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#101
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Jackal7713 wrote...


How hard is it for you not to post in dudes thread? Do you really have to be a complete ******?


And how hard is it for you to not comment on everything I say? And I'm not being a ******. Maybe you should understand the term.

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HenchxNarf wrote...

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No.

I want everyone to cool it.  Both sides, no matter how anyone feels about this organization.

There isn't a "works both ways" here.  I will report and expect the removal of posts that are inflammatory in any way from any side, whether in agreeance of my own movement or not.


Dude. Your whole thread is inflammatory. Do you not get that?

Well, apparently you don't.

It is a works both ways situation here. You can't say something and demand it done, when you're doing the complete opposite.


Also. Inflammatory: I don't think it means what you think it does

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Evo_9 wrote...

Isichar wrote...

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This is ridiculous.

These members are not real bioware fans. Why would you want fans like this? 

Please ban all 1000 members!


And your not a real fan if your willing to let a companys reputation get ruined, and a great series go under because of 5 minutes. Its not a matter of "is it right or not?" anymore, its simple reality that alot of people will not accept the ending. You dont want to accept that then thats your choice but it wont change the fact bioware will hurt from this. If you think banning all who disagree with them then your just contibuting to hurting the company more regardless of your intentions.


They are giving you free DLC in the summer to address the issues!  

What more do you want? 


Oh im willing to give it a chance. But It could easily just hurt bioware more then it already has, and what would be the point of the DLC then? The argument i see most though against the DLC is the it keeps in the core of almost all the issues, the catalyst. So you could argue they are ignoring the biggest issues fans have.

But that said its not entirely fair to pass judgement until the DLC, but my trust in bioware has been hurt regardless.

Modifié par Isichar, 17 avril 2012 - 05:14 .


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Eh ok i'll fight with a nicer thought process.

Your wishes are minor and attacking a thread you don't need to attack. If it gets locked it's locked no one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to troll the forum.

You're not a bioware moderator so there is no need to forcibly voice your opinion upon others. He's not making anyone join and propaganda is not illegal it's what many governments and nations rely on and are based off. A fan stating his beliefs on a company that's suppose to listen is not a bad thing it's merely strategy if you don't like his opinion don't bother coming into the thread and feeding the fires.

As for evo. Advertisement is defined as
A notice or announcement in a public medium promoting a product, service, or event or publicizing a job vacancy.

It is neither a product, service, or event he is merely stating an ideal he would like others to consider. That doesn't fit your description and doesn't deserve your trolling. It's a forum people rant. It happens all the time. All you're doing is villainizing yourself and making the motion look better in comparison especially because he's trying to keep peace in his own thread.

I repeat get over yourself = )

Modifié par ShepardTheHopeful, 17 avril 2012 - 05:14 .


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HenchxNarf wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...


How hard is it for you not to post in dudes thread? Do you really have to be a complete ******?


And how hard is it for you to not comment on everything I say? And I'm not being a ******. Maybe you should understand the term.


Grats you just made my point for me:O

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Are you seriously being this petty to mock the OP when he is in a sence defending you and your right to have an opinion without being called names?

You guys really do get a kick out of trolling


I forgot that you're the one who thinks this whole thing is okay.

He's not defending us. I don't want to be associated with him in any way. Sorry.

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Isichar wrote...

Evo_9 wrote...

Isichar wrote...

Evo_9 wrote...

This is ridiculous.

These members are not real bioware fans. Why would you want fans like this? 

Please ban all 1000 members!


And your not a real fan if your willing to let a companys reputation get ruined, and a great series go under because of 5 minutes. Its not a matter of "is it right or not?" anymore, its simple reality that alot of people will not accept the ending. You dont want to accept that then thats your choice but it wont change the fact bioware will hurt from this. If you think banning all who disagree with them then your just contibuting to hurting the company more regardless of your intentions.


They are giving you free DLC in the summer to address the issues!  

What more do you want? 


Oh im willing to give it a chance. But It could easily just hurt bioware more then it already has, and what would be the point of the DLC then? The argument i see most though against the DLC is the it keeps in the core of almost all the issues, the catalyst. So you could argue they are ignoring the biggest issues fans have.

But that said its not entirely fair to pass judgement until the DLC, but my trust in bioware has been hurt regardless.


Noone knows whats in the DLC. Noone can comment. Noone knows if the core of all issues will remain.

Be patient...THEN RAGE.

Hold the wallet sods are irrational and typical of everything that is wrong with humanity.

Modifié par Evo_9, 17 avril 2012 - 05:15 .


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Evo_9 wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

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You don't want to buy future games? Don't buy them and form a club of boycotters somewhere else. These forums aren't here for you to announce boycotts or to create campaigns about them just because people are upset and have some sort of vendetta over ME3's endings.


^^ THIS


Did I miss something, do you own this site? No? Then stop telling other people what to do on this site. Leave it to the mods.


Theyve tried 2 times to stop these threads, when will you get the hint???  maybe its time you guys went elsewhere.

As far as I am aware, they asked to us not make our movement into an official boycott. We have done so. By creating this thread, we are going along with the Mods wishes, not opposing them.

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HenchxNarf wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...


How hard is it for you not to post in dudes thread? Do you really have to be a complete ******?


And how hard is it for you to not comment on everything I say? And I'm not being a ******. Maybe you should understand the term.


personally I find it extremely difficult I'm a smart*** by nature and thus it is in my nature to attack the weakest links. You're raging worse than a CoD kid on xbox live right now thus commenting to your words is very difficult to resist. One of us will eventually leave either i'll get bored or you'll get frustrated or we'll both get locked out = ) 

either way this is entertaining keep trying to attack the OP your hate sustains me. 

Modifié par ShepardTheHopeful, 17 avril 2012 - 05:17 .


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warrior256 wrote...

I'm not telling anyone to boycott Bioware. Never once have I said on these forums that YOU shouldn't buy Bioware games. The fact that I feel that way is my opinion and mine alone. HTW may have started as a boycott group, but we have evolved into a group that people with a similar opinion can join. Sorry if I have come across as aggressive. I tend to get that way in these sort of situations.  


So tell me, as a member of both groups in your sig. What exactly is the difference? From what I'm aware of

Retake wanted a better ending, fixed plotholes, and choices that mattered.

Hold The Line wants to well... pimp their website and buy billboards and failed

Hold The Wallet wants to boycott EA and Bioware?

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All trolling, name calling, and other such behavior is unacceptable in my thread.

Many posts have been reported, and will vanish accordingly.





We can agree to disagree. But do NOT fight one another in my thread. EVER.


I'm calling in the officership to help diffuse this nastiness. I will not have weeks of work wrecked by trolls and counter-trolls alike.

#112
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HTW members, you guys have to stop responding to HenchxNarf, Evo_9, and bahamutomega. They are only posting to get a rise out of you and to attempt to give the thread a reason to be locked. If you stop responding to them, then about 99% of this hate gets removed and the thread has a much, much lower chance of being locked.

Edit: Also don't respond to drigend, because while he is lovable, he is also attempting to get a rise out of you.

Modifié par ZiegenkonigIII, 17 avril 2012 - 05:19 .


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I think I understand why they keep locking this. These threads seem to devolve into insulting each other at a much quicker pace than others.

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warrior256 wrote...

I'm not telling anyone to boycott Bioware. Never once have I said on these forums that YOU shouldn't buy Bioware games.  




Ok so why should everyone hold their wallet? what do you mean when you say this? do you understand what boycott means? 

Modifié par Evo_9, 17 avril 2012 - 05:20 .


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Evo_9 wrote...

Isichar wrote...

Evo_9 wrote...

Isichar wrote...

Evo_9 wrote...

This is ridiculous.

These members are not real bioware fans. Why would you want fans like this? 

Please ban all 1000 members!


And your not a real fan if your willing to let a companys reputation get ruined, and a great series go under because of 5 minutes. Its not a matter of "is it right or not?" anymore, its simple reality that alot of people will not accept the ending. You dont want to accept that then thats your choice but it wont change the fact bioware will hurt from this. If you think banning all who disagree with them then your just contibuting to hurting the company more regardless of your intentions.


They are giving you free DLC in the summer to address the issues!  

What more do you want? 


Oh im willing to give it a chance. But It could easily just hurt bioware more then it already has, and what would be the point of the DLC then? The argument i see most though against the DLC is the it keeps in the core of almost all the issues, the catalyst. So you could argue they are ignoring the biggest issues fans have.

But that said its not entirely fair to pass judgement until the DLC, but my trust in bioware has been hurt regardless.


Noone knows whats in the DLC. Noone can comment. Noone knows if the core of all issues will remain.

Be patient...THEN RAGE.

Hold the wallet sods are irrational and typical of everything that is wrong with humanity.


Everything wrong with humanity? lol i actually kind of agreed with you until that part. But again i will give the DLC a chance but its not looking promising from what we do know. If you think people boycotting companys that they see as wronging them is the worse thing that could happen in humanity then i envy you.

#116
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ZiegenkonigIII wrote...

HTW members, you guys have to stop responding to HenchxNarf, Evo_9, and bahamutomega. They are only posting to get a rise out of you and to attempt to give the thread a reason to be locked. If you stop responding to them, then about 99% of this hate gets removed and the thread has a much, much lower chance of being locked.

Edit: Also don't respond to drigend, because while he is lovable, he is also attempting to get a rise out of you.


Yeah, I kind of expected this from you.

And this thread needs to be locked, sorry.

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They've actually lost one BioWare sale, two if you count DA3, and three more games by EA owned studios post ME3. This is hurting them, and not just BioWare, and I can't see the "artistic integrity" holding much water in the face of possibly going the way of Origin.

Maybe EA will come out with some form of malware down the road named BioWare?

As I said in a previous (now locked) thread, I do hope that they fix this, but between the official statements and the ad campaign trying to spin outrage to their benefit I'm not holding out much hope for it to be so.

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Evo_9 wrote...

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I'm not telling anyone to boycott Bioware. Never once have I said on these forums that YOU shouldn't buy Bioware games.  




Ok so why should everyone hold their wallet? what do you mean when you say this? do you understand what boycott means? 

I never said that everyone should hold the wallet. If you are referring to my banner, then I am using that as a way to say that I ALONE am holding the wallet. To be quite honest, I don't care if you decide to join me or oppose me.

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Modifié par Waldschatten, 17 avril 2012 - 05:30 .


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HenchxNarf wrote...

ZiegenkonigIII wrote...

HTW members, you guys have to stop responding to HenchxNarf, Evo_9, and bahamutomega. They are only posting to get a rise out of you and to attempt to give the thread a reason to be locked. If you stop responding to them, then about 99% of this hate gets removed and the thread has a much, much lower chance of being locked.

Edit: Also don't respond to drigend, because while he is lovable, he is also attempting to get a rise out of you.


Yeah, I kind of expected this from you.

And this thread needs to be locked, sorry.


I respond to you only to make myself clear: I know you are not a troll Hench, however, you are berrating people for their opinions and are attempting to get a thread locked by turning it into a hate-fest.  What's more, is that the OP has reformed his original statement in accordance to the mods standards.  

Once you start doing things like that, you can't expect anyone to take you as anything but a troll.

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brickheart wrote...

I think I understand why they keep locking this. These threads seem to devolve into insulting each other at a much quicker pace than others.


And I, the thread starter, am against the insulting.  All of it.

The old thread had some of this, but it was fixed promptly.

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ZiegenkonigIII wrote...

HTW members, you guys have to stop responding to HenchxNarf, Evo_9, and bahamutomega. They are only posting to get a rise out of you and to attempt to give the thread a reason to be locked. If you stop responding to them, then about 99% of this hate gets removed and the thread has a much, much lower chance of being locked.

Edit: Also don't respond to drigend, because while he is lovable, he is also attempting to get a rise out of you.

ooooh, i've been called a troll.

hahahahahahahaha!!!

btw...  i'm not hating...  hate would involve anger, threats or other such nonsense.

i'm calling you idiots because you think it's unfair your thread is getting locked by BioWare.
 
BioWare is  allowed to shut down a thread that conflicts with their interests.  this thread is a direct conflict of their interests.  allowing it to remain up indirectly supports and encourages a boycott.

btw, listing me by name just encourages me further.

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#123
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warrior256 wrote...

I never said that everyone should hold the wallet. If you are referring to my banner, then I am using that as a way to say that I ALONE am holding the wallet. To be quite honest, I don't care if you decide to join me or oppose me.


I've never seen anyone encourage others to avoid BioWare, only stating their reasons for doing so. Everyone has even been nice to the trolls that come on to tell us what they just bought.

That said, I believe the movement needs its own forums for the inevitable lockdowns here. While nothing is being done wrong, these threads are not in the company's best interest and will continue to be locked. I have found phpBB and Simple Machines are good free options to place in your own website that would allow the discussion to continue uninterrupted.

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Mandalorian9 wrote...

Oilking72 wrote...

Mandalorian9 wrote...

Oilking72 wrote...

The stupid just isn't going to stop around here, is it?


Trolls are always hungry...:bandit:


Oh, you're so smart and effing witty!  The good old stand by, eh?  So I'm a troll because I'm a user of this board that's pretty sick and tired of the same stupid bull**** being regurgitated in a hundred threads over and over and over?

Not trolling, just pointing out a fact.


I was agreeing with you, but I guess I misinterpreted your stance on this thread. Regardless, the trolls are everywhere, don't feed'em. 

Holy **** did we have a miscommunication.  Apologies .  Nothing to see here.

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You know it really would make sense for bioware to make a n "off topic" thread so that they could contain all of this outrage there.

now i understand the idea behind hold the wallet and i fully hope to participate in it.

My only wish is that they could see all of these issues that they are causing with so many of their fans and admit they made a mistake and will fix it/ do better next time

personally as it stands i would love to see an end to all this negitivity, it is leading me to a sense of apaithy that i do not care for. i love/d bioware games and baulders gate was one of may favorate games of all time. i just hope that they can win back my support by publishing something worth the time and effort and wonderful writing talent that has been shown by bioware in the past.

anxiously waiting DLC
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