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#176
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hawkens982 wrote...

*snip*

 I mean....why aren't they complaining about all the husks trying to jump on you in MP/SP?


Heh, You can tell them no, be it with bullet or foot. I do find it funny though, that at the end of the game shep goes on thinkin about the asari that mindfreaked him instead of Miranda, Jack, or Tali. QA ftw 

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She didn't force her self at all from what I have seen.

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I think that's the biggest issue with ME, the fact all romance interests throw themselves on to you, or more to the point, go paragon and it's next to impossible to not have it shoved in your face.

I don't give a jot about the whole LI thing and regardless of whether it's alien, heterosexual or gay relationships, they creep up on you unexpectedly if you opt to go with the paragon choices.

Like other games out there, the whole romance thing should be at the discretion of the player (given as an entirely different conversation branch) rather than it shoved in our faces. I can see why some people are upset about the whole gay thing. In an ideal world no one would give a damn, but there are people who dislike it and as such, it should be made plainly obvious that paragon conversations lead to guys or females hitting on you.

Modifié par BlacJAC74, 18 avril 2012 - 10:51 .


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If you ask me, Wilson, Miranda, and TIM were more instrumental than her in shep being alive. TIM for making it even possible, and Miranda and Wilson for spending 2 years of their lives bringing you back to life. Liara, with the help of Feron, retrieved the body. You cannot acknowledge her as the sole reason shep is alive like many of you do. In fact she is the least responsible.

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BlacJAC74 wrote...
they creep up on you unexpectedly if you opt to go with the paragon choices.


thats true. i had to be careful how i talk to my crew otherwise my shep ends up getting all flirty with them and all i want is just to get them to know better but not that much better, exept the one im interested in. :P

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Liara really came on to me at the beginning of ME3. In her downloaded mission in ME2 she asked if I was going for making a home world for Miss vas Normandy. Thought she understood already this boy was going 100% Quarain this time around

I do wish they played up a few more scenes, to show more ongoing throughout the saga. I wish sometimes it was more about me having to press her/them for some milkyway-lov'n. If they accounted for the level of commitment you had made, and changed the scenes to fit that more, that would have been very cool. For instance, Jarvik asked me why and what I was in it for (again about Tali, but same idea for anyone)...If I gave the soldier response, that should have cooled my love interest a bit (assuming that word would have leaked out)....If I chose them over it being just about the mission, that should have sprung a much more intense love scene later maybe. That kind of shading in this and other places would have been welcomed... But yeah I get that a bit much to expect now with the technical limitations.

Liara is my LI on the next play through..... Well strangely Jack might too. I hate tattoos, and I hated her in ME2....But She was very much improved by ME3 to make me curious.

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ENorman94 wrote...

If you ask me, Wilson, Miranda, and TIM were more instrumental than her in shep being alive. TIM for making it even possible, and Miranda and Wilson for spending 2 years of their lives bringing you back to life. Liara, with the help of Feron, retrieved the body. You cannot acknowledge her as the sole reason shep is alive like many of you do. In fact she is the least responsible.


This. When I look at these boards and all of the "Liara is the sole reason your Shepard is even alive!" comments flying about at break-neck speed, it makes me wonder if I got a different version of the comic. Lira didn't know a first thing about Shepard's body, the Collectors and the Shadow Broker when she set out. Cerberus assault team could have replaced Liara and there wouldn't have been any difference.

Modifié par J.C. Blade, 18 avril 2012 - 11:46 .


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ENorman94 wrote...

If you ask me, Wilson, Miranda, and TIM were more instrumental than her in shep being alive. TIM for making it even possible, and Miranda and Wilson for spending 2 years of their lives bringing you back to life. Liara, with the help of Feron, retrieved the body. You cannot acknowledge her as the sole reason shep is alive like many of you do. In fact she is the least responsible.



It isn't inaccurate to state that Shepard wouldn't be alive without Liara. Though I do agree that Miranda and the scientists who worked on the Lazarus Project (most of whom are unnamed) are more responsible for him being back from the dead. Nevertheless, Liara was the only ME1 squadmate involved in the recovery of Shepard's body.

Liara is basically the female Garrus. She has Shepard's back no matter what, and if unromanced, is a loyal friend.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 18 avril 2012 - 05:55 .


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StarAce905-2 wrote...

I don't really understand the complaints about this. Isn't it realistic to have a character that'll have feelings for Shepard regardless of whether he/she reciprocates?


^THIS ;)

Yeah, I think it's realistic to have a character like Shepard even if he doesn't reciprocate. That happens in real life, sucks if you're the one who'll get the rejection. 

She does have more content to imply that she does have feelings! However, in the end, it's still your choice who you want to end up with. :o 

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RAPE.

Jk. I just think Liara adores Shepard. 

Modifié par vware, 18 avril 2012 - 05:59 .


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J.C. Blade wrote...

ENorman94 wrote...

If you ask me, Wilson, Miranda, and TIM were more instrumental than her in shep being alive. TIM for making it even possible, and Miranda and Wilson for spending 2 years of their lives bringing you back to life. Liara, with the help of Feron, retrieved the body. You cannot acknowledge her as the sole reason shep is alive like many of you do. In fact she is the least responsible.


This. When I look at these boards and all of the "Liara is the sole reason your Shepard is even alive!" comments flying about at break-neck speed, it makes me wonder if I got a different version of the comic. Lira didn't know a first thing about Shepard's body, the Collectors and the Shadow Broker when she set out. Cerberus assault team could have replaced Liara and there wouldn't have been any difference.

Just flat-out false. If Liara hadn't been trying to get Shepard, the Broker would have had the body safely out in the first book. Same result if she hadn't pursued further. Of course Liara couldn't have done it alone – and didn't – but the fundamental truth is that without her, Shepard would be collector paste or worse.

It's really quite sad that you have to go to these lengths to try to dislike a character :P

Modifié par lillitheris, 18 avril 2012 - 07:37 .


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lillitheris wrote...

Just flat-out false. If Liara hadn't been trying to get Shepard, the Broker would have had the body safely out in the first book. Same result if she hadn't pursued further. Of course Liara couldn't have done it alone – and didn't – but the fundamental truth is that without her, Shepard would be collector paste or worse.

It's really quite sad that you have to go to these lengths to try to dislike a character :P


Are you really trying to sell that an organization as resourceful as Cerberus would be unable to find a replacement for Liara? That they would have been entirely unable to retrieve Shepard's body without her? Please. Unless a dev states otherwise, if Liara hadn't been present, Cerberus would have used someone else (preferably not an old squadmate), easy peasy.

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Neria Rose wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

Just flat-out false. If Liara hadn't been trying to get Shepard, the Broker would have had the body safely out in the first book. Same result if she hadn't pursued further. Of course Liara couldn't have done it alone – and didn't – but the fundamental truth is that without her, Shepard would be collector paste or worse.

It's really quite sad that you have to go to these lengths to try to dislike a character :P


Are you really trying to sell that an organization as resourceful as Cerberus would be unable to find a replacement for Liara? That they would have been entirely unable to retrieve Shepard's body without her? Please. Unless a dev states otherwise, if Liara hadn't been present, Cerberus would have used someone else (preferably not an old squadmate), easy peasy.

In fact, wasnt Cerberus already looking for Shepard.

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Liara didn't force anything. Bioware did. Seriously, in general there's too much of her in the whole game and too few of others. And here's someone who likes Liara and loved her scene on the information for the next cycle and her goodbye. Brilliant.

But there's also a lot of stuff on Citadel and some others on Normandy. I didn't even see her romance content yet, I've yet to play my Shep who romances her. It's like she's the canon romance for both male and female Shepard.

They could devote some of those for the other romances, because Miranda is LAME AS HELL (there are two beautiful sad scenes where she expresses her feelings but only if you fail her, WTF) and I've seen Jack and Thane on youtube and they both suck.

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Ha!

Thane doesn't even count as a romance anymore!

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um, it is no big deal to me.

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It's a written story. Written. By people. With fictional characters. They make choices on what characters are more prominent. Are people seriously complaining about this?

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It's neat how over the course of the last eight pages the conversation has gone from "why does Liara force herself on Shepard as a romantic interest" to "why does Liara force herself on the entire galaxy as the most important person in it, being written as behind almost every major breakthrough related to counterintelligence, the Protheans, the Reapers and Shepard's successes." Mainly because that's an allegory of how BW developed Liara from the start of the series to now....

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Sparatus wrote...

Ha!

Thane doesn't even count as a romance anymore!


So doesn't Jacob. And you know the best part? FemShep doesn't even care!

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she rapes him

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BatmanPWNS wrote...

So doesn't Jacob. And you know the best part? FemShep doesn't even care!


This actually pissed me off more than the endings. It was so bad and lazy.

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ENorman94 wrote...

Neria Rose wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

Just flat-out false. If Liara hadn't been trying to get Shepard, the Broker would have had the body safely out in the first book. Same result if she hadn't pursued further. Of course Liara couldn't have done it alone – and didn't – but the fundamental truth is that without her, Shepard would be collector paste or worse.

It's really quite sad that you have to go to these lengths to try to dislike a character :P


Are you really trying to sell that an organization as resourceful as Cerberus would be unable to find a replacement for Liara? That they would have been entirely unable to retrieve Shepard's body without her? Please. Unless a dev states otherwise, if Liara hadn't been present, Cerberus would have used someone else (preferably not an old squadmate), easy peasy.

In fact, wasnt Cerberus already looking for Shepard.


Yes, and they had failed. They needed Liara to get her. Anyway, y'all clearly way off the deep end on this so have fun with your nemesis…

:huh:

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admcmei wrote...

It's a written story. Written. By people. With fictional characters. They make choices on what characters are more prominent. Are people seriously complaining about this?

You're right; we shouldn't complain about this. And we also shouldn't complain about the awful journal system, or the forced linearity of the plot, or the horrible ending, or anything else we don't like. We should just appreciate all those things and eagerly await the next DLC so we can add to Shepard's legend.

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Wait when does Liara force herself on Shepard, anyway.

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IsaacShep wrote...
The only way to avoid romancing her in ME1 is to either...



How can a valid sentence that starts off like this exist regarding a game in which there is no way to avoid a romance with Liara?

Modifié par MsKlaussen, 18 avril 2012 - 10:33 .