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[Nightwriter]

Chromatix wrote...

Bioware, that was just lazy and wrong. There should be a new word for that. Lazong. Yes. It was LAZONG.

Oh yes, say it to us Samaritans. You at least get something.

I fail to see why we should quibble about the varying degrees of sh*t we got.

[gosimmons]

It would've been nice if every squaddie had some time on the Normandy.
Alas some development gets spread too thin.

[kookie28]

Mesina2 wrote...

kookie28 wrote...
And I'm sure he likes money more. Rushing the game out is worth more to them than a good game. Look at Madden.

*looks at EA stocks*

Nope.

So making bad business decisions = not wanting more money? Please explain the thought process behind an online pass if the goal is not to earn more cash.

Just because their plans don't always rake in tons of money doesn't mean that raking in tons of money wasn't the goal.

Modifié par kookie28, 15 avril 2012 - 04:43 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Miri Deserved More<3. I Really want a DLC for her, but I doubt BioWare would give it to use. They are more likely to give Content to ME1 Characters like "Liara" than other Characters like Miri. Unfortunately, on BioWare's part this is horribly true, in a sense.:crying:

And NO, BioWare! Do NOT make more Content only to have Miri die, f you so choose to make DLC for her!

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 15 avril 2012 - 04:43 .

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

Actually, judging by the way they advertised her so heavily in ME2, it appears that Bioware was intending for her to be the most popular. Despite the fact that she has a sizable fanbase, I would hazard a guess that Bioware was actually expecting it to be bigger than it is.

As to why her role in ME3 wasn't bigger, that's a whole other issue, really.

[L. Han]

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

Actually, judging by the way they advertised her so heavily in ME2, it appears that Bioware was intending for her to be the most popular. Despite the fact that she has a sizable fanbase, I would hazard a guess that Bioware was actually expecting it to be bigger than it is.

As to why her role in ME3 wasn't bigger, that's a whole other issue, really.

It's for marketting purposes.

[Nightwriter]

It's surprisingly douchey on their part.

Here's ME1! Love the ME1 characters!
Forget the ME1 characters! Love these new ME2 characters!
Forget the ME2 characters! The ME1 characters were the true stars all along!

You really know how to jerk me around, BioWare.

I wish you'd just told me from the beginning who it was safe to invest myself in, so I wouldn't pick one of the "wrong" options and get burned.

[kookie28]

I'm surprised "artistic integrity" hasn't come up yet.

[MisterJB]

Jessica1995 wrote...
 but they did tie her, her father, her sister, and TIM in a nice and interesting way, I do admit that.

Sadly, they didn't.
While Miranda did kill her father, that only protects Oriana. It did not adress the main issue of his ownership of Miranda's abilities and achievements thus leaving her without a sense of self-worth forever. Bioware just ignored this entirely.
And then, she speaks about TIM once, she is not even present at Cronos, we do not hear why she left Cerberus if you kept the Base, we do not hear how this Cerberus differs from the one she believed in.
Her idealism was another thing Bioware just ignored entirely.

Also, unlike with Liara's father, Shepard was not given the option of sharing a few words with Miranda's sister.
Tough, ultimately, this problem is not exclusive to Miranda. Shepard also did not spoke with Ashley's sister or Garrus' family.

[MisterJB]

kookie28 wrote...

I'm surprised "artistic integrity" hasn't come up yet.

That was their justification for the lack of a redesign.
"Visual Identity" = wearing a uniform that screams "Cerberus, Run for your lives!"

Modifié par MisterJB, 15 avril 2012 - 05:21 .

[Lawrence0294]

It really is very frustrating, especially if you romanced her. She had soooo much potential yet they didn't do much. I'd have imagined she would have had a role similar to legion or mordin regarding cerberus and the fact that she doesn't join at Cronos station is simply beyond stupidity. It simply makes sense given how respectful she was towards TIM in mass effect 2. She was the second in command for god sakes. And seeing her at the room of TIM again, having the prologue of mE2 in mind, would just be SOOO awesome.... but no :/

[ENorman94]

I agree that she is popular. I didnt think so at first but many polls put her high up. But like any well written character she has as many haters as fans. Problem is is that the Miranda fans are not very vocal while the haters are. Which is probably why she wan't on the squad and also why she is a "safe" character in ME3

Modifié par ENorman94, 15 avril 2012 - 05:50 .

[Sable Rhapsody]

ENorman94 wrote...

I agree that she is popular. I didnt think so at first but many polls put her high up. But like any well written character she has as many haters as fans. Problem is is that the Miranda fans are not very vocal while the haters are. Which is probably why she wan't on the squad and also why she is a "safe" character in ME3

David Gaider, the lead writer for DA:O, once said that it's better to have a character who inspires both passionate hate and love than a character who everyone is "meh, it's ok" toward.  I don't entirely agree with that sentiment, but he has a point.  A well-written yet polarizing character like Miranda is something to be embraced, not avoided just because some people don't like her.

[ENorman94]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

ENorman94 wrote...

I agree that she is popular. I didnt think so at first but many polls put her high up. But like any well written character she has as many haters as fans. Problem is is that the Miranda fans are not very vocal while the haters are. Which is probably why she wan't on the squad and also why she is a "safe" character in ME3

David Gaider, the lead writer for DA:O, once said that it's better to have a character who inspires both passionate hate and love than a character who everyone is "meh, it's ok" toward.  I don't entirely agree with that sentiment, but he has a point.  A well-written yet polarizing character like Miranda is something to be embraced, not avoided just because some people don't like her.

I agree, but the writers may have wanted to please as many people as possible. Could you imagine the response if Miranda was put on the squad. It would be a myriad of statements like "I dont want that fanservice b**** on my squad!" or "She wanted to put a control chip in my brain!! Im gunna kill her on the suicide mission now!"
But thats just my opinion

[Ashaman X]

Miranda became a good friend to my Shep in ME2, he respected and cared for her. He was also greatful that she brought him back to life. He did not romance her however, as he was loyal to Ashley.

Frankly, I think that the issues mentioned above are valid. Once Sanctuary is over, Miranda should have joined the squad. If you treat her right, by the end of ME2 she is disgusted at what TIM has become and leaves Cerberus. I think it would have been extremely poetic to have her there at Cronos Station, but then again perhaps all she wanted was to possibly spend the last few days she had left with Oriana.

I must admit, I don't think Miranda and Ash could be friends. Ash is thankful that Miranda brought him back, but she will never truly trust her I think.

[BladyMZ]

Miranda fans are not vocal enough? Look at Miranda support thread. LOOK.
For me having Tali aboard is a fanservice, there is no other way to put it. They force us into Garrus bro-mance, so having him is fine, he is a good soldier and has a great voice actor. Like I said, Tali is a great character, but they squeezed her into the squad (that is already full with Tech and Soldier types), but ex-Cerberus officer with tech and biotic knowledge will be turned into 30 point War Asset. Lazong.

[xIREDEEMEDIx]

I tend to agree with OP. They should have at least had a final cabin scene with not only Miranda, but Jack as well. You have your final moment with Miranda half way through the game basically and almost not even have a moment with Jack except when your save them at the academy. I think they didn't even have to have a long conversation like the big 3 (Tali, Liara, Ashley).

[d-boy15]

At least, you can be an ass and let her die by refuse to give a resource.

Her romance death scene handle very well even meer is stunning in that scene. For alive romance
scene, what the hell? at least they should have met face to face instead of hologram...

Modifié par d-boy15, 16 avril 2012 - 01:52 .

[Kia Purity]

Bob Walker wrote...

Besides all that, she is Sarah from Chuck.

Bioware wasn't even watching Chuck, were they? >_< I wanted Miranda with me in ME3 too 'cause she's awesome! 

[spirosz]

Chromatix wrote...

Oh yes, say it to us Samaritans. You at least get something.


Bioware doesn't care about anyone except Liara T'Canoni (Mass Effect 3: If you're not romancing Liara, you're doing it wrong.)

Even though I don't agree with it being Canon, there are obvious signs that it was the one with the most dedicated time and emotion, so lucky for Liara fans, haha.  

[BladyMZ]

I also really like how giving Miranda a chance to die during Sanctuary means there is never going to be any DLC with her.

Remember when ME2 was realesed and Liara fans went crazy, bacause she was so cold and had little impact in the game? Someone found Shadowbroker DLC "temp" files on disc, which gave them hope. Then there was this famous leak on reddit (I think) that specified LoTSB way of having Liara romance in ME2. There was a chance. Something to hold on to.

Jack still has a chance of making SOME impact in ME3- but chances are very slim. For Miranda DLC? No chance. Enjoy Clarification and Omega DLC.

[10K]

I agree with this tread. Though I didn't romance Miranda, she is one of  my top 3 favorite characters for ME. I would of took her rather then Tali, Liara, the VS, the prothean, and edi. Besides Vega and Garrus, the rest of the squadmates were Sh*t!!

Modifié par mosesarose, 16 avril 2012 - 05:34 .