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[mauro2222]

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

Oh, and let's not forget that end-game flashback now.

you had to remind me of that...

Modifié par mauro2222, 17 avril 2012 - 05:08 .

[StarGateGod]

SergeantSnookie wrote...

StarGateGod wrote...

Real question
Why do people wear underwear?

Why do people wear pants?

to not be naked of course but since you wear pants under wear dont really serve that purpose

[Unit-Alpha]

mauro2222 wrote...

...she has her own DLC.

She's the Shadow Broker, the expert on Protheans, the biotic master. Shepard's best friend for no reason. She is NAKED! Naked for god's sake, that's enough to make her the favourite. Her romance scene last 10x times more than anyone else. Don't forget the plot armor. Ah yes, and the "My homeworld is in ruins, look at the banshees, the Reapers make me feel bad, I'm gonna cry, feel bad with me Shepard"... oh yeah because Palaven and Earth are ok, and it's not like there is a human husk on every corner...

Hahahahaha....

The fervor you exerted was priceless. Thank you for the laugh.

[Zix13]

mauro2222 wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

The whole commando joke flew over my head.

Anyways a serious answer for a change. Bioware play favorites with Liara, simple as that. There was a thread last week that explains "Writer's Pets" and Liara being one of them. If Bioware ever canonized Mass Effect, including who the canon LI was, you can be damn skippy it'd be her. But I do happen to like Liara, but I did find the amount of attention she received in ME3 as oppose to the rest to be quite annoying.

+1 You have to be blind to not see this.

One could argue that Tali and Garrus are the real writer's pets. Squadmates in every game.

...she has her own DLC.

She's the Shadow Broker, the expert on Protheans, the biotic master. Shepard's best friend for no reason. She is NAKED! Naked for god's sake, that's enough to make her the favourite. Her romance scene last 10x times more than anyone else. 

Probably because she's the only female LI that isn't insecure or Ashley. 

[Unit-Alpha]

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

One could argue that Tali and Garrus are the real writer's pets. Squadmates in every game.

Most writer's pet accusations with Liara have little to do with squadmate status. They involve her lack of death, frequent plot relevance, forced friendship, and inability to be ignored.

Oh, and let's not forget that end-game flashback now.

Note the "one could argue."

I'm actually not arguing that.

[mauro2222]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

...she has her own DLC.

She's the Shadow Broker, the expert on Protheans, the biotic master. Shepard's best friend for no reason. She is NAKED! Naked for god's sake, that's enough to make her the favourite. Her romance scene last 10x times more than anyone else. Don't forget the plot armor. Ah yes, and the "My homeworld is in ruins, look at the banshees, the Reapers make me feel bad, I'm gonna cry, feel bad with me Shepard"... oh yeah because Palaven and Earth are ok, and it's not like there is a human husk on every corner...

Hahahahaha....

The fervor you exerted was priceless. Thank you for the laugh.

Haha, I know. I don't hate Liara, I like her, her friendship and romance are touching, but you can't deny the favouritism.

[mauro2222]

Zix13 wrote...

Probably because she's the only female LI that isn't insecure or Ashley. 

SergeantSnookie wrote...

That brings to mind four questions:

1. She wasn't a squadmate in 2, so she obviously couldn't be killed, and she can die in 3. 
2. She's a Prothean expert and Protheans are important.
3. She's your expert on the Crucible.
4. What cold bastard would hate and ignore the person who's responsible for you being alive? 

That's the problem, why so perfect?

[Unit-Alpha]

mauro2222 wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

...she has her own DLC.

She's the Shadow Broker, the expert on Protheans, the biotic master. Shepard's best friend for no reason. She is NAKED! Naked for god's sake, that's enough to make her the favourite. Her romance scene last 10x times more than anyone else. Don't forget the plot armor. Ah yes, and the "My homeworld is in ruins, look at the banshees, the Reapers make me feel bad, I'm gonna cry, feel bad with me Shepard"... oh yeah because Palaven and Earth are ok, and it's not like there is a human husk on every corner...

Hahahahaha....

The fervor you exerted was priceless. Thank you for the laugh.

Haha, I know. I don't hate Liara, I like her, her friendship and romance are touching, but you can't deny the favouritism.

Oh, I don't. Before LotSB, sure; but afterward it was pretty obvious.

[MyChemicalBromance]

Liara was given the worst treatment in ME2 pre-DLC. She was completely unresponsive and the comic implied she may have cheated on Shepard.

ME3 made up for that. Maybe it went too far, but I guess I got lucky.

Modifié par MyChemicalBromance, 17 avril 2012 - 05:14 .

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

SergeantSnookie wrote...

1. She wasn't a squadmate in 2, so she obviously couldn't be killed, and she can die in 3. 

She can only die in the last 20 minutes, and only in the ending where everyone dies. And every other ME1 character except Garrus can die earlier on in 3.

2. She's a Prothean expert and Protheans are important.
3. She's your expert on the Crucible.

Like I said, they keep giving her forced plot relevance.

4. What cold bastard would hate and ignore the person who's responsible for you being alive?

Oh, I don't know. What cold bastard would shoot Mordin, kill Wrex, murder the VS, betray Samara, and drive Tali to suicide? Because none of those are options, right?

Modifié par Mr. Big Pimpin, 17 avril 2012 - 05:13 .

[Unit-Alpha]

mauro2222 wrote...

Zix13 wrote...

Probably because she's the only female LI that isn't insecure or Ashley. 

SergeantSnookie wrote...

That brings to mind four questions:

1. She wasn't a squadmate in 2, so she obviously couldn't be killed, and she can die in 3. 
2. She's a Prothean expert and Protheans are important.
3. She's your expert on the Crucible.
4. What cold bastard would hate and ignore the person who's responsible for you being alive? 

That's the problem, why so perfect?

Remember ME2 pre-DLC Liara? Yeah, she was/is pretty imperfect, to be honest.

[Zix13]

mauro2222 wrote...

Zix13 wrote...

Probably because she's the only female LI that isn't insecure or Ashley. 

SergeantSnookie wrote...

That brings to mind four questions:

1. She wasn't a squadmate in 2, so she obviously couldn't be killed, and she can die in 3. 
2. She's a Prothean expert and Protheans are important.
3. She's your expert on the Crucible.
4. What cold bastard would hate and ignore the person who's responsible for you being alive? 

That's the problem, why so perfect?

I wouldn't say acting more mature than a 15 year old makes her perfect. 

[brickheart]

I don't understand why Bioware is nervous about ****** being in game. I can understand the lack of full nudity, but being a mature game-- I don't see why squad mates have to have PG-13 scenes.

Isn't this game intended for adults?

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Note the "one could argue."

I'm actually not arguing that.

Well played.

[Unit-Alpha]

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

SergeantSnookie wrote...

1. She wasn't a squadmate in 2, so she obviously couldn't be killed, and she can die in 3. 

She can only die in the last 20 minutes, and only in the ending where everyone dies. And every other ME1 character except Garrus can die earlier on in 3.

2. She's a Prothean expert and Protheans are important.
3. She's your expert on the Crucible.

Like I said, they keep giving her forced plot relevance.

4. What cold bastard would hate and ignore the person who's responsible for you being alive?

Oh, I don't know. What cold bastard would shoot Mordin, kill Wrex, murder the VS, betray Samara, and drive Tali to suicide? Because none of those are options, right?

There's a fine line between forced plot relevent and tying a character to a plotline. Bioware treads this line all the time (see Tali, Garrus, Mordin, and Wrex). Sometimes they mess up (like with Tali; giving her an admiralty position was a poor decision. It didn't fit her character and felt hackneyed.) I know what you believe about Liara, so I'm not going to argue there.

Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 17 avril 2012 - 05:17 .

[dreman9999]

Why would an Asari where a bra?

[MyChemicalBromance]

dreman9999 wrote...

Why would an Asari where a bra?

Why would an Asari what? And why do you need a bra?

[Unit-Alpha]

dreman9999 wrote...

Why would an Asari where a bra?

....why wouldn't they?

[Menalaos1971]

brickheart wrote...

I don't understand why Bioware is nervous about ****** being in game. I can understand the lack of full nudity, but being a mature game-- I don't see why squad mates have to have PG-13 scenes.

Isn't this game intended for adults?

PG-13?  bra and panties is PG.  And, no don't understand it either.  Had they used the same camera techniques with any other LI it would have been just as PG-13 as Liara's ME1 and ME3 scenes, and no one would have complained.

[howieloader]

brickheart wrote...

I don't understand why Bioware is nervous about ****** being in game. I can understand the lack of full nudity, but being a mature game-- I don't see why squad mates have to have PG-13 scenes.

Isn't this game intended for adults?

Didn't you learn anything from the halftime incident... Boobs are da debil...

[Menalaos1971]

howieloader wrote...

brickheart wrote...

I don't understand why Bioware is nervous about ****** being in game. I can understand the lack of full nudity, but being a mature game-- I don't see why squad mates have to have PG-13 scenes.

Isn't this game intended for adults?

Didn't you learn anything from the halftime incident... Boobs are da debil...

It's rated M.  Anyone that's playing should be an adult.  The package even mentions that one of the things that gave it that rating is partial nudity.  So, it's not like its a surprise on the most watched TV event in the US.  There shouldn't be anything wrong with showing something that would be relevant in a love scene.

And anyone that brings up those morons on FoxNews (the quoted post didn't, but someone else in another post did) are forgetting that they got trashed online almost as bad as the Ending to ME3 is getting trashed right now.  Has Fox even covered a video game "controversy" since then?

Modifié par Menalaos1971, 17 avril 2012 - 05:27 .

[Gterror2]

This thread makes me shudder, talking about Liara's underwear, genitals and what not...wth

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

The sad thing is I actually quite like Liara. I don't even want to know how I'd react if the writer's pet was someone whom I didn't like (imagines Jacob getting Liara's role and shudders).

Modifié par Mr. Big Pimpin, 17 avril 2012 - 05:28 .