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[BladyMZ]

So we all know how... effective Tali-fans were after ME1, how it shaped her character in ME2, opened a romantic option with her, etc.

But surely Bioware noticed how popular Miranda has become - yes, some see her only as eye candy, but others really like her ME2 role - the voice acting, the "renegade" path for LI, the Shadow Broker files.

I knew from the very beggining, that not every character from ME2 will play a big role in ME3 - heck, its a miracle they even bothered with Zaeed and Jacob. 

I am happy for all the Talimancers that got this great character onboard Normandy, but with all the other excuses we hear from ME2 characters to why they can't join you, getting Miranda only as War Asset, when Quarian ADMIRAL is aboard the SR2 is just... weird.

I really liked how she had to take care of family matters during ME3 events, it created great tension, but not having her on Normandy after Santuary - come on, I don't need her on missions, but at least give her Wrex/Legion role in War Room.

Having Shepard wake up alone before the final mission, and not having a Miranda flashback... Bioware, that was just lazy and wrong. There should be a new word for that. Lazong. Yes. It was LAZONG.

TL;DR Moar Miranda, less dreaming about kid getting lost in the woods when fog-creatures from Shadow of the Colossus roam looking for a park bench that is not wet with speculations.

[Chromatix]

Bioware, that was just lazy and wrong. There should be a new word for that. Lazong. Yes. It was LAZONG.

Oh yes, say it to us Samaritans. You at least get something.


Bioware doesn't care about anyone except Liara T'Canoni (Mass Effect 3: If you're not romancing Liara, you're doing it wrong.)

Modifié par Chromatix, 15 avril 2012 - 12:36 .

[Chromatix]

Double post.

Modifié par Chromatix, 15 avril 2012 - 12:35 .

[BladyMZ]

Well, I had a Shepard file from ME2 who wanted to see, if there is some future for him and Samara in ME3 - poor guy But remember, no-one saw Kelly or Samara as LI in ME2 when it came out. They just added few lines for the small and loyal group of their fans. Miranda is like a popstar on BSN and yet...

[kookie28]

Most ME2 characters got shafted in some way. I think we can all agree on that.

[BatmanPWNS]

The reason they didn't put Miranda was because of Ash. They made them both "The sexy woman" (Though it's opinion based but Bioware was trying to make them both sexy) and the Action girl. It's not the greatest reason to not include her but, yeah, there you go!

[Stalker]

Yes.
From what I have seen, she is the most popular romance option after Tali/Garrus and Liara, in most polls even before Ashley/Kaidan. She is very important to the lore itself and well appreciated throughout the fan-base.

I don't see too many reasons for such a side-lining. She would deserve her own LotSB DLC.

Modifié par Mr Massakka, 15 avril 2012 - 01:44 .

[Toki]

I don't see why you can't have Ashley and Miranda.... You had four humans in ME2, I don't see shy you can't have 3... I think that Miranda should have joined you after Sanctuary, provided that she survived, as I don't really see where else she would go... I think it would be suiting for her to join, especially to go to the Cerberus base.

I miss Miranda... I find her one of the stronger characters. Too bad, they shafted basically the entire ME2 crew, so I wasn't surprised.

[Armdin]

BladyMZ wrote...
TL;DR Moar Miranda, less dreaming about kid getting lost in the woods when fog-creatures from Shadow of the Colossus roam looking for a park bench that is not wet with speculations.

Your post was nowhere near long enough to warrent a TL;DR, but it made me laugh anyway.

My Two Pennies: There are far more past squaddies who deserved more attention in ME3. Miranda, I felt, had just enough. She being all secretive until near the arse end where you get to help her "resolve" her family issues once and for all. And the fact her story tied in with the main story was brilliant.

That is, of course, unless you romanced her. Then it was lacking. But it's still better than what others got (Jacob) and is probably on par with the squaddies who didn't return as such in ME3.

PS: Personally, I feel all of the old squaddies should have had their 5-minute-moment-in-the-sun during the last battle. As Shepard races to the beam he/she is aided by their old comrades that crop up from time to time. Would have been *awesome*.

Modifié par Armdin, 15 avril 2012 - 01:59 .

[leighzard]

BladyMZ wrote...
I knew from the very beggining, that not every character from ME2 will play a big role in ME3 - heck, its a miracle they even bothered with Zaeed and Jacob.

Hey, don't lump everyone's favorite big gorram hero, with that bland workout freak.

I don't really see why Miranda can't come back.  I didn't romance her, but she's a great squadmate - love her power set.  You'd think the ridiculous length of her support thread would have given them a hint that she'd be a welcome addition to the Normandy.

[Warior135]

Why does bio-ware love liara?

TBQH, I dont really like her, Shes ok as like an older-sister but nothing more.

[Bob Walker]

Besides all that, she is Sarah from Chuck.

[Skullheart]

Well, the main problems with Miranda are:

- After Sanctuary she doesn't do anything. Oriana is safre after that, she doesn't have reason for not boarding the Normandy, but she doesn't join because.... bw neural decay.

- The lack of Cerberus plot with her. She worked with them for 20 years, great part of her life, but she doesn't have any comment about their new direction. I wanted her to be in the attack to TIM's base. She needs a confrontation with TIM.

- The lack of confrontatioon with her father, the man who tormented her all her life. It's disappointing that she has more dialogue with Niket in ME2. In ME3 its just "no deal." There isn't a real confrontation.

- Relation with another characters. She doesn't have any lines to any character excpet Shepard and Oriana. I wanted her to be in the same room with Jack to see their banter. And I expected a discussion with hher and Ash if Shepard romanced both, that was suppossed to be like a clash betwen ice and fire.

- The lack of a proper romance scene and a pillow talk. That's the only thing the romance doesn't have. And the romance feel rushed (before Sanctuary?). She should habe boraded the Normandy and have the romance there, before going to TIM's base like the rest of the favored romances. And I won'0t say anything about the flashback fiasco, that the final middle finger from bw.


But Bioware wanted to screw all the romances from ME2, and they really wanted Miranda dead.

[CptData]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

The reason they didn't put Miranda was because of Ash. They made them both "The sexy woman" (Though it's opinion based but Bioware was trying to make them both sexy) and the Action girl. It's not the greatest reason to not include her but, yeah, there you go!

Not really.
Miri-fans would still be disappointed if Miranda would have treated like Ashley. First half of game = great. Second half of game = wtf why's not talking to me?

All romances got shafted in one or the other way.

BTW: I would loved to see Miranda & Ashley talking together. There is a high friendship potential, but also one that means a lot of icy & catty moments at the beginning. Think putting both into the same game would make some great dialogues.

[CroGamer002]

And I find it strange too since people claim EA was controlling ME3 writting.
I mean I remember John Riccitiello, Chief Executive Officer of Electronic Arts, saying Miranda is his favorite.

Wouldn't he want more of Miranda in ME3?


I guess that blows out "EA ruined ME3" conspiracy theory then.

[kookie28]

Mesina2 wrote...

And I find it strange too since people claim EA was controlling ME3 writting.
I mean I remember John Riccitiello, Chief Executive Officer of Electronic Arts, saying Miranda is his favorite.

Wouldn't he want more of Miranda in ME3?


I guess that blows out "EA ruined ME3" conspiracy theory then.

And I'm sure he likes money more. Rushing the game out is worth more to them than a good game. Look at Madden.

[cbutz]

Yea, Miranda had alot of potential going into the game. They did not use that potential. It was all family stuff. What did she think about Cerberus? How does she feel about the advancement of humanity?
She should have joined you after Sanctuary, perhaps as a Wrex/Legon/Tali role. Kind of like the Cerberus act, whereas the previous ones were Genophage and Quarian/Geth acts. She should have been involved in the Cronus station attack as well.
But yea the ME 2 squad got screwed over.

[CroGamer002]

kookie28 wrote...
And I'm sure he likes money more. Rushing the game out is worth more to them than a good game. Look at Madden.

*looks at EA stocks*

Nope.

[MACharlie1]

Mesina2 wrote...

And I find it strange too since people claim EA was controlling ME3 writting.
I mean I remember John Riccitiello, Chief Executive Officer of Electronic Arts, saying Miranda is his favorite.

Wouldn't he want more of Miranda in ME3?


I guess that blows out "EA ruined ME3" conspiracy theory then.

She did get more screen time then any other ME2 character. I'm guessing he had a look at Ms. Strahovski's paycheck. 

But after Thessia (strangely, after Liara is done being useful and plot relevant) the games cracks become more apparent. Sanctuary was obviously rushed and had almost no squad banter and was basically just a rush through a building fighting husks. I had to replay the sequence to get what was going on. I mean, at least show Miranda and Kai-Leng fighting - don't tell us. Show don't tell. 

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

MACharlie1 wrote...

She did get more screen time then any other ME2 character.

Didn't Legion and Mordin get more?

[MACharlie1]

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

She did get more screen time then any other ME2 character.

Didn't Legion and Mordin get more?

Balls.

I lied. 

[JyrikGauldy]

the romance was extremely dissapointing...

[Y3Y00]

I played as a FemShep, hence didn't romance her throughout the trilogy, but I ought to love her character, it's very well-developed in my opinion, how she's turned from the all-powerful perfectionist, into a mere human, how she's saving her sister and resolving decades-long family conflict, I frankly wanted to kill her father myself, but it's good anyways. I can imagine that her fans would be dissapointed by both her diminutive role and underwhelming romance, although I didn't watch it.