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[BABEik52092]

111987 wrote...

BABEik52092 wrote...

111987 wrote...

Yes. The Reaper threat has been removed and no matter how many die in the aftermath, as long as the human race lives on, than we have won.

Because losing would have meant the end of the human race. A depleted human race>extinct human race.

Ok, I disagree.

-In Control, the Reapers leave under Shepard's command but it does not solve the the issue at hand: Synthetics will continue to be made, and if StarIdiot is to be believed, will wipe out all organics including humans. If it comes down to it, Shepard will probably have the Reapers come back into play to prevent complete genocide of organic. So here, the Reapers are still in play and the human race could will likely go extinct.

-In Destroy, if the EMS is low enough, all of Earth is engulfed in flames killing the billion of humans left on the planet. This essentialy wipes out the human race. If the EMS is high enough, sure the Reapers are all gone sure. However, you do nothing to solve the problem that the synthetics will be created, will rebel, and will kill us all. With no Reapers left to "save organics", the human race is toast.

-In Synthesis, the Reapers still are around STILL UNDER STARCHILD CONTROL AND NOT SHEPARDS. What is stopping the new synthetic/organic hybrid galaxy to create just pure synthetics again? If they do, the will rebel and will most likely will out all synthetic/orgainc hybrids, including the humans. The Reapers are still around, and the humans will likely go extinct.

The question the OP asked is "Do you feel like you took back Earth?". In MY playthrough, the only one valid for MY answer, I feel like I did.

Besides, all your counter points are based off the assumption that the StarChild is correct about the inevitability of the cycle. If you don't accept the Catalyst's premise, your counter points are moot.

And my point is being just because you don't want to believe the Catalyst doesn't make him a liar. What if he is telling the truth? If he is, all 3 endings are temporary solutions that DO NOT solve the problem at hand. The synthetics will rebel, and humanity will most likely be wiped out. I wanted to take Earth back with certainity. We only got it back temporary.

[I am KROGAN]

No, a small portion of London does not constitute Earth in the slightest.

Mass Effect 3: Take back a 10 block portion of London.

[Filanwizard]

I think the spacekid was lying simply because he is the one that controls the reapers, and has not earned trust.

Also has no proof that this cycle will involve rogue killbots again. Hell the Geth War was sparked by a kneejerk action by the Quarian leadership. as seen in game, not all of them wanted to destroy the sentient geth.(Hey Just like reality, the Leadership of government was a bunch of idiots.)

Would have been awesome to take back vancouver, LA, New York.  Help Godzilla take Tokyo.

have a whole bunch of priority missions taking down the reapers in various cities.

However have the cities optional and have that be one of the things that alters the endings,  the more cities you clean up the better things get at the end.

Modifié par Filanwizard, 17 avril 2012 - 06:01 .

[Reofeir]

I did feel like I took back earth...just I didn't have a "WOO PARTY WE TOOK BACK EARTH!" more like a "I did it...but it cost a lot to do so". Just how I felt.

[111987]

BABEik52092 wrote...

And my point is being just because you don't want to believe the Catalyst doesn't make him a liar. What if he is telling the truth? If he is, all 3 endings are temporary solutions that DO NOT solve the problem at hand. The synthetics will rebel, and humanity will most likely be wiped out. I wanted to take Earth back with certainity. We only got it back temporary.

The Catalyst could very well be right. It's up to your Shepard to decide whether it is right or not. And since it's left open, you can't say that I'm wrong and you're right, and vice versa.

[Reofeir]

Filanwizard wrote...

I think the spacekid was lying simply because he is the one that controls the reapers, and has not earned trust.

Also has no proof that this cycle will involve rogue killbots again. Hell the Geth War was sparked by a kneejerk action by the Quarian leadership. as seen in game, not all of them wanted to destroy the sentient geth.(Hey Just like reality, the Leadership of government was a bunch of idiots.)

I just take it as: Starkid wasn't *lying* persay...he just said what he beleived was true. Thus we can't really prove him wrong, nor can we prove him right with what we have. I never really pay attention to him. My focus is on the device we had to us this whole time to even stop the reapers. He just told me what it does. Just how I viewed it.

[QuintSWE]

Zenor wrote...

I did feel like I took back earth...just I didn't have a "WOO PARTY WE TOOK BACK EARTH!" more like a "I did it...but it cost a lot to do so". Just how I felt.

Pretty much this.

[spawnrofls]

I feel like I ruined the galaxy.

[Kog12]

no... and left everyone in space for dead..

[BABEik52092]

111987 wrote...

BABEik52092 wrote...

And my point is being just because you don't want to believe the Catalyst doesn't make him a liar. What if he is telling the truth? If he is, all 3 endings are temporary solutions that DO NOT solve the problem at hand. The synthetics will rebel, and humanity will most likely be wiped out. I wanted to take Earth back with certainity. We only got it back temporary.

The Catalyst could very well be right. It's up to your Shepard to decide whether it is right or not. And since it's left open, you can't say that I'm wrong and you're right, and vice versa.

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying that while maybe your Shepard though it was wrong and thought that the Starchild was lying and could rest easy knowing all would be solved.

For my Shepard, if he is telling the truth, which I believe he is, then no option in front of me accomplishes my goal to stop "The Cycle". If you couldn't tell, I really hate the ending............

[111987]

BABEik52092 wrote...

111987 wrote...

BABEik52092 wrote...

And my point is being just because you don't want to believe the Catalyst doesn't make him a liar. What if he is telling the truth? If he is, all 3 endings are temporary solutions that DO NOT solve the problem at hand. The synthetics will rebel, and humanity will most likely be wiped out. I wanted to take Earth back with certainity. We only got it back temporary.

The Catalyst could very well be right. It's up to your Shepard to decide whether it is right or not. And since it's left open, you can't say that I'm wrong and you're right, and vice versa.

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying that while maybe your Shepard though it was wrong and thought that the Starchild was lying and could rest easy knowing all would be solved.

For my Shepard, if he is telling the truth, which I believe he is, then no option in front of me accomplishes my goal to stop "The Cycle". If you couldn't tell, I really hate the ending............

Well if you do believe the Catalyst, than you also have to believe it when it says synthesis will bring a lasting peace. If you agree with the Catalyst, than you should choose synthesis.

If you disagree, you could create justification for choosing any of the endings.

[Peranor]

Wendt130 wrote...

No, I don't know if Earth is actually saved or completly destroyed by the mass relays but only way to find out is to wait for the Extended cut

I don't believe that the Mass Relays went supernova.
But anyway, it looks like the Repers did a pretty good job turning earth in to a burning husk.

So I believe that the wording "we took earth back... to the stone age!" is pretty accurate

[BABEik52092]

111987 wrote...

BABEik52092 wrote...

111987 wrote...

BABEik52092 wrote...

And my point is being just because you don't want to believe the Catalyst doesn't make him a liar. What if he is telling the truth? If he is, all 3 endings are temporary solutions that DO NOT solve the problem at hand. The synthetics will rebel, and humanity will most likely be wiped out. I wanted to take Earth back with certainity. We only got it back temporary.

The Catalyst could very well be right. It's up to your Shepard to decide whether it is right or not. And since it's left open, you can't say that I'm wrong and you're right, and vice versa.

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying that while maybe your Shepard though it was wrong and thought that the Starchild was lying and could rest easy knowing all would be solved.

For my Shepard, if he is telling the truth, which I believe he is, then no option in front of me accomplishes my goal to stop "The Cycle". If you couldn't tell, I really hate the ending............

Well if you do believe the Catalyst, than you also have to believe it when it says synthesis will bring a lasting peace. If you agree with the Catalyst, than you should choose synthesis.

If you disagree, you could create justification for choosing any of the endings.

I believe the Catalyst is telling the truth about the problem that Synthetics will rebel and kill all organics.

I do not believe in any of his choices.......I think there is no solution to this core conflict problem.

[Foxcat]

 None of us took earth back.  This game was 50% hype, 40% advertising, and 10% content.

[111987]

BABEik52092 wrote...

111987 wrote...

BABEik52092 wrote...

111987 wrote...

BABEik52092 wrote...

And my point is being just because you don't want to believe the Catalyst doesn't make him a liar. What if he is telling the truth? If he is, all 3 endings are temporary solutions that DO NOT solve the problem at hand. The synthetics will rebel, and humanity will most likely be wiped out. I wanted to take Earth back with certainity. We only got it back temporary.

The Catalyst could very well be right. It's up to your Shepard to decide whether it is right or not. And since it's left open, you can't say that I'm wrong and you're right, and vice versa.

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying that while maybe your Shepard though it was wrong and thought that the Starchild was lying and could rest easy knowing all would be solved.

For my Shepard, if he is telling the truth, which I believe he is, then no option in front of me accomplishes my goal to stop "The Cycle". If you couldn't tell, I really hate the ending............

Well if you do believe the Catalyst, than you also have to believe it when it says synthesis will bring a lasting peace. If you agree with the Catalyst, than you should choose synthesis.

If you disagree, you could create justification for choosing any of the endings.

I believe the Catalyst is telling the truth about the problem that Synthetics will rebel and kill all organics.

I do not believe in any of his choices.......I think there is no solution to this core conflict problem.

So, just out of curiosity, would you allow the Reaper cycle to continue if given the choice?

[magikbbg]

I really felt like I was actively trying to save thessia or more involved with the asari homeworld than I ever was about earth.

[DarthSyphilis59]

No. I felt like my shepard kowtowed to some little space brat without asking any relevant questions. The rest is space magic.

[ChildOfEden]

DrowVampyre wrote...

If by "took back" you mean "turned into a lifeless ball of ash or a field of space debris", then yes.

lol :3

[KingKhan03]

[shadowreflexion]

 No I don't. The fight was in one area really. I felt like I had gained Rannoch due to the fact that I was fighting in war zones. I felt that I gained Tuchanka because of the same reason. If the Reapers hit the earth as hard as they made it seem then I expected to clear out cities one by one. I don't know what the hell happened, (I know what was intended.) but I did not see any fruits of my labors. Make it to the beam, my decisions are made for me, and zap! Game over. Every other planet I fought on felt more important than my own.

[iNyxs]

Not really, more like I felt getting kicked in the groin area.

Modifié par iNyxs, 17 avril 2012 - 06:25 .

[HellbirdIV]

DrowVampyre wrote...

If by "took back" you mean "turned into a lifeless ball of ash or a field of space debris", then yes.

Pretty much this.

"Oops."

[OH-UP-THIS!]

ltkos wrote...

nope, did not take it back.

But I felt like I did something horrible and nasty to the galaxy as a whole... without lube...

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[Balmung31]

Only in the most nebulous way you could think of, did I "take back" Earth.

[Fnork]

No.

Reason ? Contrary to Rannoch and Tuchanka Earth only had 1 mission, in 1 city. Half your war assets are a total no show, you sort of hear what the rest of your team will be doing but you don't see anything of it let alone see anything of what your ME2 team is doing. Why not show Jack knocking over a brute ? Or Grunt tearing into ravagers ? Or the Rachni shredding husks and cannibals ?