ME3 is left wanting. So while I know Jacob comes off as a real jerk, I actually think that -- given the circumstances -- the way his plotline plays out is a little closer to realistic than the way they wrote most of the others.

[Dead_Meat357]

I never got those impressions at all. Liara is a smart girl. Their reunion was friendly enough under the circumstances. When you get to the Normandy, if you've corrected the import bug for Lair of the Shadow Broker's Liara Normandy Tour value or not, Liara is clearly still into Shepard, but knows it's been 6 months or even longer depending on how you did things since they've been together. She doesn't pressure Shepard into making any decision on Mars or the Citadel but she's always been blunt and upfront in general. So she simply asks what you want on the Normandy when there is a lull in the craziness. If you tell her you are interested she warms up right away.

Her behavior later in which she gives Shep a peck on the lips and sits in his or her lap also tells me that she's pretty much your girlfriend. The Citadel date scene I took as her attempt at humor (as she doesn't really have a sense of humor, it comes off wrong) as well as the game technically giving you one more chance to back out and avoid locking into a relationship with her. Furthering the point about it being her attempt at humor, Shepard says: "Friends doesn't cut it for me anymore Liara." She replies; "Sounds serious." Shepard retorts; "I am serious." Then she says; "Your lucky then that I feel the same way." I'm paraphrasing somewhat but you get the idea.

I found it odd that she has her own quarters, but again she probably stays up staring at those monitors until all hours of the morning, and may not wish to disturb Shepard. Plus, lots of couples don't live together right away. There could be implications of it being done for appearances etc. She may not have wanted to be "shacked up" with the Commanding Officer more for his sake than hers. The simple truth of the matter is it was probably a matter of game programing more than anything. There needs to be a certain interchangeability with scenes and dialog. Having her shacked up with Shepard if you romanced her in ME1 creates some challenges in that regard. It also makes a little less sense if you are starting a relationship with her in ME3. While I think there is always a certain closeness or bond between then, you don't really have any kind of relationship until the end of the game. So she needed her own space up until that point.

Your romance never moved in with you in the other games either.

sedrikhcain wrote...

cogsandcurls wrote...

sedrikhcain wrote...

RShara wrote...

6 months
Shepard was incarcerated for trying to save the galaxy. She couldn't write or call.
Very short time to hook up and impregnate another girl...

You
do realize they were together for all of about two weeks while trying
to stop the Collectors, right? And how do you know Shepard couldn't
write or call?

I just think this Cheater thing is a little silly.
They're hookup was a total fling and people are acting like they're
married and he had an affair.

Brynn (Jacob's new gf)
seems to not think it was a fling. She outright says to a romancing
FemShep "I won't lie. I went after him. But...he still loves you." That
is her actual dialogue.

She sounds very insecure.

Look,
I just think it's poorly done, as a symptom of the way all the romantic
arcs are set up. They play up this whole "remain loyal" thing and then,
whether you do that or not, the payoff in ME3 is left wanting. So while
I know Jacob comes off as a real jerk, I actually think that -- given
the circumstances -- the way his plotline plays out is a little closer
to realistic than the way they wrote most of the others.

Personally I liked the fact that some of your romances couldn't be continued. Either due to your actions or due to the characters just being ****ty people, or due to circumstances like being terminally ill. It isn't as though Thane's illness wasn't known about in Mass Effect 2. Anyone who chose him had to know this was possible. Jacob was out of left field,
but I think it was more of a decision which allowed BioWare to relegate a character which wasn't popular to a cameo
role rather than devote time and money to dialog and extra material with him.

From a character perspective I liked it because it showed that he wasn't as honorable and upstanding as he pretended to be. It also makes me think of what he said about his relationship with Miranda prior to ME2. He said; "She deserves a better man than I." Given how Jacob is about the bigger issues in life, it made you wonder what he did to her and why their relationship ended. So his cheating wasn't really all that surprising to me, and found it to be the single most interesting thing that character has ever done in all his appearances.

Modifié par Dead_Meat357, 15 avril 2012 - 04:26 .

[OchreJelly]

Sparatus wrote...

If you didn't romance Kaidan, Ashley, Garrus, Tali, Liara, Steve, or Samantha then yes. They took a lot of steps back. Two of the romances don't even count as romances anymore. They just end.

Otherwise, I think they were the best handled romances in the series (not saying much. But they are better)

In general, yes, but they could have done so much more to create proper emotional impact. I don't know if I fault the writers for it as in general most of the characters were very well written, but lacking some very intrinsic differences for romances. I still maintain that they should not have played them as if they were restarting their relationships (if importing, that is) or that they didn't exist at all until they show up (I keep saying it, Tali and others could have sent a simple email right away because I was for sure wondering why Shep had zero concerns about them.)

Perhaps people are being "picky" about things but I think the characters are the majority reason people play BioWare games these days. They could have upped their game and made it the best yet for interaction, but they played it safe and didn't add much extra content for those who pursued a particular track.

In light of my feelings about the ending, it'd probably have hurt more if they had created a wonderful emotional payoff with the characters, though.

[CronoDragoon]

For what it's worth I have only played through once and was 100% satisfied with my Tali romance, but I know that basically any non-squadmates got a little screwed.

[MisterJB]

Grimwick wrote...
Yeah Liara doesn't actually have that much... 
Simply because you got less doesn't mean we can't complain too! 

Did not have much?
There is almost more focus on Liara and her romance than on the Reaper threat.

[wickedgoodreed]

Have to say that I agree with the OP. I remember repeatedly thinking that I must have said or done something wrong with Liara during my first playthrough because she kept referring to Shepard as "friend." Previous experience had taught me that "friend" is code for "not romance" so it set off alarm bells that kept me from just appreciating the content for what is was, particularly the (otherwise brilliant) time capsule scene.

So, yeah, I was confused as to where the relationship stood for a big chunk of the game, which really shouldn't have been an issue for a loyal Shepard. The payoff at the end more than makes up for it, but...I can't imagine confusion is what the writers were going for.

[Stalker]

Complainers about Liara's romance... I don't know what to say...

[Mara Shep]

For me the Garrus romance was done perfectly - even outside of the main romance scenes, your relationship was referred to. He comforts you when you are feeling down, makes sure you are getting sleep, hell, you even get a special hand squeeze when you first meet on Menae. Even on the Citadel he when you are talking about the Turian refugees with him, he says "because I need you."

I think it connects all the main romance scenes very well, so they don't seem random and out of place. The writers did an excellent job with him.

[Gterror2]

She doesnt need to be in the cabin, she has cameras all over Shepard's cabin..even in the bathroom.

[Karrie788]

Mara Shep wrote...

For me the Garrus romance was done perfectly - even outside of the main romance scenes, your relationship was referred to. He comforts you when you are feeling down, makes sure you are getting sleep, hell, you even get a special hand squeeze when you first meet on Menae. Even on the Citadel he when you are talking about the Turian refugees with him, he says "because I need you."

I think it connects all the main romance scenes very well, so they don't seem random and out of place. The writers did an excellent job with him.

I agree. I have many problems with the game but my romance with Garrus wasn't one of them.
I know some people complain about the sex scene but I thought it was more than enough. I don't want to see them awkwardly rolling around in their underwear. Especially when it's Garrus. Besides, the fact that he was doing some of her work on her datapad andthat he immediately went to sit next to her when she woke up, in addition to giving her that adoring look and saying "what's bothering you?" two seconds later, made it a flawless scene IMO.

[spacehamsterZH]

Mr Massakka wrote...

Complainers about Liara's romance... I don't know what to say...

We have a... sizeable portion of the populace here that is under the mistaken impression that the Mass Effect games are actually a series of dating sims, and they won't be satisfied until every single line of dialogue revolves around who they "romanced".