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[ichik]

No, i would be happy as a child on a birthday morning.

[Orenen]

I wouldn't be upset if IT was planned before fans introduced it...If BioWare just used it to cover up Casey Hudson's and Mac Walter's terrible ending and their terrible response to the criticism...I'd still be pissed, if not more so...

After thinking about it and watching a 50 min video discussing it, I find the whole "Extended Cut", "Clarification" thing an insult...I prefer the analogy in the video:

If you invite a random stranger to your house to hang out with them and find out after they leave that they've taken your decently expensive work shoes...you'll be upset, but in the end you're at fault for trusting someone you don't even know.

Instead you invite a good friend, you trust with your life (in the case, BioWare), to your house to hang out with them and find out after they leave that your decently expensive work shoes are missing...you call them up and ask if they've seen them and they straight out say "Yeah, I took them." You ask them why and they say "because I wanted them." You're naturally upset at this betrayal of trust, but they turn it on you as if it's your fault, they've done nothing wrong.

Finally, after a heated discussion they concede, "Alright, I'll tell you what: I don't know why you're so angry but I'll buy you dinner, my treat. We'll go to McDonald's or something next month, but I'm keeping the shoes."

That's why BioWare has to do a damn good job with this "Extended Cut" or else redo the crap ending completely.

[tractrpl]

T-Bone101 wrote...

jezz is been said before they are not changing the endings.....they didn't say anything about adding tho lol

But I hope for No Indoctrination ending but if it is i'll just have to roll with it

Technically, if IT is correct then they're not changing anything.

[nickkcin11]

tractrpl wrote...

I would accept it as a better ending, but I'm upset that they only gave us the original ending, or gave us a fake ending and waited six months later to say "J/K, here's the REAL ending".

Which is why they won't do that. The Indoctrination Theory is a great EXCUSE for the ****ty endings we were given. It actually makes sense out of said endings, but it blantantly obvious to me that it's not what BW intended. There are just so many plotholes in the ending, it leads one to believe that the ending can't be real. But if that were the case, why end the game without a real ending? They'd never do that. It ends right before Shepard actually ends the war? No way. I don't believe that.

[balance5050]

Fl1xx wrote...

I'd still hate it, but for different reasons. "It was all a dream" is a terrible cliche.

It's a lot more then that, it's a battle for your mind, you obviously lost that battle.

[Joeybsmooth4]

If it is , that I would be more upset since they shipped out an unfinished game . That is if Luke faced Vader in the cave after seeing Yoda and the movie just stopped there .

[tractrpl]

balance5050 wrote...

Fl1xx wrote...

I'd still hate it, but for different reasons. "It was all a dream" is a terrible cliche.

It's a lot more then that, it's a battle for your mind, you obviously lost that battle.

I apparently lost it to, I guess. But my lack of ability to converse with the Starchild is what threw me off more than anything.

[TcomJ]

So I spent all 100+ hours trying to get best endings and get my military strength over 5000 just to get my Shep indoctrinated and reapers are not dead... TAN TAN TAN "we promise you will get the closure and the story of Shep will end. You just have to pay 60$ or more" trailers and tell me can anyone seriously be happy with this kind of treatment?

You read 7 books of Harry Potter and JK Rowling wrote at the final paragraph of the 7th book that this is all just a dream.

Wow, people really have a bad taste in literature.

[jbadm04]

There is quite the difference between disappointment and being upset/angry/hate something.

If IT would turn true, it would remove/make obsolete a lot of the crap that is the "current" ending, I would stil have a problem how BW handled this whole mess, but at least "my" problem with the ME3 ending would cease to exist.

[Terrorize69]

I'd be happy, would mean a ME4 or a expansion that hopefully BW would get right and do the series justice.

[balance5050]

TcomJ wrote...

So I spent all 100+ hours trying to get best endings and get my military strength over 5000 just to get my Shep indoctrinated and reapers are not dead... TAN TAN TAN "we promise you will get the closure and the story of Shep will end. You just have to pay 60$ or more" trailers and tell me can anyone seriously be happy with this kind of treatment?

You read 7 books of Harry Potter and JK Rowling wrote at the final paragraph of the 7th book that this is all just a dream.

Wow, people really have a bad taste in literature.

Actually its like the part in Deathly Hallows: Towards the end of the book we (the readers) are presented with a surreal conversation that takes place between Harry and Dumbeldore...at the very end of the conversation (as Harry is about to leave this dream like state), Harry asks Dumbeldore two very important things. First, he asks if everything that has just happended real? And second he asks if it has been happening in his head. Dumbeldore responds by saying of course it is happening it his head, but why should that mean that it is not real? 

It equates to a bit more than "its all a dream"

[eddieoctane]

IT makes the whole franchise playable again. The current ending leaves me feeling that every action I took across 3 games and 100+ hours was for naught. I'd rather pay another $10 for a new ending based on IT, than be out $200 or more for 5 measly coasters.

[eddieoctane]

balance5050 wrote...

TcomJ wrote...

So I spent all 100+ hours trying to get best endings and get my military strength over 5000 just to get my Shep indoctrinated and reapers are not dead... TAN TAN TAN "we promise you will get the closure and the story of Shep will end. You just have to pay 60$ or more" trailers and tell me can anyone seriously be happy with this kind of treatment?

You read 7 books of Harry Potter and JK Rowling wrote at the final paragraph of the 7th book that this is all just a dream.

Wow, people really have a bad taste in literature.

Actually its like the part in Deathly Hallows: Towards the end of the book we (the readers) are presented with a surreal conversation that takes place between Harry and Dumbeldore...at the very end of the conversation (as Harry is about to leave this dream like state), Harry asks Dumbeldore two very important things. First, he asks if everything that has just happended real? And second he asks if it has been happening in his head. Dumbeldore responds by saying of course it is happening it his head, but why should that mean that it is not real? 

It equates to a bit more than "its all a dream"

Except Harry woke up and smited Voldemort. He smited him good. Smote? Whatever. The point stands that Harry got up after his dream and won the battle on his own terms. Sometimes "it was just a dream" can work when you don't draw it out to cover the entire series. You want bad writing about dreams, look at the finale of St. Elsewhere.

[jstme]

If the ending will be fixed it will be awesome.I do not care how they will do it. IT or whatever.
Actually creativity of fans who created/spotted/prophesized/falsified IT theory deserved to be somehow integrated in the game.
But the ending has to be fixed ending of Mass Effect game, not clone of philosophy book with Matrix and Harry Potter.

[Reth Shepherd]

balance5050 wrote...

TcomJ wrote...

So I spent all 100+ hours trying to get best endings and get my military strength over 5000 just to get my Shep indoctrinated and reapers are not dead... TAN TAN TAN "we promise you will get the closure and the story of Shep will end. You just have to pay 60$ or more" trailers and tell me can anyone seriously be happy with this kind of treatment?

You read 7 books of Harry Potter and JK Rowling wrote at the final paragraph of the 7th book that this is all just a dream.

Wow, people really have a bad taste in literature.

Actually its like the part in Deathly Hallows: Towards the end of the book we (the readers) are presented with a surreal conversation that takes place between Harry and Dumbeldore...at the very end of the conversation (as Harry is about to leave this dream like state), Harry asks Dumbeldore two very important things. First, he asks if everything that has just happended real? And second he asks if it has been happening in his head. Dumbeldore responds by saying of course it is happening it his head, but why should that mean that it is not real? 

It equates to a bit more than "its all a dream"

Mind if I start quoting you? That is THE best anology I've seen on the subject!

And on topic, I would be delighted! It would mean that I have the chance to try again, with none of this 'I murdered the entire galaxy' ****.

[shepskisaac]

I don't like IT so I wouldn't be happy

[Arik7]

Releasing an unfinished game (IT) sounds pretty bad..... but not nearly as bad as the current ending.

[jmacrosoft]

MaximizedAction wrote...

If IT is correct I will probably forget most of this story but I would've been even more happy if Bioware/EA had handled this fiasco better.

THIS!!!!!!

[Ytook]

Depends how they follow on from it, I like the IT because it allows the ending to remain as is (which is apparently important to them for some reason) but also creates a blank slate. I would personally have the game still being completable even if you pick synthesis or control but the will power required to break the indoctrination (as Saren managed) leads to Shepards death, that's effectively what the ending would decide, then a victory (the extent and the costs of which would be measured by your EMS, this could include defeat) via conventional means where your specific choices (Rachni for example) would decide the fate of your friends. Some sort of confrontation with Harbinger would be good as well, a boss fight would be satisfying (if a tad impractical) but simply seeing the Normandy and all your assets thrown at the b*****d would be good.

This would mean that the game would have been sold incomplete, but to be honest with all the hinting that Bioware themselves have done (and EA's treatment of DLC) I'm convinced they had post ending DLC of some kind planned from the start, but this fan outcry hit them harder than they thought. I would be satisfied that they made a good ending to the game and mass effect, but the way they and the games media has dealt with this whole thing means I won't be buying Bioware games day 1, and until I'v seen player reactions.

[pharsti]

Personnally, id rather have the space magic than the IT, so no XD

[Denethar]

Space Magic or "It was all a dream"

Now that's a fun choice, **** or ****.

[nwj94]

Yes I would, but not because of the IT theory, but by BWs truly terrible handling of the entire scenario.

But I would be less upset than I am now.

Modifié par nwj94, 15 avril 2012 - 09:12 .

[Gammazero79]

I like indoc theory for 3 reasons: 1.It recons casper the genocidal ghost and his multicolor space magic to there rightful place of insignificance. 2. Opens up the possibility for a decent ending to Mass Effect and the ability for bioware to fix this mess with minimal effort. 3.We get to explore indoctrination 1st hand.

edit. Indoctrination is more than "just a dream" as far as the mass effect universe is concerned. We've watched others surcome to it, it's about time Shepard got his. If Shep were to be indoctrinated it would make him seem a little more human and a little less like space Jesus.

Modifié par Gammazero79, 15 avril 2012 - 09:19 .

[CountDrunku]

I would've least knew a new ending was being developed and wait till - MASS EFFECT 3 DLC - CONTINUE THE FIGHT lol
Rather pay for something than say these are the endings

[balance5050]

Denethar wrote...

Space Magic or "It was all a dream"

Now that's a fun choice, **** or ****.

Again, it's a battle for your mind, not a "dream"