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[SolidisusSnake1]

Yup pretty much everything I have been saying, the ending does not match up with the themes of the ME Universe.

[ArchDuck]

Bravo, but EA/Bioware has already shown they care not for well reasoned arguments.

[LucasShark]

Brilliant: my lit prof was a hippie who liked stories about people doing nothing, wish I had this guy.

[Bigdoser]

Bioware should really read this topic but I doubt they ever will.

[Zix13]

He forgot to mention both Mac and Casey watched the second Matrix together.

[UnstableMongoose]

Saying that ME1 wasn't rushed is absolutely hilarious, and the insinuation that EA stole BioWare's integrity is somewhat...problematic in terms of presentation. Can't say I agree with your lit professor.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

I have an informative speech tomorrow about music. Who thinks I should do it about how bad the ME endings are? If only my professor would let me...

[goose2989]

 

I believe your professor and this author would get along

Modifié par goose2989, 16 avril 2012 - 05:25 .

[billida]

Crap, i'm a lit teacher, in France, and i would love my students to ask me about mass effect 3's ending. They know i'm a gamer, but i guess they don't know the saga very well. A few years ago, i could easily use quotes and examples from different american tv series, but now they are too young to even know them.

[HellbirdIV]

Apparently you don't have to be a professor of literature to see the obvious storytelling flaws in the endings, but even if you are, you're still going to see them.

[ShepnTali]

UnstableMongoose wrote...

Saying that ME1 wasn't rushed is absolutely hilarious, and the insinuation that EA stole BioWare's integrity is somewhat...problematic in terms of presentation. Can't say I agree with your lit professor.

What's your counter on his take on the theme shift, his main point?

[FirstCitizen800]

Lol, Charles Dickens and Sir Authur Conan Doyle are obviously hacks in comparison to (cough) and company. No doubt, people will be playing Mass Effect 100 years from now when those other two names are nothing but dust. Please pass the crack.

[RaenImrahl]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

I have an informative speech tomorrow about music. Who thinks I should do it about how bad the ME endings are? If only my professor would let me...

As somone who teaches a college speech course (we're on to persuasive speeches in my class), I'd advise against it, if only because, if you're going to do it, give yourself enough time to do it right. 

That said, ME3 ending is ripe for some sort of study.  I just outlined a paper for a graduate class on this over the weekend....

[Zix13]

HellbirdIV wrote...

Apparently you don't have to be a professor of literature to see the obvious storytelling flaws in the endings, but even if you are, you're still going to see them.

Hahaha well said.

[Alexius]

RaenImrahl wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

I have an informative speech tomorrow about music. Who thinks I should do it about how bad the ME endings are? If only my professor would let me...

As somone who teaches a college speech course (we're on to persuasive speeches in my class), I'd advise against it, if only because, if you're going to do it, give yourself enough time to do it right. 

That said, ME3 ending is ripe for some sort of study.  I just outlined a paper for a graduate class on this over the weekend....

Yeah, I've been thinking that this whole situation is case study material...

[sth88]

Hm, nevermind

Modifié par sth88, 16 avril 2012 - 05:33 .

[Vorodill]

Your professor has no right to say that. Mass Effect story is Bioware's property and they can do whatever they like with it. You guys don't have to like it, but it is what it is. You still want to whine about it? They are even giving you an ending DLC because your brains couldn't understand the end of the game. I'm tired of people like you. Close your web browser and move on.

And most importantly... nah, forget what I just said. I just read what I wrote and it looks like sh**. Don't stop criticizing the game! After all, they listen to your feedback!

[Bigdoser]

AlexiusDAlex wrote...

RaenImrahl wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

I have an informative speech tomorrow about music. Who thinks I should do it about how bad the ME endings are? If only my professor would let me...

As somone who teaches a college speech course (we're on to persuasive speeches in my class), I'd advise against it, if only because, if you're going to do it, give yourself enough time to do it right. 

That said, ME3 ending is ripe for some sort of study.  I just outlined a paper for a graduate class on this over the weekend....

Yeah, I've been thinking that this whole situation is case study material...

Trust me people in the future will be using me3 ending's as an example of what not to do when writing a story or developing a game. Its sad but I personally think this is going to happen. 

[pipemaster9000]

I wonder how many people in these forums are EA employees using, what was it EA called it, guerrilla marketing? Success doesn't mean you care about fans, nor does having money make you flawless. EA is terrible.

That being said, I have no doubt EA has an iron grip on BW releasing a correct ending.

[Zix13]

Bigdoser wrote...

AlexiusDAlex wrote...

RaenImrahl wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

I have an informative speech tomorrow about music. Who thinks I should do it about how bad the ME endings are? If only my professor would let me...

As somone who teaches a college speech course (we're on to persuasive speeches in my class), I'd advise against it, if only because, if you're going to do it, give yourself enough time to do it right. 

That said, ME3 ending is ripe for some sort of study.  I just outlined a paper for a graduate class on this over the weekend....

Yeah, I've been thinking that this whole situation is case study material...

Trust me people in the future will be using me3 ending's as an example of what not to do when writing a story or developing a game. Its sad but I personally think this is going to happen. 

It will also be be an example of how not to do PR. 

[Bigdoser]

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Trust me people in the future will be using me3 ending's as an example of what not to do when writing a story or developing a game. Its sad but I personally think this is going to happen. 
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It will also be be an example of how not to do PR. 

[/quote]

Oh yeah I agree the PR has been bad as well. Anyway on topic i simply don't understand what was happening when bioware was writing the endings. Did they proof read it? did it go under review? Hmm.

[RaenImrahl]

Zix13 wrote...

It will also be be an example of how not to do PR. 

Indeed.  I can see the game and its ending being examined from a public/media relations standpoint - how did they handle the reaction?

--from a literary standpoint, like the OP's professor - what were the themes of the narrative and how were they enacted?
--from a rhetorical standpoint - were the developer's arguments (within the game) effective?
-- or from a media perspective - did the developers achieve and effectively use of the medium of the action/RPG video game? (that's my take)

Modifié par RaenImrahl, 16 avril 2012 - 05:41 .

[Alexius]

It can be discussed from many angles and there'd be plenty to write about. I was also thinking something along the lines of how not to deal with a PR problem.

Modifié par AlexiusDAlex, 16 avril 2012 - 05:40 .

[FBI-Azzurri]

Wow so good teachers that actually teach and can explain something do exist? I want to go to school where you are going.

[Vorodill]

In ten years, it will be called the Mass Effect case. So many people are going to study it...

Stop it, it's too sad. Tell me we have been indoctrinated.

I don't want your professor to be right.