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[The Interloper]

I cant decide whether to buy the xbox or pc version of DA. I would prefer the PC, but I am not sure if I want to chance 40-50 bucks on my PCs rig.

I have vista, 2.4 ghz dual core, 2 gb ram, 7600 gt video card. Can anyone tell me how well this will run it, and on what settings? 

I run the character creater fine, for whatever that counts.

(Failing that, can anyone tell me if there is an outlet that refunds opened  PC products?)

[andysdead]

it'll look better on your xbox.

[andysdead]

BUT, if you want to get your PC up to speed for gaming, you could upgrade it.



in order of importance:

1st - windows 7. huge upgrade.

2nd - 4 gigs of RAM.

3rd - new video card.

4th - new processor.



all of the above could be accomplished for under 500 dollars, theoretically. some of the above could be accomplished for much less.

[enderandrew]

Do you want the toolset? Do you want to be able to get modules created by other players?



The 7600 GT with 256 megs of memory is listed as the bare minimum required to run the game. You can get a better video card at a reasonable price if you're interested in PC gaming. If you decide to upgrade your video card, find out if the new video card needs additional power plugs, and if so, make your power supply can handle that.



There are video cards that don't need additional power connections.

[enderandrew]

andysdead wrote...

BUT, if you want to get your PC up to speed for gaming, you could upgrade it.

in order of importance:
1st - windows 7. huge upgrade.
2nd - 4 gigs of RAM.
3rd - new video card.
4th - new processor.

all of the above could be accomplished for under 500 dollars, theoretically. some of the above could be accomplished for much less.

Windows 7 won't improve performance that much, and will be a fairly expensive upgrade. I think Windows 7 is much better than Vista in a lot of areas, but performance wise, it isn't that big of a deal.

RAM is cheap. Video cards can be had on the cheap.

Upgrading the processor may mean a new motherboard as well, and that will probably be pricy.

I'd recommend RAM and a video card.

[loverboy05]

i got a geforce 9100 integrated 256 mb video card in my new computer and a 8400 geforce 512 mb gs in my old computer. which is better?

[andysdead]

enderandrew wrote...

andysdead wrote...

BUT, if you want to get your PC up to speed for gaming, you could upgrade it.

in order of importance:
1st - windows 7. huge upgrade.
2nd - 4 gigs of RAM.
3rd - new video card.
4th - new processor.

all of the above could be accomplished for under 500 dollars, theoretically. some of the above could be accomplished for much less.

Windows 7 won't improve performance that much, and will be a fairly expensive upgrade. I think Windows 7 is much better than Vista in a lot of areas, but performance wise, it isn't that big of a deal.

RAM is cheap. Video cards can be had on the cheap.

Upgrading the processor may mean a new motherboard as well, and that will probably be pricy.

I'd recommend RAM and a video card.

a) there are ways around paying full price for win7.
RAM is definitely a must.
c) yes, a new video card would be a cheap and easy upgrade.
d) chances are, with an Intel dual core processor running at that clock speed, there's a good chance that there is a faster processor available that fits in the same socket. Only reason I mention it.

[andysdead]

loverboy05 wrote...

i got a geforce 9100 integrated 256 mb video card in my new computer and a 8400 geforce 512 mb gs in my old computer. which is better?

Probably the 9100.

[Titius.Vibius]

loverboy05 wrote...

i got a geforce 9100 integrated 256 mb video card in my new computer and a 8400 geforce 512 mb gs in my old computer. which is better?

None. Be realistic, we are having issues with alleged memory leak and unidentified video cards at the moment. So trying to run DA on a barely satisfied minimum requirement will not hack it.

No, nada, nunca unless you can be on a Core 2 Duo 2.6+, Core 2 Quad 2.4+, AMD Athlon 2.6+, AMD Phenom/2 2.4+, Nvidia 9800 GT+, ATI Radeon 4830+, and 4-12 GB of RAM playing it below these requirements is such a hassle.

You are better off buying for your Xbox if you have one.

[Matt190]

Could my computer run this game?

Cpu -- intel core 2 cpu e7300 @ 2.66Ghz
cpu speed-- 2.66ghz at 4.788 ghz
ram-- 4G
Video Card: ATI Radeon HD 3450
350 GB

thanks

[Xaltar81]

I would go out on a limb here and say that the ATI minimum spec would be a Radeon HD3650, its roughly comparable to a geforce 7600gt. That is not to say that a 3450 won't play the game, it might but I doubt it will play it at any decent quality settings and resolution. If you can afford DAO then maybe you should look into a geforce 9800GT or radeon 3850. They are cheap now and will run DAO and many other games well.

[Gorath Alpha]

This message (below) has the importance of various parts totally out of sequence (at least, when it is PERFORMANCE that we are talking about, as in this case).  Video cards are the absolute most important part of a gaming PC, and ALWAYS  get the first priority! 

RAM is only a THIRD rank component, after GPU, then CPU.  OS version ranks somewhere around fifth, depending on where you are upgrading from (helps a Vista owner, should be neutral for an XP owner.  Only storage device upgrades rank below that.

andysdead wrote...

BUT, if you want to get your PC up to speed for gaming, you could upgrade it.

in order of importance:
1st - windows 7. huge upgrade.
2nd - 4 gigs of RAM.
3rd - new video card.
4th - new processor.

all of the above could be accomplished for under 500 dollars, theoretically. some of the above could be accomplished for much less.

The marvelous thing about the benefits from video card upgrades is how inexpensive they have become!  An HD 4650 for $35 after rebate from Newegg is a fantastic opportunity! 

The Interloper wrote...

I cant decide whether to buy the
xbox or pc version of DA. I would prefer the PC, but I am not sure if I
want to chance 40-50 bucks on my PCs rig.

I have vista, 2.4 ghz
dual core, 2 gb ram, 7600 gt video card. Can anyone tell me how well
this will run it, and on what settings? 

I run the character creater fine, for whatever that counts.

No, the Character Creator can't tell you anything about the performance on your 7600 GT, but your CPU is fine, and your RAM is "fair", considering that you have Vista, which has serious additional RAM sink demands over XP.  

P. S.  Regarding this ridiculously misinformed message:

andysdead wrote...

loverboy05 wrote...

i got a geforce 9100 integrated 256 mb video card in my new computer and
a 8400 geforce 512 mb gs in my old computer. which is better?

Probably the 9100.

It's a freaking video chip, not any more than that, and a TERRIBLE one!  The 8400 is twice as good, and it's quite bad!

Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 06 décembre 2009 - 06:50 .

[Gorath Alpha]

Matt190 wrote...

Could my computer run this game?

Cpu -- intel core 2 cpu e7300 @ 2.66Ghz
cpu speed-- 2.66ghz at 4.788 ghz
ram-- 4G
Video Card: ATI Radeon HD 3450
350 GB

thanks

As someone said, "maybe", but a 3450 is pretty terrible (on a par, probably, with the 8400 named above).  A Mainline Gaming card will have an "n600" performance code right in its name, such as HD 4650 and HD 4670 both have. 

However, someone else was way off regarding the HD 3650, which destroys the Geforce 8400, and is well above the practical Radeon minimum X1650 Pro card. 

As per my reply to the thread's OP, for $35, after rebate, you can have an excellent HD 4650 from Newegg! 

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx

P. S.  Regarding an answer to the above that was posted:

Xaltar81 wrote...

I would go out on a limb here and say
that the ATI minimum spec would be a Radeon HD3650, its roughly
comparable to a geforce 7600gt. That is not to say that a 3450 won't
play the game, it might but I doubt it will play it at any decent
quality settings and resolution. If you can afford DAO then maybe you
should look into a geforce 9800GT or radeon 3850. They are cheap now
and will run DAO and many other games well.

Both of your suggestions draw more current than a stock branded PC's power supply can offer, so the cost of such an upgrade must include a new power supply.  If you want to start giving advice about video cards, you need a good reference, and here it is:

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/58/index/128343

The HD 3650 is miles out in front of a mere 7600 GT; it's two years newer, and has many MANY more shader processors onboard!  

Here's the poor, slow 7600 GT next to the vastly superior HD 3650:  www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php

Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 06 décembre 2009 - 04:52 .

[andysdead]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

This message (below) has the importance of various parts totally out of sequence.  Video cards are the absolute most important part of a gaming PC, and ALWAYS  get the first priority! 

RAM is only a THIRD rank component, after GPU, then CPU.  OS version ranks somewhere around fifth, depending on where you are upgrading from (helps a Vista owner, should be neutral for an XP owner.  Only storage device upgrades rank below that.

andysdead wrote...

BUT, if you want to get your PC up to speed for gaming, you could upgrade it.

in order of importance:
1st - windows 7. huge upgrade.
2nd - 4 gigs of RAM.
3rd - new video card.
4th - new processor.

all of the above could be accomplished for under 500 dollars, theoretically. some of the above could be accomplished for much less.

The marvelous thing about the benefits from video card upgrades is how inexpensive they have become!  An HD 4650 for $35 after rebate from Newegg is a fantastic opportunity! 

The Interloper wrote...

I cant decide whether to buy the
xbox or pc version of DA. I would prefer the PC, but I am not sure if I
want to chance 40-50 bucks on my PCs rig.

I have vista, 2.4 ghz
dual core, 2 gb ram, 7600 gt video card. Can anyone tell me how well
this will run it, and on what settings? 

I run the character creater fine, for whatever that counts.

No, the Character Creator can't tell you anything about the performance on your 7600 GT, but your CPU is fine, and your RAM is "fair", considering that you have Vista, which has addition RAM sink demands over XP.  

P. S.  Regarding this ridiculously misinformed message:

andysdead wrote...

loverboy05 wrote...

i
got a geforce 9100 integrated 256 mb video card in my new computer and
a 8400 geforce 512 mb gs in my old computer. which is better?

Probably the 9100.

It's a freaking video chip, not any more than that, and a TERRIBLE one!  The 8400 is twice as good, and it's quite bad!

Gorath
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You're probably right about the 9100. I was confusing it for a low-end discrete card, which it is not.

The priorities I listed are debatable, I suppose...  but personally I feel that having an operating system that makes efficient use of memory and doesn't crash all the time is more important than having a high-end graphics card. The reason I listed RAM higher than the graphics card is because at 2 gigs of RAM, he is probably making high use of page file memory while running Vista and playing this game, since Vista takes up basically all his RAM just to run. This is going to be the number 1 thing that would slow his computer down, and also the cheapest and easiest thing to upgrade. Graphics card support takes a back seat to that, IMO.

[Lolballs]

These threads often have people exaggerating how badly it will run on an old system, bragging about their muscle systems and how you need to beg mom for an upgrade immediately.

It says in system requirements you need a dual core processor for DAO wich i do not have. Yet I've had no trouble running it with medium settings (medium quality and textures, 4x anti alias and frame buffer effects ON) on my six year old computer. Windows XP, 3,0ghz single core, ATI Radeon x1650 pro 256mb and only a puny 1,5gb ram. Framerate drops in places but not enough to make me quit playing, and believe me I'd quit if it was a huge stutterfest or graphic corruptions galore. I play few games nowadays I'm just happy as hell I can play this game without buying a new comp.

[enderandrew]

The slowest component in your computer by far is your hard drive. That is why the memory leak that some people are experiencing is absolutely killing performance. When you start using up a lot of memory, your computer then swaps to the page file on your hard drive, which is extremely slow.



That is why I feel RAM is a priority. Having more RAM (a cheap upgrade) means not swapping to your hard drive.

[Mercifur]

I have AMD Phenom quad @ 2.2ghz, 6gb ram, hd4670, vista 64-bit, but game still has annoyingly long load times, lag, freezes, crashes, and just a moment ago, audio went out (dunno why)



Any advice?

[The Interloper]

Thanks for all the feedback.



Almost all the games I have recommend at least an 8800 or whatever and I run them all fine, so Im not overly worried( or as much). But I dont think Ive considered tackling something with this high of a processor or RAM level. So of those two, which is more important? I dont have that much money to spare, 150 tops.



On a more general note, can anyone tell me first hand how it runs on, say, a Vista with 2 gb, or provide some other first hand benchmark?



Sorry for all the specific questions, but I need to know this stuff.

[andysdead]

Mercifur wrote...

I have AMD Phenom quad @ 2.2ghz, 6gb ram, hd4670, vista 64-bit, but game still has annoyingly long load times, lag, freezes, crashes, and just a moment ago, audio went out (dunno why)

Any advice?

it's your processor. i had the same one, swapped it for a Phenom II and now everything's fine.

[Xaltar81]

@The Interloper



GFX card ~$100

RAM 2GB kit DDR2 ~$50



Assuming you are running DDR2 800 RAM as it stands. This should push you up to 4gb RAM and a decent GFX solution for $150.

[The Interloper]

Xaltar81 wrote...


Assuming you are running DDR2 800 RAM as it stands.

I'm afraid I'm an idiot concerning  RAM, I'm not sure what you mean. Im assuming thats a product name, but I'm not sure how its important that I use this DDR  800 thingamajiger. Again, I'm a dummy. Is this something about compatility?

And where can I find out if I am running this thing?

[enderandrew]

Do you have a pre-built computer from Dell, HP, etc? If so, what is the model number?

[The Interloper]

HP a170n, I think.

[The Interloper]

Hello?

[enderandrew]

I'm trying to figure out what computer you have. I'm not finding a a170n anywhere. Neither of these look right.



Here are the specs for an HP a170.uk : http://h10032.www1.h...al/bph08284.pdf



Here are the motherboard specs for an HP a1700n: http://h10025.www1.h...product=3339286



If I knew for sure what computer you had, I could link you to what RAM specifically to buy.