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[mumwaldee369]

It's obvious that most of the fans have worked their way past the initial confusion and anger. We have more troll posts than real posts. More comments from the "bioware does no wrong" group than genuine. Few more weeks it'll be crickets.

Modifié par mumwaldee369, 17 avril 2012 - 01:18 .

[Dr. Megaverse]

Subguy614 wrote...

They let us vent incessantly on BSN (haven't seen many lock downs lately) and anger slowly turns to apathy

Welcome to America. Where the apathetic can still shop!

[sfam]

my Aim is True wrote...

We'll all get there eventually, just a different times. Me, I'll stay on the line. Reassess after EC is released

Best of luck to you - I really hope the wait ends up being worth it and you love the EC.

[christrek1982]

ah yes but will you buy the omaga DLC? do you plan on pre-ordering/buying the next Bioware title? if the answer is no then the damage is done many of us will get over it in time but how many of us will be returning customers?

[MattFini]

christrek1982 wrote...

ah yes but will you buy the omaga DLC? do you plan on pre-ordering/buying the next Bioware title? if the answer is no then the damage is done many of us will get over it in time but how many of us will be returning customers?

If the extended cut DLC redeems the garbage ending?  Absolutely.  I'm back.  

If it's the same junk, only expanded, absolutely not.

[Rjames112]

sfam wrote...

Yeah, the Mass Effect series was absolutely awesome, one of the best ever. I truly cared about the characters more in this game than any other. And yeah, the ending completely blows big donkey chunks, perhaps the worse ending I can remember in a game.  Its neither coherent or nor fits with the narrative established over three games. And yes I was one of those idiots who yet again went through and replayed ME1 and ME2 to get the perfect save.

But you know what?  Such is life.  I'm sure the Bioware team poured their souls into making ME3 within budget and time constraints. For whatever reason, they totally screwed the pooch on the ending.  And yeah, they totally overpromised and underdelivered - this isn't the first nor last time this will happen to me. 

This. 

It's very zen. But to be honest I'm looking forward to Bioware's next game because after the community backlash they will be hyper vigilant about things like this.

[sfam]

christrek1982 wrote...

ah yes but will you buy the omaga DLC? do you plan on pre-ordering/buying the next Bioware title? if the answer is no then the damage is done many of us will get over it in time but how many of us will be returning customers?

I'll definitely be waiting for significant user reviews to come in before buying another Bioware product. I'm definitely over believing their hype, and truthfully, feel pretty dumb now believing it in the first place.

What's the phrase, "When something sounds too good to be true..."

[mumwaldee369]

christrek1982 wrote...

ah yes but will you buy the omaga DLC? do you plan on pre-ordering/buying the next Bioware title? if the answer is no then the damage is done many of us will get over it in time but how many of us will be returning customers?

That's the crux isn't it.  A returning fan or a returning customer.  Or perhaps neither.

[mumwaldee369]

sfam wrote...

christrek1982 wrote...

ah yes but will you buy the omaga DLC? do you plan on pre-ordering/buying the next Bioware title? if the answer is no then the damage is done many of us will get over it in time but how many of us will be returning customers?

I'll definitely be waiting for significant user reviews to come in before buying another Bioware product. I'm definitely over believing their hype, and truthfully, feel pretty dumb now believing it in the first place.

What's the phrase, "When something sounds too good to be true..."

If it's too good to be true, buy two!  ?

[The Divine Avenger]

sistersafetypin wrote...

When I first finished the game last month and started coming to the boards regularly I was extremely hurt. I felt betrayed, lied to, and extremely angry that Bioware would slap such a subpar ending on such a spectacular series. I still considered myself a Bioware fan, I just figured they'd had temporary insanity and would make things right. Hence Retake.

Now? When I come to these boards I'm apathetic at best, mildly annoyed at the PR bs at worst. This fiasco will hurt Bioware more than they realize. When your most fanatical fans simply stop caring? You have a problem

So sad because it's so true, I to was a huge Bioware fan until I saw that bullsh** they called an ending. Now that they've shattered my very soul with this bull**** I'll never be a fan again, my faith in Bioware is forever gone. My loyalty to Bioware had faded & no matter how many free DLC's they release they can never mend my broken heart.
The Bioware I fell in love with has gone, I've excepted that but it doesn't stop the pain & it never will. Even if there so called "clarification" DLC fix's the ending the bitter taste will still be there for me as will the pain. I can never look at the name Bioware in the same way ever again after this & I won't be giving them the option of doing this to me again.

[vasametropolis]

MrHiGhToWeRr wrote...

Every time I think I've reached stage 7, I end up falling back into stage 3 or 4. I'm glad someone made it out of this vicious cycle.

Exact same.

[The Divine Avenger]

Rjames112 wrote...

sfam wrote...

Yeah, the Mass Effect series was absolutely awesome, one of the best ever. I truly cared about the characters more in this game than any other. And yeah, the ending completely blows big donkey chunks, perhaps the worse ending I can remember in a game.  Its neither coherent or nor fits with the narrative established over three games. And yes I was one of those idiots who yet again went through and replayed ME1 and ME2 to get the perfect save.

But you know what?  Such is life.  I'm sure the Bioware team poured their souls into making ME3 within budget and time constraints. For whatever reason, they totally screwed the pooch on the ending.  And yeah, they totally overpromised and underdelivered - this isn't the first nor last time this will happen to me. 

This. 

It's very zen. But to be honest I'm looking forward to Bioware's next game because after the community backlash they will be hyper vigilant about things like this.

DA2, SWTOR & now ME3

keep dreaming they didn't learn from the first 2 so what makes you think they'll learn now, I meen come on they disided after all the backlash that all the ending needed was "clarification" so don't get your hopes up.

[pharsti]

Well, i got over it quite some time ago, doesnt mean im not waiting for my epilogues to see what i should do with my MEs, they either go into the drawer, where i keep my "never play again" category and are kept out of sight, or will be allowed out into the rest of my collection that im proud of having XD

Truth be told, ive got too many good games to play (currently on my second playthrough for Pandoras Tower) to get stuck on the mess BW made.

[Kunari801]

MrHiGhToWeRr wrote...

Every time I think I've reached stage 7, I end up falling back into stage 3 or 4. I'm glad someone made it out of this vicious cycle.

^- That, but the The Unofficial Mass Effect 3 Epilogue Slides thead really helped me come to terms with the endings and closure with my crew that the official ending doesn't.  I hope the DLC is even better but if not I'll use that that as mine ending. 

[sfam]

The Divine Avenger wrote...

So sad because it's so true, I to was a huge Bioware fan until I saw that bullsh** they called an ending. Now that they've shattered my very soul with this bull**** I'll never be a fan again, my faith in Bioware is forever gone. My loyalty to Bioware had faded & no matter how many free DLC's they release they can never mend my broken heart.
The Bioware I fell in love with has gone, I've excepted that but it doesn't stop the pain & it never will. Even if there so called "clarification" DLC fix's the ending the bitter taste will still be there for me as will the pain. I can never look at the name Bioware in the same way ever again after this & I won't be giving them the option of doing this to me again.

Lets be honest. Its pretty amazing that a gaming company could ever spark these kinds of feelings.  The other day as I was looking for my Witcher disc, I came upon my original Baldur's Gate copy. And then the Throne of Bhaal disc.  And then Icewind Dale and Neverwinter Nights. Seriously, these guys have produced some amazing products. Its no secret why they had the loyalty they did.

This too shall pass.

Interestingly, in looking at the back of my Icewind Dale CD, in bold letters across the bottom is the phrase, "A Stand Alone Product."  Definitely produced in the time before DLCs....what a good time that was in many ways. 

[Mojenator12345]

Well, the rage dies down eventually. But forgive and forget? Not likely...

[The Divine Avenger]

sfam wrote...

Mesmurae wrote...

sfam wrote...

I don't think no lockdowns was the problem.  The problem was no real dialogue.  That to me was the real cincher.  But again, I agree, for me, anger has turned to apathy, which has finally allowed me to forgive them for it and move on. 

I'm POSITIVE they didn't want the vast majority of their most loyal fans to be completely distraught and upset over such a ****ty ending - this probably hurts them LOTS more than it hurts us.  I really feel for the folks working there, and truly wish them well.

I'm with you there, I wish all of the folks at BioWare the very best.

Except for Casey & Mac. Still mad at them.

Casey hasn't posted on twitter since March 17.  No reason to think he's not absolutely and utterly miserable, and thinking he let everyone he worked with down, not to mention his fans.  Seriously, there are criminals who's suffered far less than this guy probably has.  And all he did was completely blow the ending to his life's work up until this point. Whatever anger you feel toward him is probably small compared to his own. 

not only did he completely blow the ending but he also did the mort PR damage leading up to the release of ME3 with the whole bull**** like. "it's not even like the other games where you can say wether or not you got endings A, B or C"

[The Divine Avenger]

sfam wrote...

The Divine Avenger wrote...

So sad because it's so true, I to was a huge Bioware fan until I saw that bullsh** they called an ending. Now that they've shattered my very soul with this bull**** I'll never be a fan again, my faith in Bioware is forever gone. My loyalty to Bioware had faded & no matter how many free DLC's they release they can never mend my broken heart.
The Bioware I fell in love with has gone, I've excepted that but it doesn't stop the pain & it never will. Even if there so called "clarification" DLC fix's the ending the bitter taste will still be there for me as will the pain. I can never look at the name Bioware in the same way ever again after this & I won't be giving them the option of doing this to me again.

Lets be honest. Its pretty amazing that a gaming company could ever spark these kinds of feelings.  The other day as I was looking for my Witcher disc, I came upon my original Baldur's Gate copy. And then the Throne of Bhaal disc.  And then Icewind Dale and Neverwinter Nights. Seriously, these guys have produced some amazing products. Its no secret why they had the loyalty they did.

This too shall pass.

Interestingly, in looking at the back of my Icewind Dale CD, in bold letters across the bottom is the phrase, "A Stand Alone Product."  Definitely produced in the time before DLCs....what a good time that was in many ways. 

For me it will never pass, when you loose a loved one the pain you feel never go's away, you just learn to live with it. For me it will be this way, the pain of it all will always be there I'll just learn to live with it as time go's on.

[Faded-Myth]

I bet this is exactly what they hoped to achieve when they said "We want the ending to be unforgettable".

Great job there, BioWare.

[sfam]

Faded-Myth wrote...

I bet this is exactly what they hoped to achieve when they said "We want the ending to be unforgettable".

Great job there, BioWare.

It certainly is unforgettable.  In 10 years, people in the gaming industry will still be talking about it, as in, "Be careful never to create a ME3 ending disaster!"

Modifié par sfam, 17 avril 2012 - 01:58 .

[pLaY3R1T0]

this is what every company hopes happens, incidents to blow over, forgotten about, then get back on the saddle with their business.

im so over it that; i wont buy another ea game again, let alone a bw one. but what do i matter? im just one.

[zarnk567]

pLaY3R1T0 wrote...

this is what every company hopes happens, incidents to blow over, forgotten about, then get back on the saddle with their business.

im so over it that; i wont buy another ea game again, let alone a bw one. but what do i matter? im just one.

Im still gonna buy Dead Space games.... I love Visceral Games as a developer.... I just wont buy a game developed by Bioware until I see it for sale used, and have read the fan reviews.

[Shaedlance]

Loss of trust and faith in a company we expected so much from. So much because they mostly always delivered a product that made all others jealous.

Replayability, its what we all wanted. But you cannot UNSEE that ending. If they fix it, I pray they fix it, it would be nice to be able to replay without the funk of knowing what is bad only gets worse and eventually takes a huge dump at the end.

[crimzontearz]

I'm not

[Dridengx]

sfam wrote...

Yeah, the Mass Effect series was absolutely awesome, one of the best ever.

But you know what?  Such is life.  I'm sure the Bioware team poured their souls into making ME3 within budget and time constraints

.... I'm just about ready to move on.  I may give the game another chance whenever the DLC comes out - for that reason, I won't be selling ME3

I'm dropping the emotion and moving on. 

So Best of luck to all those who work at Bioware in your future endeavors.  I may not be there any more for your games (or who knows, perhaps fan reviews for Dragon Age 3 will prompt me to buy it!), but I do wish you all well.  

Good for you. It's nice to hear someone who acknowledges reality and their place. I'm sure you'll be back because DA3 is sounding very good if they put in half of what I'm hearing and seeing on it.