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[jdmteggy4life]

which one is better

[godlike13]

Hmm, well both are good but im gonna go with Reave. Its just more flexible. Setting up and detonating Biotic explosions, and u can Reave multiple targets and have more than one Reave effect going at a time (While also getting damage protection). Where DC can only hit one target, and u can only have one going at a time.

Modifié par godlike13, 15 avril 2012 - 06:42 .

[Kronner]

Reave is much better for Shepard imho.

[jdmteggy4life]

does anyone know how to add reave via gibbed save editor???

[jdmteggy4life]

which has a higher dmg output???

[godlike13]

On single targets Dark Channel, but its over a lengthy DoT. Which is both good and bad. Reave can damage multiple targets though.

Modifié par godlike13, 17 avril 2012 - 04:24 .

[SupidSeep]

Dark Channel's ability to jump to a nearby target makes it useful as a setup for Biotic Explosions.

Sic DC on a guy, then detonate him (e.g. via Throw), he dies and DC jumps to another guy, then detonate the other guy ... you get the idea.

DC doesn't work as well on tougher critters like Banshees that can soak up multiple explosions, since you can only detonate DC once per target.

[Jestina]

I like dark channel best myself....Javik goes with me everywhere to set up biotic boom boom. I don't use either power with Shep though.

[jdmteggy4life]

so which form of rank 6 is better more dmg output or more dmg to armor and barriers?

[godlike13]

For DC, Armor and Barriers. For Reave, Damage and Duration.

[AK404]

Honestly, OP, it depends. If you need a fire-and-forget primer, Dark Channel is pure awesome. That being said, Reave is a very good primer for explosions.

[SwiftRevenant]

Reave hands down. Instant can't be dodged.

[jdmteggy4life]

so what evolutions should i take for it for an infiltrator???

[NY Dynasty1977]

Didnt want to start a new thread so searched and found this one. Which do you prefer for a engineer build? and most likely running with liara and vega as squadmates. I was thinking reave but I already got barriers taken care of with overload so DC would seem like obvious choice, right?

[godlike13]

Reave for an engineer because it can set and detonate BE's.

[NY Dynasty1977]

godlike13 wrote...

Reave for an engineer because it can set and detonate BE's.

cant DC do the same?  and I was thinking DC also cuz of CC....

[godlike13]

No, DC can only set. So u'd have to rely solely on Liara's warp to do all BE detonating.

Modifié par godlike13, 01 mai 2012 - 05:14 .

[OBakaSama]

Recently completed the game on Insanity with a Reave-Engineer as it were. It's a good set-up game-wise, if odd story-wise (why does an Engineer have biotics?).

As others have mentioned, Dark Channel can only set and it doesn't really do a lot of damage; its use is in setting up biotic explosions. If you have Liara in the squad and built to minimize cooldowns then plenty of explosions are forthcoming. Factor in a Shepard who has Reave which can also detonate Dark Channel...let's just state that it wasn't often I needed a lot of ammo with that squad make-up.

Should Javik not be in the squad or be unable to use Dark Channel, then Reave can still be used to set biotic combos anyway.

[Br0th3rGr1mm]

Dark Channel's recharge makes it useless, IMO (unless you are using it as you ONLY power).

This is the main reason I will NEVER use Javik. He has 1 point in DC by default and him using it makes him useless to me for over 10 seconds. You cannot reset his powers to remove the point (so he can't have it available) and I have no intention of turning off squad powers as some of them HAVE used their own powers intelligently every now and then.

[PROTOTYPE_ZERO]

If you are a Sentinel or Adept with access to Throw, Dark Channel is amazing.

Crowd control: DC => Throw => BOOM => DC jumps to another one => Throw => BOOM, so on..

Against bosses (Prime/Atlas/Banshee): DC => Throw => BOOM; DC will STILL plague the enemy and do damage AFTER the explosion (very helpful if you spec for +75% armor damage); after which I just spam Warp => Throw

Without Throw, I'd go with Reave for the damage protection

[nuculerman]

Br0th3rGr1mm wrote...

Dark Channel's recharge makes it useless, IMO (unless you are using it as you ONLY power).

This is the main reason I will NEVER use Javik. He has 1 point in DC by default and him using it makes him useless to me for over 10 seconds. You cannot reset his powers to remove the point (so he can't have it available) and I have no intention of turning off squad powers as some of them HAVE used their own powers intelligently every now and then.

Javik is a beast.  Dark Channel is amazing.  I run with a Vanguard w/ Reave, Liara and Javik.  It's hilarious.  Insanity is a joke when you can have a biotic explosion basically every 1-2 seconds.

[nuculerman]

Reave is better on Shepard, IMO. It's recharge time is crazy low, it effects more enemies, and it can set up and detonate biotic explosions. The damage protection is also really nice. Dark Channel is an awesome ability in a team.

[Br0th3rGr1mm]

nuculerman wrote...

Br0th3rGr1mm wrote...

Dark Channel's recharge makes it useless, IMO (unless you are using it as you ONLY power).

This is the main reason I will NEVER use Javik. He has 1 point in DC by default and him using it makes him useless to me for over 10 seconds. You cannot reset his powers to remove the point (so he can't have it available) and I have no intention of turning off squad powers as some of them HAVE used their own powers intelligently every now and then.

Javik is a beast.  Dark Channel is amazing.  I run with a Vanguard w/ Reave, Liara and Javik.  It's hilarious.  Insanity is a joke when you can have a biotic explosion basically every 1-2 seconds.

You don't need DC to pull off BEs that fast (and I note you are NOT running DC on your Shep....the point of this thread).  You certainly don't need more than 2 Biotics in a team to pull off BEs left and right, either.  Shep, Liara and EDI (or later Tali) makes a much more versitle team, IMO.

I've tried using Javik and he constantly uses DC on stupid targets and I can never direct his powers as needed due to DC's massive recharge.  EDI has almost the same issue with Decoy (but at least that power benifits the whole team).  I guess the solution is to turn off squad power use and micro manage all power use, but I've done that before and it makes the game less than fun....

[ghostz82]

Reave would be the ovious choice for some classes but if you have an adept dark channel would be my choice because both throw or warp works great with dark channel. But for an infiltrator I would use energy drain instead of DC or reave because it suits your class more and is great and for staying alive, striping shields, causing damage, and tech bursts. So why would you want reave for an infiltrator?

By the way to whoever thinks dark channel and javik sucks you really need to learn how to play because javik is hands down one of the best squadmates to use because of his powers particularly dark channel and his weapon that you get from him (particle rifle). The particle rifle with a spare ammo mod and armor piercing mod is godlike in the hands of any squadmate that can use it, they turn everything to green goo very quickly. Also if your a vangaurd or adept picking liara and javik as squadmates makes you godlike and is the best pair to have on your side. it makes the game to easy because you can basically cause BE explosions all the time in so many ways.

Javik and liara alone as a pair can make the game to easy when just their powers are used properly and if given the right weapons (javik/particle rifle and Liara/Hurricane smg) its even more bad news for the bad guys. Also they can even be paired with any class that has incediary ammo or incinerate because fire powers combined with some biotic powers that detonate not prime for instance like warp can cause fire explosions so between the BE explosions and fire explosions its chaos for the your enemies.

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godlike13 wrote...

Reave for an engineer because it can set and detonate BE's.

why not just be an adept at that point.