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[sth88]

I never got into Lost, and considering how many times people have compared its ending to that of ME3, I am extremely glad that I didn't.

[Shaedlance]

Lost. Ending was bad. Show was bad after the first season, they kinda dragged it out for way too long.

ME3 ending was awful. Disconnected from the series completely. 98% of the game was good not great but good, and enjoyed playing it, last 10 minutes was wow.... bad bad bad - god awful - mind numblingly - head scratching -wtf just happened - bad..

[Raizo]

Loved Lost. Hated the ending. I own every single season of that show on dvd and I used to re-watch each season religiously but after the ending I no longer wanted anything to do with the show, 6 seasons of television tarnished in 2 hours.

Hated ME3's ending.

[Meltemph]

sth88 wrote...

I never got into Lost, and considering how many times people have compared its ending to that of ME3, I am extremely glad that I didn't.

Ya, that is actually the reason I brought it up.  I cant help but think of Lost everytime I think of being disapointed with ME3.  While the reasons are a bit different, the feeling it left was about the same, just wanted to see where everyone else was at, for those who were fans of both, until the end.

Modifié par Meltemph, 15 avril 2012 - 06:58 .

[Aaleel]

I hated the endings to both, they're right up there with the ending to that last Matrix.

[Megachaz]

I didn't really like Lost's ending, but I didn't hate it. The whole 6th season was kind of weak though.

In Lost, the mysteries were important. The entire show was built around the characters discovering why things were happening. In the end they tossed a lot of that aside. It wasn't as bad as ME3's ending because it ended with a satisfying resolution for most of the characters.

In Mass Effect, the "why" doesn't really matter. The characters don't really care why the Reapers reap. They just want to stop them. In the end, they felt like they had to tell us the secret and it was really lame. It ends without resolution for most of the main characters.

[Meltemph]

Shaedlance wrote...

Lost. Ending was bad. Show was bad after the first season, they kinda dragged it out for way too long.

ME3 ending was awful. Disconnected from the series completely. 98% of the game was good not great but good, and enjoyed playing it, last 10 minutes was wow.... bad bad bad - god awful - mind numblingly - head scratching -wtf just happened - bad..

I personally felt the ending going down hill after the Cerberus base started.  It wasnt all bad, but it started pointing to an ending I wasnt goign to be happy with, because it started to feel rushed to me.

[Transgirlgamer]

Didn't watch Lost. I tried but couldn't get into it.

ME3 was great up to Cerberus HQ, then good until marauder shields then okay until the elevator then banana afterwards. (Didn't make sense and came out of nowhere.)

[count_4]

Hated the Lost ending - no explanations given at all. Most we got was a "because I made it so". Plus the switch from might-be-sci-fi/might-be-supernatural to full-out supernatural, religious crap in the end.

Hated ME3 ending - no elaboration needed here, I guess...

[Eternalsteelfan]

I loved the LOST finale as did my friends who watched the entire thing from start to finish. It was always about the people and the ending reflected that, I suppose people who were into it mostly for the mystery were disappointed.

The ending of Mass Effect 3 was terrible.

[Slymandro]

Ha you just reminded me of this. This Joker knows exactly how story structure works.

[Meltemph]

It was always about the people and the ending reflected that, I suppose people who were into it mostly for the mystery were disappointed.

For some it was all about the characters for others Lost was about the mystery of the island for them. I mean, the island is arguably a character itself.

I think it is why there are still people that like the ending to ME, they wanted a metaphysical question being asked of them, there are people who wanted some "religious" tone put to the ending of ME and some feel they got it.

[RainyDayLover]

Say what you will about Lost and it's final season (there were no questions answered and the stuff explained made no sense) but at least it provided me closure with the characters I'd come to love and care about over the 6 seasons.

[Meltemph]

RainyDayLover wrote...

Say what you will about Lost and it's final season (there were no questions answered and the stuff explained made no sense) but at least it provided me closure with the characters I'd come to love and care about over the 6 seasons.

On that I agree. At least Lost gave you something.

[Cecilia L]

I was really disappointed by Lost's ending. I raged and ranted about it to all my friends for months.

Never thought I could be more disappointed by a badly written end... boy was I wrong.

[Oakenshield1]

Um I stopped watching Lost after season 4 or 5.

[Eternalsteelfan]

Meltemph wrote...

It was always about the people and the ending reflected that, I suppose people who were into it mostly for the mystery were disappointed.

For some it was all about the characters for others Lost was about the mystery of the island for them. I mean, the island is arguably a character itself.

I think it is why there are still people that like the ending to ME, they wanted a metaphysical question being asked of them, there are people who wanted some "religious" tone put to the ending of ME and some feel they got it.

I'm not saying anyone is wrong to be more interested in the setting and the mystery, but the show always emphasized the characters, their stories, and their arcs more than the mysteries of the islands. The ending reflects and resolves the story in this sense, Jack's father's exposition at the end is very indicative of what was important to the story of LOST.

The show mostly dodged giving answers throughout it's run, I suppose we all thought of it as a mystery that will someday be solved, myself and my friends always tried to guess and theorycraft, but in the end it turned out it didn't matter; the Island, it's power, what it all means, life and death, these are all things we will never understand, what we can understand and identify with are the people and the choices they made and what they did with the situation they were put in.

Modifié par Eternalsteelfan, 15 avril 2012 - 07:40 .

[Meltemph]

Eternalsteelfan wrote...

Meltemph wrote...

It was always about the people and the ending reflected that, I suppose people who were into it mostly for the mystery were disappointed.

For some it was all about the characters for others Lost was about the mystery of the island for them. I mean, the island is arguably a character itself.

I think it is why there are still people that like the ending to ME, they wanted a metaphysical question being asked of them, there are people who wanted some "religious" tone put to the ending of ME and some feel they got it.

I'm not saying anyone is wrong to be more interested in the setting and the mystery, but the show always emphasized the characters, their stories, and their arcs more than the mysteries of the islands. The ending reflects and resolves the story in this sense, Jack's father's exposition at the end is very indicative of what was important to the story of LOST.

The show mostly dodged giving answers throughout it's run, I suppose we all thought of it as a mystery that will someday be solved, myself and my friends always tried to guess and theorycraft, but in the end it turned out it didn't matter; the Island, it's power, what it all means, life and death, these are all things we will never understand, what we can understand and identify with are the people and the choices they made and what they did with the situation they were put in.

The scifi though was the hook that kept you caring about the characters and that hook was why people stuck around.  Without that hook it is just another show about characters.  That scifi is what kept the show together and explained and got the characters where they got.  To put the show entirely on the shoulders of the character development is how you only please people who cared about the characters.  


I mean, it is still better then what ME gave us, but it definitely decided to only satisfy cahracter questions and ignore the hook.  That hook was why, imo, most people tuned in, because the wanted to know what the island was going to do to them next and with a hope for more understanding.

[JusticeSpeaks]

Everyone seems to be comparing the two, but i look at it like this. If you took lost and ended it like with ME3, it'd be like saying

Season 1

"Theres something in the jungle...i dont know what but its like a smoke monster or something"

Season 6

"Hey im the smoke monster, yeah i can talk, oh and by the way, i know have full say over what is possible and unphathumable on the island."

Ghost kid was either never metioned or hinted at twice in 150+ of gameplay, so yeah either way its bad...

[Meltemph]

JusticeSpeaks wrote...

Everyone seems to be comparing the two, but i look at it like this. If you took lost and ended it like with ME3, it'd be like saying

Season 1

"Theres something in the jungle...i dont know what but its like a smoke monster or something"

Season 6

"Hey im the smoke monster, yeah i can talk, oh and by the way, i know have full say over what is possible and unphathumable on the island."

Ghost kid was either never metioned or hinted at twice in 150+ of gameplay, so yeah either way its bad...

They only get compared because it is the most fresh thing in peoples mind whne they think of a scifi disapointment/controversy.

[JusticeSpeaks]

Maybe, but the smoke monster was always there. Also, i didnt really mind the ending, although i think they did handle the lock/jack fight poorly. If they built up the fight with a smoke monster capable of untold destruction, their shouldnt have been a loophole to make him capable of dieing from a knife. It was a letdown, but only a little one.

[Eternalsteelfan]

Meltemph wrote...

Eternalsteelfan wrote...

Meltemph wrote...

It was always about the people and the ending reflected that, I suppose people who were into it mostly for the mystery were disappointed.

For some it was all about the characters for others Lost was about the mystery of the island for them. I mean, the island is arguably a character itself.

I think it is why there are still people that like the ending to ME, they wanted a metaphysical question being asked of them, there are people who wanted some "religious" tone put to the ending of ME and some feel they got it.

I'm not saying anyone is wrong to be more interested in the setting and the mystery, but the show always emphasized the characters, their stories, and their arcs more than the mysteries of the islands. The ending reflects and resolves the story in this sense, Jack's father's exposition at the end is very indicative of what was important to the story of LOST.

The show mostly dodged giving answers throughout it's run, I suppose we all thought of it as a mystery that will someday be solved, myself and my friends always tried to guess and theorycraft, but in the end it turned out it didn't matter; the Island, it's power, what it all means, life and death, these are all things we will never understand, what we can understand and identify with are the people and the choices they made and what they did with the situation they were put in.

The scifi though was the hook that kept you caring about the characters and that hook was why people stuck around.  Without that hook it is just another show about characters.  That scifi is what kept the show together and explained and got the characters where they got.  To put the show entirely on the shoulders of the character development is how you only please people who cared about the characters.  


I mean, it is still better then what ME gave us, but it definitely decided to only satisfy cahracter questions and ignore the hook.  That hook was why, imo, most people tuned in, because the wanted to know what the island was going to do to them next and with a hope for more understanding.

The mysteries of the show drew people sure, and they served their purpose in the context of the story, but to say that's the "hook", or points of most interest, is a matter of opinion. I'm trying to point out to you that if you follow the narrative you will see, regardless of what you find most interesting, the story always avoided giving complete answers to the mysteries and spent (by FAR) the most time on the characters and their individual or shared arcs. The pilot is where you grab an audience, look back at that and where the emphasis lies.

[zarnk567]

I did not rally mind the lost ending, I hate the ME3 ending with a passion..... Just with how bad of a "Bitter sweet" ending it was.... and by bad.... I mean complete and total failure.

[Leafs43]

People didn't like season 5?

I thought the whole time traveling paradox was cool.

[JusticeSpeaks]

I dont see why people always talk about the whole "bitter sweet" thing in ME3. I mean, Mass effect was already bitter-sweet; people died and sacrafices had to be made, but all that was said and done made sense and was needed. Shephard dieing, for example wasnt needed, especially since he already died in ME2 due to the collector attack. I mean what was the sweet part? That everyone didnt die on scene? I mean theres bitter and then theres massocistic(spelling?).