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[paincanbefun]

personally, i'm annoyed when people want to bring a level 5 character into a public silver game.  even if their high n7 means that they can stay alive- if everyone else holds the line- their utility is low.

about a third of my pub silvers fail anyway, even with all 20s, so asking us to take a handicap right off the bat so you level faster seems rude to me.  it is also asking me to trust that the player can stay alive in the first place, and while some certainly can, if i don't know you, why would i assume anything?

i usually leave the lobby if there is a player below about 14 for silver, but i see so many people do this that i wonder how common my attitude is.  what level, in your opinion, (for a person you don't know) is too low for silver?

[vivanto]

I've had the same thought pattern, until I hosted a silver game with my lvl 1 krogan and lvl 13 AA friend + 2 randoms (17-19). Didn't even realize my hypocrisy until I saw that we did silver on the final scoreboard. It went well, so I guess its not a big deal, and I got to lvl 10 in one match.

Modifié par vivanto, 16 avril 2012 - 01:14 .

[IndomitusRex]

I'll go as low as about lvl 10 for silver, as long as the N7 is decently high and the load-out isn't just goofy (i.e. Salarian Engineer with a Black Widow and a Revenant). This weekend was terrible for trying to get Silver games going. If your N7 level matches your character level you don't belong in Silver.

[marshalleck]

IndomitusRex wrote...

I'll go as low as about lvl 10 for silver, as long as the N7 is decently high and the load-out isn't just goofy (i.e. Salarian Engineer with a Black Widow and a Revenant). This weekend was terrible for trying to get Silver games going. If your N7 level matches your character level you don't belong in Silver.

I'd take an equal level N7/character player on silver in the teens as long as their loadout isn't stupid. But I would definitely be looking at their loadout, for sure.

Modifié par marshalleck, 16 avril 2012 - 01:15 .

[Baine10]

To me the guns, not the level, matter. It's fine as long as your character is level 3 and above for silver as long as you possess a level 10 gun, and make up for the lack of level with mark 3 equipment.

[Ferretinabun]

I usually wait until I'm lv 16 ish before I feel confident enough to try silver. But it depends on the build. Some you get the hang of pretty damn quickly and they don't really need a high level to be effective - say around 10/11.

Having said that, I never kick anyone just for having a low score. If they want to give it a go on silver, more power to them. I won't babysit them on silver like I might on bronze, though. If they croak, all the more points for me.

[We Tigers]

IndomitusRex wrote...

I'll go as low as about lvl 10 for silver, as long as the N7 is decently high and the load-out isn't just goofy (i.e. Salarian Engineer with a Black Widow and a Revenant). This weekend was terrible for trying to get Silver games going. If your N7 level matches your character level you don't belong in Silver.

I agree, and not just because we rock the same Grunt avatar. Hard to justify playing less than level 10 in a public game. With friends, sure, we'll all take level 5+ characters because we know each other's tendencies and play well together. Public, I'm more discriminating. I always check the overall spread before readying up--one vanguard with an assault rifle and heavy shotgun, okay. One N7 30/level 15 soldier, okay. One level 5 infiltrator, okay. Start adding those up, though, and I'm off to greener space-pastures.

[Dashmundo]

vivanto wrote...

I've had the same thought pattern, until I hosted a silver game with my lvl 1 krogan and lvl 13 AA friend + 2 randoms (17-19). Didn't even realize my hypocrisy until I saw that we did silver on the final scoreboard. It went well, so I guess its not a big deal, and I got to lvl 10 in one match.

If we're thinking about the same silver game, it was actually:
- Level 1 Krogan
- Level 1 Engineer
- Level 12 AA
- Level 12 Infiltrator.

Cerberus Silver. Nice run. It's easily done, if you communicate and the players are decent. If I see a high N7 with a sub-5 level, I assume he's experienced enough to know how to play with a low level character in silver.

[stysiaq]

I think that you just need a decent gun and perhaps one power to spam to do good on silver.

Low level infiltrator with Tactical Cloaka and a Widow is 70% of high level infiltrator anyway.
The same goes for engie, just grab your Vindicator, level up overload and you're good to go on silver.

Wouldn't trust low-level  human sentinels/any adepts though, they need 2 powers leveled to start their BE spamfest.

Modifié par stysiaq, 16 avril 2012 - 01:24 .

[Unnamed_Shadow]

i mostly play on gold...so the numbers on silver dont really face me anymore...i can do pretty well with a level 1 character on silver...

if the guys im playing with are bad i might even take 1st place...

[Adam2190]

I do silver on level 5-6 characters all the time, i still top the score board quite often as well. Really silver can even be done with a level 1 character if you play it smart and have good weapons.

[jotun04]

If they're using good weapons and not trying to rely on powers, it doesn't really matter.

[Drummernate]

I use level 1's-20's all the time on Silver...

My guns are all level X, my skill level is level XI. So it usually works out fine.

[Knubbsal]

One can never be too low for a silver game.

[dnaxv]

The other day I had a level 5 and a level 1 on my team in the same silver game. I brought my infiltrator to make sure we'd win. And we did. They actually did a really good job for being that low level. Certainly a case by case issue.

[RogenTAU]

I took Turian Soldier on level 1 to Silver game, and it performed quite well.
Of course i prepared for it, i had Ravenant X, with max level mods, and level III consumables.
That way i was able to keep pace with the rest, and even perform better that other players it that match.
If you look at the bonuses from the skills you can notice that the biggest bonuses are received at level I of particular skill tree. So with two skills at level 1 you can have usable character, if it not depending on power usage, and if you compensate with consumables. Also knowing what you are doing is essential.

Please look at what the player have equipped, and what class he is, before you kick him out.
Combat classes, can have lower level if they have right equipment, than caster classes, where the equipment is secondary.

[vivanto]

Dashmundo wrote...

vivanto wrote...

I've had the same thought pattern, until I hosted a silver game with my lvl 1 krogan and lvl 13 AA friend + 2 randoms (17-19). Didn't even realize my hypocrisy until I saw that we did silver on the final scoreboard. It went well, so I guess its not a big deal, and I got to lvl 10 in one match.

If we're thinking about the same silver game, it was actually:
- Level 1 Krogan
- Level 1 Engineer
- Level 12 AA
- Level 12 Infiltrator.

Cerberus Silver. Nice run. It's easily done, if you communicate and the players are decent. If I see a high N7 with a sub-5 level, I assume he's experienced enough to know how to play with a low level character in silver.

Yeah, that was it, for some reason I thought they were higher level.

[Sean]

My rule is 12+ for silver, with randoms, and 18+ for gold, again with randoms.

I know people can be good but I don't care, if I am hosting the game then it gets down to my rules. How do I know that the level 7 who wants to be in my silver or gold game is any good since I have never been in a game with that person before.

I have allowed a level 10 with N7 rating of 900 and he was bad so now I don't allow them.

N7 rating means nothing.

[cronshaw]

Just played a public game where a level 1 infiltrator/ N7 1 joined a match. I told them they could stay (the other two wanted to kick) as long as they stayed with the team. If they went off and died too far away we weren't going to revive them. They did fine, only died a couple times and they stayed close enough to be revived. They didn't finish with a ton of points but they weren't really a burden. (actually stayed w/me in the hacking circle while the higher level characters went off and got killed). Point being i guess is that a level one character shouldn't be a big drag on a team in silver unless they are a crappy player. And if they are a crappy player they are probably going to be a drag no matter what their N7 level is.

Modifié par modok8, 16 avril 2012 - 02:57 .

[Igipopp]

RX_Sean_XI wrote...

N7 rating means nothing.

I only ask people to leave if they join a silver lobby with N7 1 and lvl 1 characters with lvl 1 avenger. 

[KaeserZen]

There are many players with level 5 characters and not X weapons that can drastically outscore guys who think like you.

If you think this works like an MMO where stats matter most, it's no wonder 33% of your PUGs fail a run.

[maxtofunator]

I don't care if they join as a low level, as long as they know their class. I will question people with less than n7 20 at least, but I won't kick them. I've made it through silvers with only 3 people, and level does not mean a lot for certain people, yes it means better cooldowns and more health/shields but the game is about being smart, not high leveled.

[Autochthon]

stysiaq wrote...

I think that you just need a decent gun and perhaps one power to spam to do good on silver.

Low level infiltrator with Tactical Cloaka and a Widow is 70% of high level infiltrator anyway.
The same goes for engie, just grab your Vindicator, level up overload and you're good to go on silver.

Wouldn't trust low-level  human sentinels/any adepts though, they need 2 powers leveled to start their BE spamfest.

level5 infiltrator with a sniper and everything put into tactical cloak one shots anything on silver anyway. So more like 90% of a level 20.

And a level 1 soldier with a good gun is the same as a level 20. Just a little squishier.

[Wesus]

Solo'd silver on lvl2 so idk what the issue is