Not to nail myself on the foot here (since I also got saves of Liara being my maleShep's LI), but I'm just wondering why you people think Liara is such an awesome love interest? If she was human, with the proper human age span, would you actually date her?
I mean, she just seem so plan expressionwise. She talks more like a robot compared to her own kin, she speech pattern is seeming more elderly compared to the matriarchs themselves, despite she's still considered a "child" among her people. She's socially awkward, mostly being to herself during her first century, a bookworm.
I'm trying not to talk down about her, I still like her to an extent, but it's just these small details that irks me. Would you people mind tell me what's the actual pros and cons of choosing her as Shepard's love interest?
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Posté 16 avril 2012 - 09:56
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She's intelligent, as she knows so much about the Protheans. She's very caring, because she always asks how Shep is doing and sympathizes with him/her. Liara is a very trustworthy character. She's very cute when she's shy, too, to me.
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Posté 16 avril 2012 - 09:58
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Sperizer wrote...
She's intelligent, as she knows so much about the Protheans. She's very caring, because she always asks how Shep is doing and sympathizes with him/her. Liara is a very trustworthy character. She's very cute when she's shy, too, to me.
That's why I and many others find her the most charming in the first game before she has become all "Have you ever faced an Asari commando unit before?".
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Posté 16 avril 2012 - 10:01
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Doesn't bother me, but I get what you mean.
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Posté 16 avril 2012 - 10:06
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Loved her shyness, awkwardness, intelligence in ME1 but then she became crazy stalker lady and now I REALLy dislike her.
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Posté 16 avril 2012 - 10:07
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Had this been in a fantasy setting (although it's pretty much hinted much of the setting of the Mass Effect franchise is reminding of such), then her way of talking could've worked just fine on some kind of elf or very long-living races in general. But when you face lots of asari speaking in a modern way, with few exceptions like Samara (although she's a Space Paladin, go figure), she sticks out a wee bit much to my taste sometimes.
What were the thoughts behind her character development, really?
What were the thoughts behind her character development, really?
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Posté 16 avril 2012 - 10:12
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How do you speak elderly? I've never heard of that before. I guess because she's intellectual?
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Posté 16 avril 2012 - 10:17
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ENorman94 wrote...
Loved her shyness, awkwardness, intelligence in ME1 but then she became crazy stalker lady and now I REALLy dislike her.
She IS quite stalky in ME3
. It becomes especially wierd that it is Liara who keeps coming up to your cabin all the time to talk if she is not your LI and never was in ME1.
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Posté 16 avril 2012 - 10:22
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I still don't see how saving shep's life makes her a 'crazy stalker'. While the rest of Shep's team grieved or sat on their butts whichever it was, Liara made sure shep's lifeless body did not reach the collectors who where going to give it to the reapers.. or did everyone miss that?
it was the events of saving shep's body that changed liara from the sweet shy girl to the full grown woman she was in ME2 and 3. I thought the game fully explains this.. shep could ask Liara why she was so hell bent on going after the shadow broker and she explains it fully.
it was the events of saving shep's body that changed liara from the sweet shy girl to the full grown woman she was in ME2 and 3. I thought the game fully explains this.. shep could ask Liara why she was so hell bent on going after the shadow broker and she explains it fully.
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Posté 16 avril 2012 - 10:24
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Jestina wrote...
How do you speak elderly? I've never heard of that before. I guess because she's intellectual?
Perhaps I'm using the wrong definition here. But her talking this somewhat monotone, articulated, like a VI. Hard to explain, but it just sticks out to how people normally would talk. Or at least how the majority does, I've yet to meet anyone in real life who does so in order to compare.
But, like I said, it's all nitpicking. Still want more elaborate explanations why people choose her.
Intelligent? Fine, I agree.
Shy? I'd rather call her socially inexperienced than shy, but that's just me.
Stalker? I do kinda agree, even at the very beginning. In ME1, the buildup to the relationship always seemed crudely executed to me.
I mean, it basically was this: "Shepard, you got in touch with a Prothean beacon, you are so special and compelling, mostly likely because it's affiliated to my highest hobby in life and not because I've sneakpeeked into your background database initially. Yet despite being over a hundred years old, my relationship skill only match of an eight-year old. Do you feel the same for me, now?"
*bunkers down for the impending fan bombardment*
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Posté 16 avril 2012 - 10:25
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Her VA work is among the worst in the squadmate section because she is just so monotone. Her back story is also dull...she has a powerful mother and played in the dirt for 50 years. The main reason she is so popular is because is fits almost perfectly into male power fantasy.
Ever since she set foot on the Normandy she has centered her life around Shepard even if not romanced. She does what Shepard wants...has she ever once opposed Shepard's actions or questioned his judgement?
The sudden change between ME1 and ME2 Liara to keep her plot relevent is also unreasonable. In two years someone who could barly talk to someone when looking them in the eyes becomes an all powerful information broker?
At the end of the day I can see why people like her but she is so forced into the story after ME1 I wish we could kick her off the ship. Someone as valuable as the shadowbroker should not be part of an active battle field anyway.
Ever since she set foot on the Normandy she has centered her life around Shepard even if not romanced. She does what Shepard wants...has she ever once opposed Shepard's actions or questioned his judgement?
The sudden change between ME1 and ME2 Liara to keep her plot relevent is also unreasonable. In two years someone who could barly talk to someone when looking them in the eyes becomes an all powerful information broker?
At the end of the day I can see why people like her but she is so forced into the story after ME1 I wish we could kick her off the ship. Someone as valuable as the shadowbroker should not be part of an active battle field anyway.
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Posté 16 avril 2012 - 10:28
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I suspect her bisexuality and presence of a fully nude scene may have something to do with her popularity. Also the fact that she is pushed on you by the writers.
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Posté 16 avril 2012 - 10:31
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Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...
I suspect her bisexuality and presence of a fully nude scene may have something to do with her popularity. Also the fact that she is pushed on you by the writers.
Bingo ^
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Posté 16 avril 2012 - 10:33
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Verly wrote...
I still don't see how saving shep's life makes her a 'crazy stalker'. While the rest of Shep's team grieved or sat on their butts whichever it was, Liara made sure shep's lifeless body did not reach the collectors who where going to give it to the reapers.. or did everyone miss that?
it was the events of saving shep's body that changed liara from the sweet shy girl to the full grown woman she was in ME2 and 3. I thought the game fully explains this.. shep could ask Liara why she was so hell bent on going after the shadow broker and she explains it fully.
The saving of his body was only so the Devs could keep her plot relevent. Jacob or Miranda would have been a more logical but if the Devs go with then Liara suddely has no place in the plot after ME1 and her role even in ME1 is rather weak since any Asari that studies the Protheians would work in her place.
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Posté 16 avril 2012 - 10:36
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Indeed. By trying to shoehorn Liara into plot-critical roles all the time, they actually do disservice to her character as she ends up with forced and unrealistic character development.Tom Lehrer wrote...
The saving of his body was only so the Devs could keep her plot relevent. Jacob or Miranda would have been a more logical
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Posté 16 avril 2012 - 10:41
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Please keep in mind I made this thread to discover the true reasons behind the affections of Liara as a love interest, not to keep encourage ranting about "Liara being a badly developed character". Please keep to the course as long as possible, people.
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Posté 16 avril 2012 - 10:56
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Flumburken wrote...
Please keep in mind I made this thread to discover the true reasons behind the affections of Liara as a love interest, not to keep encourage ranting about "Liara being a badly developed character". Please keep to the course as long as possible, people.
As I said before male power fantsay. Of the LIs Liara is the best fit.
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Posté 16 avril 2012 - 11:02
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Tom Lehrer wrote...
Flumburken wrote...
Please keep in mind I made this thread to discover the true reasons behind the affections of Liara as a love interest, not to keep encourage ranting about "Liara being a badly developed character". Please keep to the course as long as possible, people.
As I said before male power fantsay. Of the LIs Liara is the best fit.
Um...then why is FemShep/Liara so popular with the lady gamers?
I just went with the flow when Lair of the Shadow Broker made it abundantly clear that a story where Shepard had feelings for her would be a really good story.
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Posté 16 avril 2012 - 11:10
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recentio wrote...
Tom Lehrer wrote...
Flumburken wrote...
Please keep in mind I made this thread to discover the true reasons behind the affections of Liara as a love interest, not to keep encourage ranting about "Liara being a badly developed character". Please keep to the course as long as possible, people.
As I said before male power fantsay. Of the LIs Liara is the best fit.
Um...then why is FemShep/Liara so popular with the lady gamers?
I just went with the flow when Lair of the Shadow Broker made it abundantly clear that a story where Shepard had feelings for her would be a really good story.
Most femSheps that romance Laira are played by males for a different kind of male fantsay.
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Posté 16 avril 2012 - 11:15
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Tom Lehrer wrote...
recentio wrote...
Tom Lehrer wrote...
Flumburken wrote...
Please keep in mind I made this thread to discover the true reasons behind the affections of Liara as a love interest, not to keep encourage ranting about "Liara being a badly developed character". Please keep to the course as long as possible, people.
As I said before male power fantsay. Of the LIs Liara is the best fit.
Um...then why is FemShep/Liara so popular with the lady gamers?
I just went with the flow when Lair of the Shadow Broker made it abundantly clear that a story where Shepard had feelings for her would be a really good story.
Most femSheps that romance Laira are played by males for a different kind of male fantsay.
I think a visit to the big Liara thread might open your eyes about just how many female vs. male gamers play FemShep/Liara. It seems to me that you're making a lot of prejudicial assumptions without any data to back them up.
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Posté 16 avril 2012 - 11:18
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Played only ME3, and didn't have any previous knowledge of this game but as soon as i saw Liara, my pants grew an 1in bigger.
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Posté 16 avril 2012 - 11:23
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recentio wrote...
I think a visit to the big Liara thread might open your eyes about just how many female vs. male gamers play FemShep/Liara. It seems to me that you're making a lot of prejudicial assumptions without any data to back them up.
I have been to that thread and it is very male. The fanart might show FemShep but that means nothing.
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Posté 16 avril 2012 - 11:39
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She's one of the best developed characters in the series and the most loyal to Shep.
As far as ME2, it was stupid to begin with having the Normandy blow up, Shep die, and waking up in a Cerberus facility. Close to almost as bad as the ME3 ending.
As far as ME2, it was stupid to begin with having the Normandy blow up, Shep die, and waking up in a Cerberus facility. Close to almost as bad as the ME3 ending.
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Posté 17 avril 2012 - 12:08
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The only pro I can see Liara have in ME3 is her romance that's it. Liked her in ME1, with the shyness and all. ME2 and 3 didn't really do her character any justice. But for some reason she reminds me of Mr. Crocker from the fairly odd parents cartoon. Especailly in ME2 when she was obsessed with trying to find the shadow broker.
