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[deuce985]

Just curious to what everyone thinks. Orlais is obvious, being the Templar HQ and White Divine's residence.

Doesn't it seem like DA3 is setup for a huge conflict with Tevinter Imperium vs. Orlais? Blood magic is freely practiced in Tevinter. They also have their form of the Chantry in the Black Divine. Doesn't it seem like this is the perfect opportunity for one of the divines to topple the other from political power and claim their version of the Chantry? Blood mages siding with Tevinter Imperium and Templars(obviously) with Orlais?

I'd like to see it end up like this. I think if Bioware did it right, we could see a major conflict on our hands since this would pretty much put every country in the war.

I aslo think it would help with some complaints about exploration. It would be awesome to at least see two polar opposite countries and their art styles...

But please...don't make everyone in Orlais have the fake French accents...

Modifié par deuce985, 15 avril 2012 - 07:04 .

[astreqwerty]

no

[The Elder King]

The Chantry failed in destrooying the Imperium with the Exalted Marches, where every Andrastian nations and maybe their mages fought together. I doubt that Orlais alone will defeat the Tevinter.
The Chantry has its hands already full with the mages revolution. It'd be a bad idea to fight against Tevinter too.
It could be that the Tevinter will try to take advantage of the situation, but they have their hands full of the Qunari. I doubt that they'll be that foolish to waste resources that could be useful against the Qunari on the mages rebellion.
Plus, from the Chantry's (and the Andrastian nations) point of view, the Tevinter Imperium are useful. The Qunari aren't invading the rest of Thedas because they're focused on conquering the Northen Thedas; as long as the Tevinter stands, the Qunari will not (probably) invade the rest of Thedas

[dsl08002]

Perhaps yes considering that the tevinter imperium is cinsisting of powerhungry mages.

But i belive that the imperium will serve the same way as the batarians did in ME3. that they will be the first that will take the hit from the qunari invasion.

[The Elder King]

dsl08002 wrote...

Perhaps yes considering that the tevinter imperium is cinsisting of powerhungry mages.

But i belive that the imperium will serve the same way as the batarians did in ME3. that they will be the first that will take the hit from the qunari invasion.

The qunari are trying to beat the Imperium for decades. I didn't see anything in the previous games that will lead me to think that the qunari will beat the Imperium.
And even if they're going to do a qunari invasion in a similar way of the Reaper invasion (which in my opinion will suck greatly) I doubt it'll happen in the next game.

[deuce985]

The Quanari invasion on Kirkwall wasn't highlighted enough...

It just seems to me it's the perfect opportunity for Tevinter Imperium to rally mages to their cause. Hit the seat of power.

They don't necessarily have to send waves of armies to Orlais...you can meddle with politics behind the scenes.

[The Elder King]

deuce985 wrote...

The Quanari invasion on Kirkwall wasn't highlighted enough...

It just seems to me it's the perfect opportunity for Tevinter Imperium to rally mages to their cause. Hit the seat of power.

They don't necessarily have to send waves of armies to Orlais...you can meddle with politics behind the scenes.

On that, I could agree. It already happened after the scism of the Tevinter Chantry and during the Exalted Marches against Tevinter that the Imperium gained mages.
From your post I thought that with "huge conflict" you meant a war.
Though I have to say that the Tevinter will try to gain advantages in every countries, not only Orlais (which, putting aside the mages revolution, has its problem to solve).

[The Elder King]

sjpelkessjpeler wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

The Quanari invasion on Kirkwall wasn't highlighted enough...

It just seems to me it's the perfect opportunity for Tevinter Imperium to rally mages to their cause. Hit the seat of power.

They don't necessarily have to send waves of armies to Orlais...you can meddle with politics behind the scenes.

On that, I could agree. It already happened after the scism of the Tevinter Chantry and during the Exalted Marches against Tevinter that the Imperium gained mages.
From your post I thought that with "huge conflict" you meant a war.
Though I have to say that the Tevinter will try to gain advantages in every countries, not only Orlais (which, putting aside the mages revolution, has its problem to solve).

That's exectly what I was referring to. Behind the scene Tevinter could have great influence in the ongoing war. They could supply the needed lyrium for example. Their masters in blood magic so maybe they learn apostate mages in Thedas some of their trade. All kinds of possiblities without open war. Just brainstorming here.........

It depends if the mages who are rebelling want to use blood magic though. Anders, for example, was firmly contrary to blood magic.
I'd like if in the next game there'll be a good amount of mages who don't use. Almost every apostates in DA2 (with some exception) used blood magic. Even the First Enchanter used it.

[Ponendus]

I don't think it will play a 'big' part in this next particular instalment (just a gut feeling). However, I do think it will play some of a part, and it will definitely be a big thing in future instalments.

[PsychoBlonde]

hhh89 wrote...

dsl08002 wrote...

Perhaps yes considering that the tevinter imperium is cinsisting of powerhungry mages.

But i belive that the imperium will serve the same way as the batarians did in ME3. that they will be the first that will take the hit from the qunari invasion.

The qunari are trying to beat the Imperium for decades. I didn't see anything in the previous games that will lead me to think that the qunari will beat the Imperium.
And even if they're going to do a qunari invasion in a similar way of the Reaper invasion (which in my opinion will suck greatly) I doubt it'll happen in the next game.

The Qunari have been DEFENDING against the Imperium for a couple of centuries.  Their initial invasion failed not precisely because the Imperium threw them back but because of the Chantry called an Exalted March--it took pretty much ALL of Thedas to throw the Qunari back, and even then, it was a retreat and not a rout.

If the Qunari wanted to kill EVERYONE, they could *destroy* the Imperium at any time--but this isn't what they want and it would probably weaken the Qunari sufficiently that the rest of Thedas could (and would) put a permanent end to them.  It would be catastrophic for everyone involved, though, and if the Qunari were Total War types, would result in MAD (that's Mutually Assured Destruction for those of you who don't remember the Cold War all that clearly).

But no, the Qunari have essentially been entirely passive re: invading anybody since the Llomeryan Accords.  They have dug in, fortified, and are constantly skirmishing with Imperial raiders, Tal'Vashoth, and the human/elven resistance (Fog Warriors).  However, Thedas is full of their spies/converts/operatives.  It's only a matter of time before major hostilities erupt again, either because Thedas attacks them or they attack Thedas.

[Fenton]

 Mage vs Templar war, at some point yeah they are going to get involved. How is what I like to see unfold. Either I still don't trust em after two games. So DA 3 I'm giving em my third strike and hopefully in future DA games I can abuse some of those Tevinter SOBs even with my tank and mage character.

[Arthur Cousland]

What better way to have a mage vs templar war than to have Tevinter and Orlais fight it out? Then, the Qunari can invade the weakened Theadas and force everyone to convert to the Qun.

Whether or not Tevinter appears in DA3, it would certainly be interesting to visit there at some point. Tevinter is the one place where mages are in power, and not imprisoned by the Templars, which would be a 360 from what we've seen so far.

[Anvos]

Personally I'm suspecting that while Orlais is busy with their civil war and mage vs templar war that Tevinatar is gonna call a crusade against Rivani to expell the qun's influence and give them an excuse to try and reassimilate Rivani and Antiva.

[Dutchess]

sjpelkessjpeler wrote...

Tevinter is known for even openly using blood magic and in DA2 Tharonne (do not know ik I get her name right here) for example who didn't belong to the circle. The mages who will get from support Tevinter will likely be bloodmages too.

Actually, according to Fenris they all act like it's forbidden in public, but behind closed doors they do it anyway. 

I really hope to see more of Tevinter in DA3, but I have the feeling the focus will be on Orlais. We'll probably here something from Tevinter, but whether we will get the chance to actually visit Minrathous... well, it remains to be seen.

[Anvos]

Considering they already have the undertaking of Val Royeaux if this is set in Orlais I doubt will see much more than maybe a small border town in Tevintar. Also if you look at the map Orlais and the Dales by themself would be big enough to give us a scope similar to DA:O.