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[Baine10]

Listening is fine

Blindly listening is another thing. If fans cry for pink elephants, will Bioware add them to the game? The answer is no. People complain about broken things. Bioware should've FIXED them, instead of throwing them out into the trash.

OP, your point is invalid. Bioware listening too much is a myth. In truth, they only listened a little before getting sick and tired of feedback, because the flaw in player feedback is that douchebags always exist, and you have to sift through the douchebags, which make up 95% of your feedback.

So, OP, please consider the merit of fixing issues instead of throwing them away, like Bioware did, when players gave valid feedback.

Personally I must have converted more than 5k items into omnigel because I was too lazy to "make space" in my inventory full of maxed items and mods.

[Kreid]

The Protheans wrote...

don't remember any of that apart from the Human Reaper Larva.
Which was badly done, no one complained about Harbinger, Saren and Sovereign.

You are kidding me right?

People complained endlessly about the human reaper larva being stupid and looking like a Terminator, and also about Harbinger's one liners and how he made the Reapers looks like clowns in comparision with Sovereign.

And then you have the nerve of calling the OP misguided fool? Do your research first.

Modifié par Creid-X, 16 avril 2012 - 12:18 .

[The Protheans]

Creid-X wrote...

don't remember any of that apart from the Human Reaper Larva.
Which was badly done, no one complained about Harbinger, Saren and Sovereign.

You are kidding me right?

People complained endlessly about the human reaper larva being stupid and looking like a Terminator, and also about Harbinger's one liners and how he made the Reapers looks like clowns in comparision with Sovereign.

And then you have the nerve of calling the OP misguided fool? Do your research first.

You obviously don't understand English and no nobody complained about Harbinger.
Calling Harbinger a clown is hardly called complaining.


If you still don't get it I said the Human Reaper was done poorly.

Modifié par The Protheans, 16 avril 2012 - 12:21 .

[dbt-kenny]

Your have few good points. But you cannot please everyone all the time. Me I like the loot system and that you could upgrade your kit. No idea but was it the consol games complaining about this mostly? Yes the bland planetside exploration was a pain. But they did not have to remove it from the game, just make it a lot better. A much longer shoot-em areas would off been better. And on a number of planets. They just removed the bit people said they did not like instead of trying to improve them. The missing boss fight at then is a odd point it would of been nice if they did it right. Just killing off waves of enemies till it is time to fire your missiles was a dead bore. I was so shocked that was the end of the game. Well almost.

Now can you say an ending that is so bad, has so many plot holes you can drive a planet thought it is the players fault. I cannot see asking anyone asking for that.

[daguest]

bigbad1013 wrote...

Sauruz wrote...

So... who asked for the ending? Anybody? Raise your hands please if you asked Bioware to do this specific ending.

It was me.

What? You didn't love how artistic it was?

I can't say it's bad, because of artistic integrity.
Best excuse ever. I'm gonna use it at work each time I'm lazy and make some mistake "sorry boss, artistic integrity !".

[Storm258]

OP, just to throw in my simple opinion on this:
I never had a problem that there was no boss fight in ME 3. I didn't need one, that was not important for me. I also didn't care much that they took out the Mako or that ME 2 got more of an Action game than ME 1. Cause all 2.95 games always had this
- Good writing, a very interesting, intense story
- Extremely well written characters you really grow to care about
- You could decide most important things yourself and your choices mattered

I don't know if I missed anything, but I never noticed that any fan criticised one of these points or asked them to be removed from the games, so I don't see how you can blame the players for that.

[Kreid]

The Protheans wrote...
You obviously don't understand English and no nobody complained about Harbinger.
Calling Harbinger a clown is hardly called complaining.


If you still don't get it I said the Human Reaper was done poorly.

Yeah, I misread that bit and I apologize. Still, people ****ed endlessly about Harbinger and his THIS HURTS YOU whether you remember it or not and it's obviously one of the prime reasons he's not in ME3.

Another example is Jacob and the priiiize, was it corny and stupid? Yes it was and people complained too and so Jacob's romance was bombed in ME3, way beyond coincidence.

Modifié par Creid-X, 16 avril 2012 - 12:30 .

[The Protheans]

Creid-X wrote...

The Protheans wrote...
You obviously don't understand English and no nobody complained about Harbinger.
Calling Harbinger a clown is hardly called complaining.


If you still don't get it I said the Human Reaper was done poorly.

yeah, I misread that bit and I apologize. Still, people ****ed endlessly about Harbinger and his THIS HURTS YOU whether you remember it or not and it's obviously one of the prime reasons he's not in ME3.

I don't think it is a prime reason

As I said in my first post, a lot of things were cut in ME3.

- Harbinger
- Side Missions (Let face it, that means the mako and hammerhead got cut too)


And it could be they wanted Harbinger to be a lesser enemy and make the Reapers overall a bigger enemy, as in they're everywhere killing everyone.
Less personal and more on a grander scale, ME2 was a more personal game for shepard.

[huntsman2310]

I'm pretty sure I liked the boss fights of ME1 and 2.

But yeah, I think they were forced to remove the Mako due to so many people complaining about how it sucked ass.

I loved the Mako, it was an awesome little car.

[Kreid]

The Protheans wrote...

I don't think it is a prime reason

As I said in my first post, a lot of things were cut in ME3.

- Harbinger
- Side Missions (Let face it, that means the mako and hammerhead got cut too)


And it could be they wanted Harbinger to be a lesser enemy and make the Reapers overall a bigger enemy, as in they're everywhere killing everyone.
Less personal and more on a grander scale, ME2 was a more personal game for shepard.

It's all speculation in the end but there's a very clear pattern of impopular elements dissapearing or getting shafted (The Mako, The HAmmerhead, Harbinger, Boss fights, Jacob) while the most popular stuff gets te center of attention, you can't possibly deny this.

Modifié par Creid-X, 16 avril 2012 - 12:36 .

[Jeb231]

In a lot of ways most things which annoy me about Mass Effect came from taking feedback from this forum.

For instance Cerberus became way too prominent IMO as the main plot was drifting away from the Reapers. The fight for Earth I don't understand...I thought I was saving the galaxy...Removal of the Mako and planet exploration, the sexual harassment you are subjected to by all crew members, the increased role of many characters which never scheduled to become that important.

You know, when a company announce a trilogy I except them to know where they are going with it instead of making it on the fly depending on a forum's feedback and which characters are the most popular. This is where true artistic vision lies. And I'm sure the ending would have been better for it.

J. Michael Straczynski > Ronald D Moore

Modifié par Jeb231, 16 avril 2012 - 12:53 .

[The Protheans]

huntsman2310 wrote...

I'm pretty sure I liked the boss fights of ME1 and 2.

But yeah, I think they were forced to remove the Mako due to so many people complaining about how it sucked ass.

I loved the Mako, it was an awesome little car.

But how can you have a mako if you have no side missions or no planets to land on?

[tractrpl]

Just wanna say: Anyone complaining about the mako, please come over here so I can punch you in the face. Ok, moving on.

[The Protheans]

Creid-X wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

I don't think it is a prime reason

As I said in my first post, a lot of things were cut in ME3.

- Harbinger
- Side Missions (Let face it, that means the mako and hammerhead got cut too)


And it could be they wanted Harbinger to be a lesser enemy and make the Reapers overall a bigger enemy, as in they're everywhere killing everyone.
Less personal and more on a grander scale, ME2 was a more personal game for shepard.

It's all speculation in the end but there's a very clear pattern of impopular elements dissapearing or getting shafted (The Mako, The HAmmerhead, Harbinger, Boss fights, Jacob) while the most popular stuff gets te center of attention, you can't possibly deny this.

Side missions too.
Don't forget we hate side missions, face it without side missions the mako and hammerhead are null.

I feel I explained the Harbinger cut quite well.
There was never any real boss fights in Mass effect anyway.

Modifié par The Protheans, 16 avril 2012 - 12:40 .

[Kreid]

The Protheans wrote...

huntsman2310 wrote...

I'm pretty sure I liked the boss fights of ME1 and 2.

But yeah, I think they were forced to remove the Mako due to so many people complaining about how it sucked ass.

I loved the Mako, it was an awesome little car.

But how can you have a mako if you have no side missions or no planets to land on?

Have you considered that those elements were conneceted to the vehicle itself? No Mako=no side missions and exploration.

Side missions too.
Don't forget we hate side missions.

What is your definition of side mission? Because any mission not labeled Priority in ME3 is considered a side mission, most involve ME2 squadmates.

Modifié par Creid-X, 16 avril 2012 - 12:42 .

[tractrpl]

The Protheans wrote...

Don't forget we hate side missions.

Wut? Ok, I'm punching you in the face.

[tractrpl]

huntsman2310 wrote...

I loved the Mako, it was an awesome little car.

What are calling little?

[The Protheans]

Creid-X wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

huntsman2310 wrote...

I'm pretty sure I liked the boss fights of ME1 and 2.

But yeah, I think they were forced to remove the Mako due to so many people complaining about how it sucked ass.

I loved the Mako, it was an awesome little car.

But how can you have a mako if you have no side missions or no planets to land on?

Have you considered that those elements were conneceted to the vehicle itself? No Mako=no side missions and exploration.

Not really Mass effect 2 had loads of side missions not connected the to Hammerhead.
Lack of the Hammerhead/Mako =/= No side missions

Someone at Bioware got lazy.

Modifié par The Protheans, 16 avril 2012 - 12:43 .

[The Protheans]

tractrpl wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Don't forget we hate side missions.

Wut? Ok, I'm punching you in the face.

I'm joking.

[tractrpl]

So this is what it was about? THIS IS WHY MY MAKO AND PLANET EXPLORATIONS WERE TAKEN AWAY??? I HAD NO REASON TO COME HERE AND COMPLAIN UNTIL THE END OF ME3!! YOU BASTARDS!!!!

[The Protheans]

Creid-X wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

huntsman2310 wrote...

I'm pretty sure I liked the boss fights of ME1 and 2.

But yeah, I think they were forced to remove the Mako due to so many people complaining about how it sucked ass.

I loved the Mako, it was an awesome little car.

But how can you have a mako if you have no side missions or no planets to land on?

Have you considered that those elements were conneceted to the vehicle itself? No Mako=no side missions and exploration.

Side missions too.
Don't forget we hate side missions.

What is your definition of side mission? Because any mission not labeled Priority in ME3 is considered a side mission, most involve ME2 squadmates.

The 2 sort of side missions are Jacob and Jack which aren't really side missions, more like loyalty missions.

[tractrpl]

Seriously, I wanna KNOW who complained about the Mako!!

[Nonoru]

DJBare wrote...

Where is that quote again? I'll just paraphrase

We are proud of our work and will not be changing it

Kinda flies in the face of listening to the fans, so how can it be the fans fault?

/thread.

[T-0pel]

BS - fixing crappy inventory system does not equal take it out altogether, happy now?

[T-0pel]

tractrpl wrote...

Seriously, I wanna KNOW who complained about the Mako!!

I did, it could have been implemented way better and with better landscapes on planets, not just generic repeating patterns. But apparently the easiest solution is remove it, there, problem solved!