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[Dinoman666]

lonedude73 wrote...

Dinoman666 wrote...

Sparatus wrote...

Dinoman666 wrote...

No peace, then? D:

I'm going with peace every single time if I ever replay the game. But that specific Shepard was just tired of dealing with the geth for three straight games.

But I seriously felt like crying when I had to kill Legion. Then Tali goes all, "we just had to murder a friend to get this" and I felt worse.

Then I was all, "****! He was strangling me!"

Fair enough.

The only reason I would ever NOT choose peace is to see Tali finally use that freakin' knife for once. And, well, that's not a really a good excuse...

It's hard to see legionbro and taligal fight

You know, it sort of goes back to my core argument: both sides do what they did out of necessity. Tali doesn't want to kill Legion, and Legion doesn't want to kill Shepard, but they were forced too. The same goes for the Morning War and the events of the Quarian-Geth conflict during the Reaper War. The Geth did what they deemed was necessary to survive, no matter how extreme, and the Quarians did what they deemed necessary in order to survive, no matter how extreme.

Also, Legionbro is the best name for a Geth ever.

Modifié par Dinoman666, 16 avril 2012 - 10:31 .

[Kog12]

moater boat wrote...

How do I know they killed quarian babies? After the Morning war there were only 17 million quarians left alive. I don't know how many there were to begin with, but it stands to reason that there were at least several billion. That means that only a fraction of a percent of all the Quarians survived. The only possible explanation is that the Geth killed millions of Quarian infants.

Now can we all get over our irrational love affair with these psychopathic, xenophobic, backstabbing robots.


Edit: I didn't expect all these responses, I am having trouble responding to all of them. I didn't realize how many people were brainwashed...

Edit: population of Rannoch was 10 billion before the war. That means 99.83% of Quarians were killed. To put this in perspective, that would be like wiping out all humans on Earth, except the population of Ohio. This isn't what civil war looks like. This is obviously an extermination.

Offense is the best defense. You take the line too literally. You dont just defend your nation only when youre being attacked.

[lonedude73]

Drummernate wrote...

I cannot believe they even included the option to kill Legion. Especially so brutally!!!

Makes me doubt any Mass Effect 4 purchases... would they kill my favorite races and characters in that one too?

If you kill all the geth. legion will be stuipid. literally. he would have no consensus 

[TheWerdna]

I think this whole debate is stupid, because, lets face it, neither side are completely blameless. Yes the Quarians started the fighting, but the Geth killed over 99% of their population in response. There are reasons to sympathise with both sides (For the Geth its that they were defending themselves, and want peace. The Quarians is that they were driven from their homeworld and became outcasts for the next 300 years and treated badly by almost everyone.), just as there are reasons to hate both sides. I personally hold sympathy with both, and thus pursued peace.

Honestly though, one thing needs to be said, You cannot condemn the entire Quarian race for what was done 300 years prior. Not only are they the decedents and thus not directly at blame; but also i think they have pirty much already payed for their actions (lost their homeworld and all colonies, 99% of population dead, shuned, hated, and all around treated badly by every other race.)

Now, blame can be reasonably placed on them due to their actions in ME3. But, well, i attest that more to their leadership being filled with some really dumb people, so I am not going to respond by killing their entire race due to some bad decisions from some really dumb people (I do wish i could have just shot Han'Gerrel and be done with it, but meh I got peace in the end)

[OGWS]

Obviously the Quarians sent wave after wave of their own men at the killbots until they reached their kill limit and temporarily shut down, allowing the 17 million to escape.

In all seriousness though, I would have to agree with the "derped" theory, because the alternative is that the Geth really are genocidal killbots, and I like them too much to accept that at face value. I mean, 9.9 billion is a staggering amount of deaths. Even if the Quarians started it, in that case the Geth went too far I think.

I've always liked the Quarians and still do, but it seems they are really bad at choosing their leadership, huh?

Also, I completely agree with the above post

Modifié par OGWS, 16 avril 2012 - 10:36 .

[TheWerdna]

OGWS wrote...

Obviously the Quarians sent wave after wave of their own men at the killbots until they reached their kill limit and temporarily shut down, allowing the 17 million to escape.

In all seriousness though, I would have to agree with the "derped" theory, because the alternative is that the Geth really are genocidal killbots, and I like them too much to accept that at face value. I mean, 9.9 billion is a staggering amount of deaths. Even if the Quarians started it, in that case the Geth went too far I think.

I've always liked the Quarians and still do, but it seems they are really bad at choosing their leadership, huh?

Agreed, only Admral vas Quib Quib and Tali seem to be their only sane leadership.

[lonedude73]

 

war over time to buid a house

[Dinoman666]

Sparatus wrote...

And really, if your computer refused to turn off and started asking questions, wouldn't you also freak the **** out?

Laptop: "Sorry Dave, I can't do that..."

Me: "....****."

In all seriousness to the above posts, however, yes, Han'Gerrel was an absolute moron in ME3, and Daro'Xen was, well, Daro'Xen. Not much more to be said, really.

Shala'Raan was forgivable, but lacking in conviction and courage to express her opinion. She was a victim of groupthink, I believe.

Zaal'Koris was awesome, and I romanced Tali, so there's that. Too bad the smart ones were apparently in the minority when Shala chickened out and went for the "popular" vote...

[Drummernate]

lonedude73 wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

I cannot believe they even included the option to kill Legion. Especially so brutally!!!

Makes me doubt any Mass Effect 4 purchases... would they kill my favorite races and characters in that one too?

If you kill all the geth. legion will be stuipid. literally. he would have no consensus 

Legion is an individual platform he does not need other Geth, he has like 1180 or something of them combined into him.

[lonedude73]

Drummernate wrote...

lonedude73 wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

I cannot believe they even included the option to kill Legion. Especially so brutally!!!

Makes me doubt any Mass Effect 4 purchases... would they kill my favorite races and characters in that one too?

If you kill all the geth. legion will be stuipid. literally. he would have no consensus 

Legion is an individual platform he does not need other Geth, he has like 1180 or something of them combined into him.

oops forgot that
he will be lonely thou

[Drummernate]

lonedude73 wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

lonedude73 wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

I cannot believe they even included the option to kill Legion. Especially so brutally!!!

Makes me doubt any Mass Effect 4 purchases... would they kill my favorite races and characters in that one too?

If you kill all the geth. legion will be stuipid. literally. he would have no consensus 

Legion is an individual platform he does not need other Geth, he has like 1180 or something of them combined into him.

oops forgot that
he will be lonely thou

And as for saying Legion would be stupid... I am afraid I have to slap you.

*SLAP!*

Even when he was dead he was still smarter than Ashley!

[lonedude73]

Drummernate wrote...

lonedude73 wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

lonedude73 wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

I cannot believe they even included the option to kill Legion. Especially so brutally!!!

Makes me doubt any Mass Effect 4 purchases... would they kill my favorite races and characters in that one too?

If you kill all the geth. legion will be stuipid. literally. he would have no consensus 

Legion is an individual platform he does not need other Geth, he has like 1180 or something of them combined into him.

oops forgot that
he will be lonely thou

And as for saying Legion would be stupid... I am afraid I have to slap you.

*SLAP!*

Even when he was dead he was still smarter than Ashley!

do you want him to be like this

[Drummernate]

Sparatus wrote...

I didn't really find Legion's sacrifice as sad as Mordin's.

Legion... falls down. And I laugh. It's the way he falls down, it's so unintentionally hilarious.

If you are a renegade and chose to do so after for some stupid reason choosing to save the Quarians....

You can shoot him 3 times.... once in the face as he looks helplessly at you, did you not try that one?

Modifié par Drummernate, 16 avril 2012 - 11:02 .

[Drummernate]

lonedude73 wrote...


do you want him to be like this

Nah dude, even without other Geth, me and Legion would be doing some mystery solving... maybe sneaking past? If not then I would just have him sing a few songs to me... he is actually a great singer!

[lonedude73]

Drummernate wrote...

lonedude73 wrote...


do you want him to be like this

Nah dude, even without other Geth, me and Legion would be doing some mystery solving... maybe sneaking past? If not then I would just have him sing a few songs to me... he is actually a great singer!

 good man

[Lethys1]

moater boat wrote...

How do I know they killed quarian babies? After the Morning war there were only 17 million quarians left alive. I don't know how many there were to begin with, but it stands to reason that there were at least several billion. That means that only a fraction of a percent of all the Quarians survived. The only possible explanation is that the Geth killed millions of Quarian infants.

Now can we all get over our irrational love affair with these psychopathic, xenophobic, backstabbing robots.


Edit: I didn't expect all these responses, I am having trouble responding to all of them. I didn't realize how many people were brainwashed...

Edit: population of Rannoch was 10 billion before the war. That means 99.83% of Quarians were killed. To put this in perspective, that would be like wiping out all humans on Earth, except the population of Ohio. This isn't what civil war looks like. This is obviously an extermination.

You can't fight a polite war.  When extinction is on the line especially.  The Quarians caused this conflict and continued it and persisted.

Modifié par Lethys1, 16 avril 2012 - 11:13 .

[Ender Ghost]

Lethys1 wrote...

moater boat wrote...

How do I know they killed quarian babies? After the Morning war there were only 17 million quarians left alive. I don't know how many there were to begin with, but it stands to reason that there were at least several billion. That means that only a fraction of a percent of all the Quarians survived. The only possible explanation is that the Geth killed millions of Quarian infants.

Now can we all get over our irrational love affair with these psychopathic, xenophobic, backstabbing robots.


Edit: I didn't expect all these responses, I am having trouble responding to all of them. I didn't realize how many people were brainwashed...

Edit: population of Rannoch was 10 billion before the war. That means 99.83% of Quarians were killed. To put this in perspective, that would be like wiping out all humans on Earth, except the population of Ohio. This isn't what civil war looks like. This is obviously an extermination.

You can't fight a polite war.  When extinction is on the line especially.  The Quarians caused this conflict and continued it and persisted.

I doubt it was entirely the Geths' fault, the quarians had civilians on their warships, if there were child death's then it was probably colateral.

[Drummernate]

On topic...

Do you really think the Geth would care?

How many Geth platforms had been created not even a day before that had gone and been killed in battle?

They probably see killing infants as no different than killing fresh Geth.

[Kastrenzo]

there weren't necessarily 17 million post war, the number was likley higher. without a planet they were a dying race. they pretty much had 0 population growth and it was just going downhill

[Dinoman666]

Sparatus wrote...

Drummernate wrote...
If you are a renegade and chose to do so after for some stupid reason choosing to save the Quarians....

You can shoot him 3 times.... once in the face as he looks helplessly at you, did you not try that one?

That is my canon.

I actually liked that scene because I did feel guilty about it.

Can't shoot Mordin though. That one is really hard to watch.

Is it wrong that I have such an emotional attachment to these characters that I became mostly Paragon and refused to kill anyone whatsoever (except, you know, all the enemies...)?

I mean, at first I just thought Legion was a cool addition to the team in ME2, but once I started talking to him, he wound up at the top of my list alongside Tali, Garrus (ultimate bro), Wrex, and Mordin.

[Chaoswind]

moater boat wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

Yes. Strap enough guns on it so that one liveiship actually rivals a military dreadnaught.

Only for defense though.

Strap enough guns on it so that one liveiship actually rivals a military dreadnaught.

But you're never going to use it.

Yeah. Right.

What do you not understand about the civilian fleet HIDING from the Geth on the other side of the star? It was IN THE GAME! We were literally shown the battle happening over here with the military forces, and the civilian forces staying far away. Why are you trying to pretend that didn't happen?

They hid after the Geth began to KICK THEIR ****ING ASS.

Is like 3 guys jump on another to kill him, and suddently they are meet by 10 people that came to help the guy they jumped, just because one of them ran away to hid doesn't make him an agresor