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[loverboy05]

i got a geforce 9100  integrated 256 mb video card in my new computer and a 8400 geforce 512 mb gs in my old computer.       which is better for this game?

[Titius.Vibius]

Nonel, you will not be able to run it properly even on low settings.

[loverboy05]

oh what is a good cheaper alternative

[kroosaydur]

uh im pretty sure the 8400 would run the game fine. correct me if im wrong.

[Titius.Vibius]

Okay if you insist then 8400 it is!*



*not a very good gpu for current games.

[loverboy05]

the 8400 does run it ok on bare minimum graphics, but its not as fun, the 9100 works ok to but still kind of boring. I want to buy a new video card but I don't need an expensive one. at least under $100. any good ideas

[kroosaydur]

does it have to be a nvidia?

[Eurypterid]

If you're going for nvidia, and your concern is gaming, avoid anything with a second number of 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5. A cheap card to look into would be an 8800 GT (the 512 MB version). You should be able to find one for $100 or less.

[kroosaydur]

9800 GTs can be found for arounfd 100$ too.

[Xaltar81]

kroosaydur is right, check newegg. You can get a 9800GT for between $90 and $100.

[Eurypterid]

The 9800 GT is just a rebranded 8800.

[Gorath Alpha]

loverboy05 wrote...

i got a geforce 9100  integrated 256 mb video card in my new computer and a 8400 geforce 512 mb gs in my old computer.       which is better for this game?

 

The 9100 is a nothing, and won't work at all correctly.  The 8400 is bare minimum, that's all, so it will need to run at low settings and lowered screen resolutions.

You need an actual, discrete video card that has at least an "n600" performance code in its name, such as the Radeon HD 4650 has, and here's one of those on sale at Newegg for $35 after rebate:  www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx

kroosaydur wrote...

9800 GTs can be found for arounfd 100$ too.

You are leaving out the cost of buying a power supply to support the current demands of that card.  You can get several Radeons of equal speed to that one that will run on the current from a stock branded PC, for a total less than a 9800 plus its supporting power supply.

nVIDIA is now almost a year behind schedule on the followup generation to the Geforce 8000s (the 260-upward group amounts to only the high end above the 8000s / 9000s, and the 250-downward are renamed 9000s, which were 8000s before that).  Their long-term economical viability is threatened, and the (currently praojected for February) next nVIDIA generation is more about multi-GPU computing applications than about end-user graphics.

There is a "low power" Geforce 9800 GT that can run on some of the late-production branded PCs' power supplies, although I can't help you identify it.  I consider the renaming and marketing of two year old products to almost be a scam, and the second renaming to definitely be a scam, so at the present time, I only recommend Radeons.

Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 06 décembre 2009 - 08:58 .

[JazzyJenna]

Forget it... my Asus ATI 3450 Silent with 512 megs runs DAO at max and looks and runs smmoth and sweet... $85 plus tax Canadian ordered from NewEgg this is just a link to show it..

http://www.frontierp.../DI/512MD2.html



DAO runs like a dream on this card. and it's full HDMI multi port output.. and comes in a low profile configuration with the adaptor bracket.free. For any small form factor machines.

[Sam -stone- serious]

You can easily get a HD 4850 with less than 100$ and this card is nearly the same level as the first generation of GTX260 in terms of power. I got one for 89$ for my sisters PC and its far and away the most bang for buck card i have ever got. It trashes the 9800gt, gts250 and the only other card that is near its level of performance and price is the 9800GTX+. If you can find the 9800GTX+ near the same price you could go for this one as well if you are more of an Nvidia guy otherwise the HD4850 is an awesome piece of kit for the money.

Modifié par Sam -stone- serious, 06 décembre 2009 - 10:11 .

[Gorath Alpha]

JazzyJenna wrote...

Forget it... my Asus ATI 3450 Silent with 512 megs runs DAO at max and looks and runs smmoth and sweet... $85 plus tax Canadian ordered from NewEgg this is just a link to show it..
http://www.frontierp.../DI/512MD2.html

DAO runs like a dream on this card. and it's full HDMI multi port output.. and comes in a low profile configuration with the adaptor bracket.free. For any small form factor machines.

Can't accept that assertion at all.  Your definition of "MAX" is at odds with the situation.  And you paid twice what that poor POS is worth, whether in Canadian dollars or not! 

The HD 4650 for $35 after rebate also offered the low profile option, along with two to three times better performance:

www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php

There the pair is.  The 3450 trails behind, only able to reach half, or one eighth part, of the performance that the 4650 affords!  Two criteria at 50%, and two at 12 1/2 %.

Sam -stone- serious wrote...

You can easily get a HD 4850
with less than 100$ and this card is nearly the same level as the first
generation of GTX260 in terms of power. I got one for 89$ for my
sisters PC and its far and away the most bang for buck card i have ever
got. It trashes the 9800gt, gts250 and the only other card that is near
its level of performance and price is the 9800GTX+. If you can find the
9800GTX+ near the same price you could go for this one as well if you
are more of an Nvidia guy otherwise the HD4850 is an awesome piece of
kit for the money.

I hope that you also bought her a power supply upgrade.  You are writing about higher powered cards that won't run for long on a stock branded PC's small PSU. 

When you suggest one of those to someone else, always mention the need to budget for a new, and better, power supply.  The HD 4650 and HD 4670 both run on a stock pwer supply.  I believe that the very good HD 4770 may be able to do so, as well. 

Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 06 décembre 2009 - 10:41 .

[Solica]

JazzyJenna wrote...

Forget it... my Asus ATI 3450 Silent with 512 megs runs DAO at max and looks and runs smmoth and sweet... $85 plus tax Canadian ordered from NewEgg this is just a link to show it..
http://www.frontierp.../DI/512MD2.html

DAO runs like a dream on this card. and it's full HDMI multi port output.. and comes in a low profile configuration with the adaptor bracket.free. For any small form factor machines.

Whatever, I think Gorath knows what he's talking about. HD4650 and HD4670 are way better choices.They're cheap and at least the 4650 just plugs straight into any graphically challenged "office" computer without power supply hazzle and turns it into an instant gaming PC. I don't have it myself (4870instead) but it has been an epidemic amongst my friends at work. A happy epidemic that has been greatly appreciated by their kids.
It may not be as well equipped for movie playing as your silent/HDMI card, but it's much, much better for gaming. Tom's Hardware ranks 4650 five to six classes above your 3450, and it should be available for less, since I doubt my friends have paid much more than $50-60 for theirs.

[Koralis]

loverboy05 wrote...

the 8400 does run it ok on bare minimum graphics, but its not as fun, the 9100 works ok to but still kind of boring. I want to buy a new video card but I don't need an expensive one. at least under $100. any good ideas

it's not under $100, but I'd suggest stretching your budget just a little to get a better card and one that can handle DX11 as games take advantage of it, so you don't have to spend the $150 later.

http://www.newegg.co...Tech-_-14102859

[GHL_Soul_Reaver]

XFX Nvidia GTX285 does just a nice job here, would recommend that card or at least for now, else go Dual GTX260 or something or lower...

[DragonRageGT]

I'm pretty happy with my GeForce 9600 GT 512MB DDR3 - PCIex

Cheapest one I could find for the quality. I'd get the 9800GT but it was much more expensive... We still have an absurd import taxes in my country

[lizardglenn]

My GeForce 9600 GT 512MB  runs the game quite well max settings @ 1920x1080 i have turned the AA down to 2x to keep the framerate more consistant
you could look at  the ATI Radeon HD5750-70 range of cards if you have vista or Win7 & want to take advantage of DX11 games at some time

Modifié par lizardglenn, 06 décembre 2009 - 02:25 .

[ushae]

As far as I understand Dragon Age takes full advantage of multi core processors with Quad Core/Tri Core giving the best performance. If you're looking to upgrade then I'd strongly consider the following if you're interested. In terms of graphics, there are some fantastic value graphics cards out there for your choosing without having to spend a bomb.



Processor - Phenom II 720 Tri Core, it's cheap and delivers superb performance.

Graphics - Either grab a GTS 250 (Nvidia) or a HD 4850 (ATI) card, both are rock bottom prices and worth your money.

[Sam -stone- serious]

GHL_Soul_Reaver wrote...

XFX Nvidia GTX285 does just a nice job here, would recommend that card or at least for now, else go Dual GTX260 or something or lower...

Nonono, their price is prohibitive and there is a better and faster card out there with 2/3 of the price of GTX285 (thats the 5850) so there is absolutely no reason to fork out this much cash for an outdated product.

[JazzyJenna]

Well I'd honestly go with a higher end card but my HP small form factor uses a very odd sized 200 watt PSU.. very hard atm to find a suitable upgrade.. all PSU's that might work I've found so far don't offer size specs on thier websites.. and sadly... Canadian pricing sux.. anything you can buy stateside.. (other than Prescription drugs) costs at least twice as much here then in the U.S. even though our dollar is $0.95 American.just a crappy ripoff buying anything here.. my price was still the cheapest I could find anywhere in Canada for a new card. plus one rated for my pitiful 200 Watt power supply. in All though this card is very good. yes.. there's better.. but I cant run them.



I'd love to run one of the new Nvidia Quadro cards.. but at $1700 no thanks.

[Brp650]

2 8800gt in sli runs this game just fine on max settings in game and max settings in the nvidia control panel

[Gorath Alpha]

JazzyJenna wrote...

Canadian pricing sux.. anything you can buy stateside.. (other than Prescription drugs) costs at least twice as much here then in the U.S. even though our dollar is $0.95 American.just a crappy ripoff buying anything here.. my price was still the cheapest I could find anywhere in Canada for a new card. plus one rated for my pitiful 200 Watt power supply. in All though this card is very good. yes.. there's better.. but I cant run them.

I'd love to run one of the new Nvidia Quadro cards.. but at $1700 no thanks.

Whatever makes you believe a Quadro would be special for gaming purposes?  Just the price? 

Not really.  Not for games.  Those are production tools, for creating graphical code, not for playing it.  The BIOSes are seriously different, and the drivers are also very different.  Geforces are the end user cards, and nVIDIA's top end is the GTX260+ cards and the upper reaches of the 200 generation.  But ATI's Radeon HD 5000s have overtopped them all now.

Have you compared pricing with the Canadian web site for Newegg? 

There is a very inexpensive option when dealing with any of the miniscule "slimline" tiny enclosures.  Replace them entirely.  Locate a White Box dealer locally who accepts tradeins, and pay $5-$10 for a plain old mid-tower that they are going to send to the scrap dealerto be melted down, and move all of your components, other than the undersize power supply.  Get a normal size, good brand PSU, and be happy.


Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 14 février 2010 - 03:25 .