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[tractrpl]

I've watched the videos, and while the IT does have it's share of plot holes, it seems less than the ending we were given. So, if we were to learn that Destroy is the only "right choice" or something like that, and that BW was just "pulling our chain" and yeah, he was just indoctrinated. If you chose destroy, you end up hoping up to the citadel, activating the crucible, and saving the galaxy, no starbrat, no harm, no foul. Except for me, I would say it is a foul. It would be pretty damn risky for them to give us an ending we all thought was real (maybe) for half a year before saying "Psyche! Fooled you! Here's the REAL ending!" I think I'd still want to punch them in the face. Besides, how do we know that's what they REALLY intended. Maybe they only changed their story to fit IT because they knew that would be the only way to salvage their fan base. 

[MaximizedAction]

If IT is correct I will probably forget most of this story but I would've been even more happy if Bioware/EA had handled this fiasco better.

[kal_reegar]

all I want is no star brat, no plot holes and no space magic.

Indoc theory maybe wouldn't remove all the plot holes, but it would remove the star brat and the space magic. So yes, I would gladly accept it.

[tractrpl]

I would accept it as a better ending, but I'm upset that they only gave us the original ending, or gave us a fake ending and waited six months later to say "J/K, here's the REAL ending".

[DangerousPuddy]

I would get over it so long as it:

a) provides well-done and fully flushed out endings (~4-6 of them)
removes the plot holes, starchild and the like

I wouldn't pay for it if it was planned. If on the other hand they did this to fix the game I might.

But from here on out...I would be skeptical of any BioWare and EA game none-the-less and wait for fan reviews for everything.

Modifié par DangerousPuddy, 15 avril 2012 - 07:59 .

[The Almighty Ali]

If the Indoc. Theory is correct.
No, But I'd admit this entire ordeal could've been handled better if they hadn't decided to cut out the ending in that case.

[Cucobr]

unlikely


Indoctrination Theory implies that Shepard is on Earth.

- The Reapers still out there
- The Citadel still out there
- The Crucible still out there

finally .. if IT is true, must start when Shepard wake up.

But the FAQ makes IT very very very very unlikely.

IT is by far the best ending in gaming history.
IT is not an "ending" proper because the game does not end there.
The only purpose of IT is to make sense at all in a brilliantly way.


But BioWare choose Artistic Integrity.
But BioWare choose Magic Space

[jsadalia]

IT is terrible. It's not an ending, it's not supported either by previously established examples of how indoc. works in high-functioning subjects (Saren, TIM), or by in game evidence. It's just broad dumb space magic of the kind so many of its supporters like to complain about. It would be the worst thing BioWare could do to the story.

[Aaleel]

Yes, Because it would mean that Shepard is just lying on Earth on the hill.

Then to have something as anti climatic as Shepard waking up in the middle of the battlefield, walking to the beam, going to the Citadel with no resistance whatsoever and just activating the Crucible would be just as bad.

Your game would basically end with running down the hill. How is this any better.

[tractrpl]

I'm fully expecting that IT is totally wrong and that BW has no plans on implementing it. Would it be better if they did? Yes. But I like to expect the worse. There's a small chance I'll be pleasantly surprised.

[Byronic-Knight]

tractrpl wrote...

I would accept it as a better ending, but I'm upset that they only gave us the original ending, or gave us a fake ending and waited six months later to say "J/K, here's the REAL ending".

[tractrpl]

Aaleel wrote...

Yes, Because it would mean that Shepard is just lying on Earth on the hill.

Then to have something as anti climatic as Shepard waking up in the middle of the battlefield, walking to the beam, going to the Citadel with no resistance whatsoever and just activating the Crucible would be just as bad.

Your game would basically end with running down the hill. How is this any better.

True, but there would be far more "artistic integrety" with that ending than with what we got.

[Cucobr]

jsadalia wrote...

IT is terrible. It's not an ending, it's not supported either by previously established examples of how indoc. works in high-functioning subjects (Saren, TIM), or by in game evidence. It's just broad dumb space magic of the kind so many of its supporters like to complain about. It would be the worst thing BioWare could do to the story.

IT isnt a End. Never was.

Read more about it.

cheers.

[Leafs43]

If IT was correct, I'd be eagerly anticipating the DLC.

[rachellouise]

but then to get the 'proper' ending, there is only one choice. As the goal was to stop the reapers, selecting the other two would be a critical mission failure or something.

I think it would be good if it was done properly, not..this..stuff...

[Cecilia L]

No! I would not be upset. I would be relieved.

However, I would still find that Bioware treated the ragestorm badly. If IT was true it would be better if they just had said so at PAX to calm everyone preparing to throw various old vegetables at them.

[Cucobr]

rachellouise wrote...

but then to get the 'proper' ending, there is only one choice. As the goal was to stop the reapers, selecting the other two would be a critical mission failure or something.

I think it would be good if it was done properly, not..this..stuff...

no...
think a little.


If I were the writer, Shepard would be indoctrinated, but in the end, with a high EMS, He could regain consciousness to do the right thing at end and commit suicide to break the link.

This is just one example of how the game can continue if the player chooses Control or Synthesis.

[zergi]

ill scream untill the police comes and throw water balloons at them with joy,

[my Aim is True]

If IT was true and planned from the start, and all their PR statements and such had been just to frack with our heads so they could prove in the end how easily humans can be manipulated (ie indoctrinated) and they used our angry reaction as evidence that they had created the best game series ever.....

I would say that they were brilliant and I would love them forever

[rachellouise]

oh, so we undo indoctrination? The most that would be able to happen is one of our team talks us round, into realizing we're indoctrinated. Then in that moment of semi-clarity we let LI or someone kill shepard, or shepard takes their own life.

[Fl1xx]

I'd still hate it, but for different reasons. "It was all a dream" is a terrible cliche.

[nhcre8tv1]

Less. Hopefully it doesn't turn into a cop out.

[T-Bone101]

jezz is been said before they are not changing the endings.....they didn't say anything about adding tho lol

But I hope for No Indoctrination ending but if it is i'll just have to roll with it

[balance5050]

Cucobr wrote...

unlikely


Indoctrination Theory implies that Shepard is on Earth.

- The Reapers still out there
- The Citadel still out there
- The Crucible still out there

finally .. if IT is true, must start when Shepard wake up.

But the FAQ makes IT very very very very unlikely.

IT is by far the best ending in gaming history.
IT is not an "ending" proper because the game does not end there.
The only purpose of IT is to make sense at all in a brilliantly way.


But BioWare choose Artistic Integrity.
But BioWare choose Magic Space

You didn't answer the question, would you be happy if it WAS true.

[tractrpl]

zergi wrote...

ill scream untill the police comes and throw water balloons at them with joy,

ROFL! I would pay good money to see that.