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[ShdwPlayer]

Lol @ the OP's complaints.

Anyways so yeah I do it cuz I have my human males and females specced differently.

[2leggywillow]

nuculerman wrote...
You do understand the concept of a role playing game, right?  Some people, myself included, actually played ME for the RPG aspects, and find it uncomfortable role playing as a female.  Let's stop criticizing each others play styles and enjoy the game in our own ways. 

Uhhh... what?

That's one way of playing a role-playing game.  Personally I think of it in terms of "placing yourself in the role of someone else" rather than "putting myself in a role".  Perhaps I'm wrong, but you seem to be implying that a male playing as a female character isn't actually role-playing?  And that's simply wrong.

Personally I'm a female who always plays as the female characters in ME3's MP (when applicable), but that's only because you're forced to play a male in so many other games that it's a nice change.

[CroGamer002]

I have different specs on male and female human character.

[LegacyOfTheAsh]

ZombieGambit wrote...

You have it backwards. It's weird in SP because you're supposed to "be" Shepard. In MP I play as females all the time because I spec the males and females completely differently. Take my Infiltrator class for example:

Male: Sniper with max weapon damage
Female: Melee with max melee damage

It's backwards to you. It isn't backwards to everyone. All subjective. For instance; My main Shep is modeled and named after me. I have 9 other Shepards. 7 of them are female. If I make more Shepards, I'm not going to keep modeling them after myself. I'd never experience other playstyles and plots.

[Bolo Xia]

so you are a guy claiming to be strait that would rather stare at a dude from behind the whole time you play....?:huh:interesting....
i use a different build on each gender, would be nice if the other races had a 2nd gender so i could play different builds without promoting or reseting.
one build can get old even it it rocks.
also im a dude that plays female characters all the time, because i would rather stare at them than a dude when i game.

[2leggywillow]

LegacyOfTheAsh wrote...

ZombieGambit wrote...

You have it backwards. It's weird in SP because you're supposed to "be" Shepard. In MP I play as females all the time because I spec the males and females completely differently. Take my Infiltrator class for example:

Male: Sniper with max weapon damage
Female: Melee with max melee damage

It's backwards to you. It isn't backwards to everyone. All subjective. For instance; My main Shep is modeled and named after me. I have 9 other Shepards. 7 of them are female. If I make more Shepards, I'm not going to keep modeling them after myself. I'd never experience other playstyles and plots.

The bolded part is just so strange to me.  I know that self-insertion is a very common way to play RPGs, but I just don't get the appeal. I'm not Shepard.  Shepard is Shepard.  Shepard is a character all her own that I influence in certain directions.  If anything the multi-player seems more open to self-inserts since the human characters are faceless and have no preset personalities to speak of.  It's far easier to project your own personality onto a blank slate.  Not that I do that either.  ::shrug::  To each their own.

[BaeBunni]

I do 2 human builds just suck it up?

[Sdrol117]

2leggywillow wrote...

LegacyOfTheAsh wrote...

ZombieGambit wrote...

You have it backwards. It's weird in SP because you're supposed to "be" Shepard. In MP I play as females all the time because I spec the males and females completely differently. Take my Infiltrator class for example:

Male: Sniper with max weapon damage
Female: Melee with max melee damage

It's backwards to you. It isn't backwards to everyone. All subjective. For instance; My main Shep is modeled and named after me. I have 9 other Shepards. 7 of them are female. If I make more Shepards, I'm not going to keep modeling them after myself. I'd never experience other playstyles and plots.

The bolded part is just so strange to me.  I know that self-insertion is a very common way to play RPGs, but I just don't get the appeal. I'm not Shepard.  Shepard is Shepard.  Shepard is a character all her own that I influence in certain directions.  If anything the multi-player seems more open to self-inserts since the human characters are faceless and have no preset personalities to speak of.  It's far easier to project your own personality onto a blank slate.  Not that I do that either.  ::shrug::  To each their own.

I enjoy making Shepard be ME. He chooses decision I would choose. I am not Shepard. Shepard is ME. But I've also done playthroughs with total different personalities. It's fun to see how YOU would do in RPGs. 

[BaKaNoOB]

Human Female Charakters have nice Ass and body that's why i play with them ....

[ZombieGambit]

2leggywillow wrote...

LegacyOfTheAsh wrote...

ZombieGambit wrote...

You have it backwards. It's weird in SP because you're supposed to "be" Shepard. In MP I play as females all the time because I spec the males and females completely differently. Take my Infiltrator class for example:

Male: Sniper with max weapon damage
Female: Melee with max melee damage

It's backwards to you. It isn't backwards to everyone. All subjective. For instance; My main Shep is modeled and named after me. I have 9 other Shepards. 7 of them are female. If I make more Shepards, I'm not going to keep modeling them after myself. I'd never experience other playstyles and plots.

The bolded part is just so strange to me.  I know that self-insertion is a very common way to play RPGs, but I just don't get the appeal. I'm not Shepard.  Shepard is Shepard.  Shepard is a character all her own that I influence in certain directions.  If anything the multi-player seems more open to self-inserts since the human characters are faceless and have no preset personalities to speak of.  It's far easier to project your own personality onto a blank slate.  Not that I do that either.  ::shrug::  To each their own.

If you don't put yourself in your character's shoes there's really not much of a difference between an RPG and, say, an FPS with a linear story.

If Shepard is just Shepard and not you how is that different from Master Chief being Master Chief?

[Sdrol117]

ZombieGambit wrote...

2leggywillow wrote...

LegacyOfTheAsh wrote...

ZombieGambit wrote...

You have it backwards. It's weird in SP because you're supposed to "be" Shepard. In MP I play as females all the time because I spec the males and females completely differently. Take my Infiltrator class for example:

Male: Sniper with max weapon damage
Female: Melee with max melee damage

It's backwards to you. It isn't backwards to everyone. All subjective. For instance; My main Shep is modeled and named after me. I have 9 other Shepards. 7 of them are female. If I make more Shepards, I'm not going to keep modeling them after myself. I'd never experience other playstyles and plots.

The bolded part is just so strange to me.  I know that self-insertion is a very common way to play RPGs, but I just don't get the appeal. I'm not Shepard.  Shepard is Shepard.  Shepard is a character all her own that I influence in certain directions.  If anything the multi-player seems more open to self-inserts since the human characters are faceless and have no preset personalities to speak of.  It's far easier to project your own personality onto a blank slate.  Not that I do that either.  ::shrug::  To each their own.

If you don't put yourself in your character's shoes there's really not much of a difference between an RPG and, say, an FPS with a linear story.

If Shepard is just Shepard and not you how is that different from Master Chief being Master Chief?

Because you get to CHOOSE Shepard's personality. You ROLE PLAY an evil character. Or ROLE PLAY a nice character, You don't choose Master Chiefs personality. It's vastly different. You sem to have tunnel vision on this concept. 

[2leggywillow]

ZombieGambit wrote...
If you don't put yourself in your character's shoes there's really not much of a difference between an RPG and, say, an FPS with a linear story.

If Shepard is just Shepard and not you how is that different from Master Chief being Master Chief?

That's not even a little bit true.The difference is that Master Chief is a character you have no control over.  With Shepard, you choose her background, her motivations, and the personality that shapes her decisions.  "What would make this character fall in love with this person, what would make this character make that choice", etc.  For me personally (and quite obviously from the responses in this thread this isn't the case for everyone), the role-playing aspect comes from putting myself in someone else's shoes.

That's like saying a writer can't write about any character that isn't based on themselves.

EDIT:  I feel the need to clarify that by "putting myself in someone else's shoes", I do not mean literally just transplanting myself into someone else's shoes (or in this case, for example, Shepard's armor) as a self-insert.

Modifié par 2leggywillow, 17 avril 2012 - 06:47 .

[Kimori]

Sdrol117 wrote...

Do you have anything important to contribute, or you just gonna be buttthurt? 

I did. Page one. And I never made any attacks on YOU.

[Sdrol117]

He's basically saying that it's impossible for me to used to have roleplayed Garrus Vakarian.

[Sdrol117]

Kimori wrote...

Sdrol117 wrote...

Do you have anything important to contribute, or you just gonna be buttthurt? 

I did. Page one. And I never made any attacks on YOU.

You decided to quote me for no reason, and say it's an opinion. No **** sherlock, this entire thread is based on opinion. Your opinion is no more valid than mine, Hale sucks. Problem?

[Nocturnalfox]

Nobody cares what gender you are or what your fave gender/race is in game, as long as you are having fun why does it matter...

It is quite funny when I see a fem infil and hear Zak dingle speaking (English soap) 

[Kimori]

@sdrol117: We can agree to disagree, but you don't need to be so abrasive about it.

[KiraTsukasa]

I think it's good that I'm a male that plays female half the time. If I was female, I'd be touching myself. ALL THE TIME.

Modifié par KiraTsukasa, 17 avril 2012 - 06:48 .

[firepixiedarien]

/thread

Modifié par firepixiedarien, 17 avril 2012 - 06:50 .

[KiraTsukasa]

Sdrol117 wrote...

Kimori wrote...

Sdrol117 wrote...

Do you have anything important to contribute, or you just gonna be buttthurt? 

I did. Page one. And I never made any attacks on YOU.

You decided to quote me for no reason, and say it's an opinion. No **** sherlock, this entire thread is based on opinion. Your opinion is no more valid than mine, Hale sucks. Problem?

Sheena Fujibyashi and Aayla Secura say otherwise.

[Sdrol117]

Kimori wrote...

@sdrol117: We can agree to disagree, but you don't need to be so abrasive about it.

You decided to single me out for no reason besides our opinions differed, you deserve any snide remarks you get.

[Sdrol117]

KiraTsukasa wrote...

Sdrol117 wrote...

Kimori wrote...

Sdrol117 wrote...

Do you have anything important to contribute, or you just gonna be buttthurt? 

I did. Page one. And I never made any attacks on YOU.

You decided to quote me for no reason, and say it's an opinion. No **** sherlock, this entire thread is based on opinion. Your opinion is no more valid than mine, Hale sucks. Problem?

Sheena Fujibyashi and Aayla Secura say otherwise.

I have no idea who they are. That just gives me more reason not to care. Mark meer is the biotic god. /topic

Modifié par Sdrol117, 17 avril 2012 - 06:51 .

[Kimori]

Sdrol117 wrote...

Kimori wrote...

@sdrol117: We can agree to disagree, but you don't need to be so abrasive about it.

You decided to single me out for no reason besides our opinions differed, you deserve any snide remarks you get.

In your opinion.

[sheltomlee]

Well if you want to play a Quarian/whatever then you have to play as female. Where's Reager damnit?!!

[KiraTsukasa]

Sdrol117 wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

Sdrol117 wrote...

Kimori wrote...

Sdrol117 wrote...

Do you have anything important to contribute, or you just gonna be buttthurt? 

I did. Page one. And I never made any attacks on YOU.

You decided to quote me for no reason, and say it's an opinion. No **** sherlock, this entire thread is based on opinion. Your opinion is no more valid than mine, Hale sucks. Problem?

Sheena Fujibyashi and Aayla Secura say otherwise.

I have no idea who they are. That just gives me more reason not to care. Mark meer is the biotic god. /topic

That is quite sad, I must say...