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Krogan Vanguard: Rage Broken


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#1
Ravennus

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Hey Everyone,

I have heard rumors of this, but I decided to test it for myself.

Used both my Krogan Soldier and Krogan Vanguard to compare, both specced completely the same in Fitness for +health/shields.

The Krogan Soldier got the +35% melee boost after entering rage, and the Vanguard did not.


It also seemed that the increased DR didn't apply on the Krogan Vanguard, but that's harder to test as I'm on Xbox and trying to compare damage from fast firing mobs.  I did test on a rocket trooper, and it didn't seem to make a difference, but that's hardly conclusive.

The melee damage increase from rage was definitely broken for the Vanguard though, for sure.


Anyone else test this out, especially the Damage Resistance?  Any word for sure if that's broken as well?


I love rage on my Krogan, and even though I didn't build my Gold-play Battlemaster around melee, it was still a nice bonus I aimed for when possible.

Hopefully Bioware is aware of this.


FOR TUCHANKA!!!! :devil:

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So yeah.. With a tiny bit of testing. Ya, the Rage bonus does not exist. On gold, vs Centurion's with fully specced melee, a headbutt before rage with do 4 bars. After rage, 4 bars.

Bleh.

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RunaKun

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Don't the rage bonuses apply to Heavy Melee?

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RxP4IN

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Well that's unfortunate. If true, I doubt Bioware is aware.

There is a bug/glitch compilation thread that's floating around here, apparently one of the devs has it book marked. If you can find the thread and confirm this glitch, you may want to PM the OP.

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Zenning

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RunaKun wrote...

Don't the rage bonuses apply to Heavy Melee?


They do.  Just tested it with my Krogan Solider.  It normally does 4 bars fully specced with Bayonet on gold jerks.  After rage, it does 6.

(This without using heavy melee by the way)

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Impulse and Compulse

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Damn, that sucks. Definitely should be fixed.

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Ravennus

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Can anyone else confirm?

What about the Damage Resistance, is that even working?
I'm finding that hard to test reliably.

Also, after playing around with it some more... it seems like the Krogan Battlemaster rage is buggier in another way. There are times that I know for a fact I killed 3 enemies in melee within 30 seconds, and the rage animation and screen change doesn't always take affect.
Sometimes it does, other times it doesn't, but it's very sketchy. This is even when I can confirm 3 melee kills within 30 seconds... not hard when testing on bronce in a solo match.

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Quxorda

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I've not had the rage triggering issue, but I had a feeling the melee evolves weren't working - his melee attacks feel substantially weaker then other Krogan or even the Battarian. Kind of silly considering a BM is supposed to be the oldest and most powerful of Krogan.

Seeing as how the Geth infiltrator also has bugs with HM, it seems the new classes are having some problems.

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Krogan rage broken??? Make krogan angry!! MMMRRRAAAAHHHH!!!

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lolpunch

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Martial Artist still works fine, but it seems that any Rage triggered bonus just doesn't work for the Battlemaster, which is annoying.

Modifié par lolpunch, 16 avril 2012 - 09:32 .


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omikron199

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Yep no difference between normal and rage. I thought my build was broken but it is not. There's simply no rage melee bonus

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Egermano

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After a good hour of testing on gold against Geth, I can confirm, that there is no additional rage damage reduction under the following circumstances:

- Barrier on
- Barrier spec: 4 - Barrier Strength, 5 - Power Synergy, 6 - Power Recharge. (Barrier Damage Reduction 20%)
- Rage spec: 4 - Durability, 5 - Martial Artist, 6 - Fitness Expert. (Rage Damage Reduction 30%, HP: 1600, Barrier 1600)

Took a while until I managed to get absolutely clean rocket shots on myself, but here are the pictures. There is no difference in HP lost under, and out of Rage.

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Edit: I've tried to replicate this on Krogan Sentinel, but I didn't manage to get a clean rocket shot under Rage. Empirically, Rage Damage Reduction works on Krogan Sentinel, but I don't have a hard proof as above. Also, I had the Rage trigger bug with the Krogan Vanguard. It didn't always trigger after 3 melee kills.

Modifié par Egermano, 16 avril 2012 - 11:30 .


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GodlessPaladin

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Yep, Krogan Vanguards don't get rage bonuses right. It's completely stupid.

I've already confirmed this (I did a video demonstrating it in the original thread I made on it).

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 16 avril 2012 - 11:45 .


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Stardusk

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Good thing I don't care about rage then...

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uzivatel

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Renaming Rage to Fitness and removing the extra bars would "fix" it?

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marshalleck

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So kroguards are broken, and I've been right to kick them from groups on sight? Excellent.

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A Wild Snorlax

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That's pretty lame, they need to fix this.

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Titus Thongger

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I did notice the kroguard's melee was a little weaker than the other two. guess rage is more of a liabiltiy now because when they enter range they tend to flex and go 'RAAAR" which makes you vulnerable to being shot and killed

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iluminatae

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Yep its broken. My Krogan soldier rage gets the bonus but the battlemaster does not. Even triggering it seems buggy.

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Quxorda

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Krogan rage is broken, Geth Infiltrator randomly decloaks and Geth sometimes cant regen shields while HM is on, Asari Justicar has problems casting Bubble,Battarian Ballistic Blades has bugged power evolves, Kishock super-glues you to cover if you charge its shot and  the Striker fires blanks.

Was the Resurgence pack released or are we currently beta testing it for release?

/edit, forgot to mention the new consumables that are completely absent from the game.

Modifié par Quxorda, 16 avril 2012 - 02:09 .


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my krogan build woops geth ass but reapers its useless on gold anyways because the banshee picks you up and kills you!

top scoring player on geth gold I'm a tank the way I am speced! I can take on almost all the enemys at once take about 5 rockets before my sheild goes down!

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Wordlywisewiz

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my krogan build woops geth ass but reapers its useless on gold anyways because the banshee picks you up and kills you!

top scoring player on geth gold I'm a tank the way I am speced! I can take on almost all the enemys at once take about 5 rockets before my sheild goes down!

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I didn't know this, but it explains a lot about the pain I experienced after trying to chain/rage on silver with some friends. I can melee much better with the soldier. This really hurts the character.

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Ravennus

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This is really disappointing, as the Battlemaster was my most anticipated new class.
I really hope this gets patched soon!

On a more humorous, I just told my girlfriend about this bug (she also plays ME3) and she said...

"Aren't Krogan Battlemasters really old? Must be their version of erectile dysfunction."

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I think the whole Rage tree is broken. I don't remember my Krogan Soldier's heavy melee to not oneshot mobs, yet my Krogan Vanguard hardly takes out two thirds of a grunts health with his heavy melee. The whole +melee damage doesn't seem to apply correctly or even at all.