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[Micah3sixty]

My Saber II is a fairly decent AR, the only one I use if I use an AR. But until I get it to a higher rank than it is now, I don't use it much, and prefer the lighter but near equal power of the Paladin III or Carnifex VI.

[thegamefreek78648]

It is a great weapon in the hands of someone who is good at sharpshooting, slap a scope on it and you have a poor mans widow. Ive used it to great effect on my soldiers as my long range weapon, paired up with either a Geth Plasma Shot gun or the Graal Spike Launcher for close range work.

[Drummernate]

It is only as good as the person holding it.

[Sacrificial Bias]

thegamefreek78648 wrote...

It is a great weapon in the hands of someone who is good at sharpshooting, slap a scope on it and you have a poor mans widow. Ive used it to great effect on my soldiers as my long range weapon, paired up with either a Geth Plasma Shot gun or the Graal Spike Launcher for close range work.

The irony in that being that a Widow is far easier to obtain than the Saber, and far more rewarding as far as damage goes.  Again, why would anyone choose it over the Mattock?  Both weapons have a large magazine, so neither one can properly be utilized with TC.  The Mattock is lighter, has significantly higher DPS, and is much more forgiving of missed headshots.  And again, a Mattock I has nearly 200 more DPS than a Saber I.  Of course, pure DPS isn't everything if you can't fire the weapon at its maximum rate.  I feel the Mattock sits in the sweet spot where you can fire it as fast as the RoF allows, unlike the Hornet or Shuriken.  Though considering that it would be easier to get a Mattock X before you get a Saber I, that just makes the Saber all the more useless when you look at the 883.50 DPS of the Mattock X next to the 518.67 DPS of the Saber I.  Seems utterly inferior IMO.

[JTitor]

It can be good if you deal with the recoil, if you can do that and get consistent headshots the gun is ok.

[astheoceansblue]

It's OK. Much better options out there if you want to maximise efficiency, though. Even if you head-shot like hell. Even on a Turian. The Carnifex is better for its weight.

Modifié par astheoceansblue, 25 avril 2012 - 09:41 .

[spyro396]

imagine it at level 10. my god...

[C2Dre]

M99 is the only UR weapon I don't have, and it's the one I want most .

[GroverA125]

Imagine a viper with double damage, no scope, and recoil similar to a carnifex, with the same weight as a widow.

Yes, it's very good, it's excellent in fact. Anyone who can't use it will probably say that it needs a scope and stabilizer to use it properly, which you really don't.

It has the exact same damage as a black widow, which you can further improve with a barrel mod, and given AP capabilities, it works better than any rifle I've ever used. only thing is: it require a lot of focus, use of cover for mid-long range, and calm firing. The RoF is higher than the recoil reset, meaning that there's a brief period where you have absolutely no accuracy but can still fire, wait for this to subside before you fire your next shot, this with the mentioned mods, this thing is excellent, and can in certain cases, one-shot an engineer or pyro if you aim it properly. It's got enough power that a well placed shot through the chest will wipe their shield and hit their backpacks, causing them to detonate.

The damage is amazing, the capacity is amazing in comparison, the only things that let it down are the recoil, RoF and weight, and they aren't actually that bad. My favourite rifle by far, anyone who says otherwise clearly has no idea how to use it. This thing can put a Salarian infiltrator to shame if you know how to use it. Once you get it, combined with the damage and AP, give it a human soldier and it makes the class damn close to gold-worthy, and mines only level 1.

Modifié par GroverA125, 25 avril 2012 - 03:46 .

[Gethseme]

Love how you say "no idea how to use it" when simple math proves it is inferior to the Paladin of equal level or a Carnifex 5 levels higher in rank.

I love how it sounds and consistantly have been scoring very well in gold with it, but I just can't justify using it over it's much lighter, higher damage/ROF counterparts.

Until they buff it more, it'll sadly sit next to my Wraith in the cabinet of "Nice to look at but outclaased" weapons.

[GroverA125]

JTitor wrote...

It can be good if you deal with the recoil, if you can do that and get consistent headshots the gun is ok.

That's what its all about, it's like the Arc pistol, if you try to spray bullets all down the range, then you're going to end up getting killed, the recoil is not a flaw, it's a feature, to tell you "if you can't do it in one bullet, don't do it at all".

Also, comparing it to the carnifex: it has 20% more damage, 33% more ammo per mag and more spare ammo rivaling it when it's at level 1, all for the cost of a bit of weight, and a 20% slower fire rate. In my professional and personal opinion: It's bloody well worth it for anyone but the power-heavy classes like the adepts.

[Firmijn]

I love it in combinations with my batarian sentinel. In fact, only weapon for me that works with that character.

[acrb101]

My Krogan soldier uses it. You can engage at a longer range compared to other assault rifles with increased damage. It doesn't do well in close quarters because has a slow RoF. It could use a buff, but I see it as a viable option for soldiers and sentinels.

[GroverA125]

Gethseme wrote...

Love how you say "no idea how to use it" when simple math proves it is inferior to the Paladin of equal level or a Carnifex 5 levels higher in rank.

I love how it sounds and consistantly have been scoring very well in gold with it, but I just can't justify using it over it's much lighter, higher damage/ROF counterparts.

Until they buff it more, it'll sadly sit next to my Wraith in the cabinet of "Nice to look at but outclaased" weapons.

So by your logic, then the black widow is also obsolete then. BW and Sabot both have virtually identical damage, except the Sabre has nearly triple the magazine, the same RoF, and more spare ammo, AND the same weight.

Simple math does NOT prove it's more effective, it proves that the carnifex is lighter and has more damage when its 5 levels higher, do those levels grant it an extra 2 shots per mag? No it doesn't. One has one feature attractive to you, another has a feature that doesn't interest you as much. Other people like this feature more, but just because you don't, the weapon is immediately inferior.

PS: You just used a carnifex as your point. You're point is immediately invalid. You just said the equivalent of "well the claymore, disciple, graal, katana, eviscerator and scimitar are obsolete because the GPS is better". Using a weapon that has been universally accepted as one of the most overpowered weapons in the game, which outmodes everything, as an example immediately makes anything you say worth nothing. It's the Godwin's law of the Mass Effect universe.

Modifié par GroverA125, 25 avril 2012 - 04:17 .

[mybudgee]

Seems good for role-playing... When/if I get one I might use it for my Krogan Sentinel...

[Quikraptor]

@GroverA125

Your logic is the one I agree with. I like to read the descriptions, and from what I can tell... A lot of the weapons are good in their own rights. In this case, the Saber is an AR version of the paladin, good for people who play soldiers or have AR weight reduction. Even better for those with the good fortune to have it leveled up.

In my opinion, weapons shouldn't just match the idea of DPS, it should also match the idea that certain race/class combos are better with certain weapons than others. Human soldier is good with assault rifles, batarians are better with shotguns, for example. It's all about weight reduction. Because let's face it... If you're an adept using a gun, it doesn't matter too much aside from keeping 200% recharge speed.

[Star fury]

The best AR in the game. Still worse than heavy pistols, sniper rifles and shotguns.

[landylan]

dont be mislead by the bars. it does more dmg than the carnifex. its an animal if you consistently land headshots

[SOMETHING_FOR_NOTHING]

Saints_ wrote...

 It's N7 so I figure it might be, but wanted to check before I used it. I only have the first version.

2 things would fix this gun....


Make it automatic, and give it like 100 ammo capacity

[-Morbid-]

I like using it on my human soldier.

Unless you just like it, there is really no reason to use it over a Paladin or Carnifex though. In my opinion, it either needs a weight decrease or a damage increase to help give you a reason to use it over either one of those.

[N7 Banshee Bait]

The fire rate is way too slow for it to be any good as an assault rifle. It might be powerful & accurate but you can't clear out a room like you can with the Revenant or Phaeston. The Saber is really a sniper rifle.

[zhk3r]

It's not bad - but I prefer the Paladin. Mostly because I'm disgusted by the sound the Saber makes.

[SOMETHING_FOR_NOTHING]

zhk3r wrote...

It's not bad - but I prefer the Paladin. Mostly because I'm disgusted by the sound the Saber makes.

thats the sound of BADASSFULLY

[zhk3r]

SOMETHING_FOR_NOTHING wrote...

thats the sound of BADASSFULLY

It's so badass it makes me want to destroy my headset after the first thermal clip.

[vGriMz]

It's awesome when you use it with a Turian. Otherwise I'd go for the Mattock, but if you can get consistent headshots use the Saber, make sure you get some stability.