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A new Era that capcom has been working on, this is ironic does this mean capcom are trying to competit with bioware. if your making a new project you should at let take a look at there so called new game this seams better then skyrim all together. A new rivial taking down better ideas. unless you can do better?
hypothetically everyone still hoping a new dragon age 3 will be made better than the rest but it Ironic if capcom could do somehting as good as this and try to compair it self to the saga.

they even made a griffin a griffin! in this game, fans may know that the griffin is the crest that symbolises the grey wardens.

cant get the picture because this forum doesnt except photos copy and paste of websites or google.

http://www.dragonsdogma.com/
also check out. sorry I couldn't get any images about what I'm trying to proof to you guys.

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this does proof that bioware can match and it is related but its a step up to a new world to make the next rpoject interesting. I don't see why people are not talking a look or replying to what Im saying.

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John locked this thread when you posted it on the other board. Maybe start a thread in the Off-Topic forum?

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Well it's pretty late in the US- it's 3:30 AM East Coast time, so I'm assuming most people who would reply to you are probably in bed because they have jobs and school and life and stuff occasionally.

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its only 5.30pm in Australia, melbourne. I always assume people just don't like me and the message I make.

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It is more that I don't understand what you message have to do with Dragon Age. How, can I compare a game who I have yet to play with Dragon Age. And why should I? Besides vs. threads are not allowed. This topic belongs to off-topic forum.

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I was trying to get suggestions on the matter comparing it with dragon age and was hoping some ideas they made for dragon dogma like giant griffins into the next game. it would make sense since its part of the gray wardens crest

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No one has any issues with you or the message that you make. This would probably be better served in the off topic forum, however, which can be found here: http://social.biowar...tegory/13/index

Locking this thread.


EDIT:  Upon seeing your most recent post, I'm willing to keep this open a bit longer.  If the OP can provide some additional points to get the ball rolling for a comparison and how it can relate to future Dragon Age titles it would help. =]


Is there anything you've heard about the game that you think would be an interesting component for the Dragon Age franchise?

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Allan Schumacher wrote...

No one has any issues with you or the message that you make. This would probably be better served in the off topic forum, however, which can be found here: http://social.biowar...tegory/13/index

Locking this thread.


EDIT:  Upon seeing your most recent post, I'm willing to keep this open a bit longer.  If the OP can provide some additional points to get the ball rolling for a comparison and how it can relate to future Dragon Age titles it would help. =]


Is there anything you've heard about the game that you think would be an interesting component for the Dragon Age franchise?


Noted: and point taken. I will delete this post myself because I didn't understand thank you allan

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I have seen that some of this game reminds me of dragon age orgins and the dragons, with the extra monsters in the new capcom game. thought taking some ideas from them would help with any project you may make in the future also having heard you may regard skyrim as complented game

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lol having diffculty removing this post myself anyway no option....

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ShadowAussie wrote...

I have seen that some of this game reminds me of dragon age orgins and the dragons, with the extra monsters in the new capcom game. thought taking some ideas from them would help with any project you may make in the future also having heard you may regard skyrim as complented game


To take up the discussion: I don't want bioware to add monster, just for adding monster. And we already have one exitenct race becoming non-extinct: The dragons. If we add griffon too... Well we've got to have a good reason for them not being dead. (Not that it couldn't be found).
I also want them to make their own monsters: Not Dragon Dogma's.

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esper wrote...

ShadowAussie wrote...

I have seen that some of this game reminds me of dragon age orgins and the dragons, with the extra monsters in the new capcom game. thought taking some ideas from them would help with any project you may make in the future also having heard you may regard skyrim as complented game


To take up the discussion: I don't want bioware to add monster, just for adding monster. And we already have one exitenct race becoming non-extinct: The dragons. If we add griffon too... Well we've got to have a good reason for them not being dead. (Not that it couldn't be found).
I also want them to make their own monsters: Not Dragon Dogma's.



fair enough, but I would like to see atleast a giant griffin in the game. why else would grey wardens have a cresent on a griffin. maybe its possible they can make a smaller griffin with a different soun and fairly look and color to them. it would be interesting at best like the dragon in mark of the assassin.

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ShadowAussie wrote...

esper wrote...

ShadowAussie wrote...

I have seen that some of this game reminds me of dragon age orgins and the dragons, with the extra monsters in the new capcom game. thought taking some ideas from them would help with any project you may make in the future also having heard you may regard skyrim as complented game


To take up the discussion: I don't want bioware to add monster, just for adding monster. And we already have one exitenct race becoming non-extinct: The dragons. If we add griffon too... Well we've got to have a good reason for them not being dead. (Not that it couldn't be found).
I also want them to make their own monsters: Not Dragon Dogma's.



fair enough, but I would like to see atleast a giant griffin in the game. why else would grey wardens have a cresent on a griffin. maybe its possible they can make a smaller griffin with a different soun and fairly look and color to them. it would be interesting at best like the dragon in mark of the assassin.


They use to ride them into battle. Untill they all died and the griffon is no moreImage IPB
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Dragons Dogma is very ineresting. It's sort of Bioware from the opposite direction. Bioware has been getting closer an closer to the JRPG model. Capcam is having a go at stepping away from it. Capcom aside (always a risk) DD looks pretty incredible. Much more interesting combat than DA2.
Leads me to believe that DA3 needs to pick a direction and either go fo the feeling of combat (like DD) or the mechanics of combat in a board game way, which is what DA and DA2 did.

Obviously DD will be out very soon so it's not really worth overspeculating until it's released and played.

Thing with DD it's not just a case of adding monsters, its also adding ways to fight those monsters. Example, you can jump on top of a cyclops, rip its helmet off which opens up its eye as a target. Grab its leg so it can't move well, target it's club so that you reduce its attack range.

 Here it is in action.

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esper wrote...

ShadowAussie wrote...

esper wrote...

ShadowAussie wrote...

I have seen that some of this game reminds me of dragon age orgins and the dragons, with the extra monsters in the new capcom game. thought taking some ideas from them would help with any project you may make in the future also having heard you may regard skyrim as complented game


To take up the discussion: I don't want bioware to add monster, just for adding monster. And we already have one exitenct race becoming non-extinct: The dragons. If we add griffon too... Well we've got to have a good reason for them not being dead. (Not that it couldn't be found).
I also want them to make their own monsters: Not Dragon Dogma's.



fair enough, but I would like to see atleast a giant griffin in the game. why else would grey wardens have a cresent on a griffin. maybe its possible they can make a smaller griffin with a different soun and fairly look and color to them. it would be interesting at best like the dragon in mark of the assassin.


They use to ride them into battle. Untill they all died and the griffon is no moreImage IPB
...


haven't heard of this. but the mith should be reborn into the saga. atleast having one in a game. look what they did with dragon age. the highdragon is a mith but they indeed brought the archdemon and highdragons. do remember the mith of the Wraiths the dwarfs talked about then in dragon age 2 the rock wraith was reborn, even the creatures that use to protect the dalish elfs back in the day when the tevintor took over their land. but they were then seen. do not forget the past and things may happen....

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BobSmith101 wrote...

Dragons Dogma is very ineresting. It's sort of Bioware from the opposite direction. Bioware has been getting closer an closer to the JRPG model. Capcam is having a go at stepping away from it. Capcom aside (always a risk) DD looks pretty incredible. Much more interesting combat than DA2.
Leads me to believe that DA3 needs to pick a direction and either go fo the feeling of combat (like DD) or the mechanics of combat in a board game way, which is what DA and DA2 did.

Obviously DD will be out very soon so it's not really worth overspeculating until it's released and played.

Thing with DD it's not just a case of adding monsters, its also adding ways to fight those monsters. Example, you can jump on top of a cyclops, rip its helmet off which opens up its eye as a target. Grab its leg so it can't move well, target it's club so that you reduce its attack range.

 Here it is in action.


Which is cool. In single person combat. It is not something I want to see in party based games as I have to control a party of 4 (in dragon age's case).

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esper wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Dragons Dogma is very ineresting. It's sort of Bioware from the opposite direction. Bioware has been getting closer an closer to the JRPG model. Capcam is having a go at stepping away from it. Capcom aside (always a risk) DD looks pretty incredible. Much more interesting combat than DA2.
Leads me to believe that DA3 needs to pick a direction and either go fo the feeling of combat (like DD) or the mechanics of combat in a board game way, which is what DA and DA2 did.

Obviously DD will be out very soon so it's not really worth overspeculating until it's released and played.

Thing with DD it's not just a case of adding monsters, its also adding ways to fight those monsters. Example, you can jump on top of a cyclops, rip its helmet off which opens up its eye as a target. Grab its leg so it can't move well, target it's club so that you reduce its attack range.

 Here it is in action.


Which is cool. In single person combat. It is not something I want to see in party based games as I have to control a party of 4 (in dragon age's case).


That's what I mean about DA3 needing to choose a direction either go with interactive flowing combat like DD. Or make the most of being a board game based type combat game. Because as action combat goes DA3 based on DA2 just won't measure up to Dragons Dogma. But it can still be more tactical and interesting in that way. Unfortunately that contradicts the mass market mission statement.

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its interesting how far dragon age gone and bioware does there very best to do so making legends reappear. I would love to see a griffin in the game and have the grey wardens be so suprised as if there seen a ghost. the landscape in this game sounds reasonable. hoping they make something as good. but they do need to to control glitches espically how they still need work with the import situation. some of the imports from each game has so many bugs and corruptions. it needs to be checked not over looked.

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esper wrote...
Which is cool. In single person combat. It is not something I want to see in party based games as I have to control a party of 4 (in dragon age's case).

Try Dragon Age 2 with dual-dagger Rogue wit max Cunning. You only need party members once -  when killing a high Dragon in Act III when he should be attacked via ranged attacks. Rest of the game - you just bash buttons and hack'n'Slash everything and everyone a-la Darksiders.

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ShadowAussie wrote...

its interesting how far dragon age gone and bioware does there very best to do so making legends reappear. I would love to see a griffin in the game and have the grey wardens be so suprised as if there seen a ghost. the landscape in this game sounds reasonable. hoping they make something as good. but they do need to to control glitches espically how they still need work with the import situation. some of the imports from each game has so many bugs and corruptions. it needs to be checked not over looked.


DD has a lot of big monsters with different ways to take them down. Dragon Age on the other hand is generally pummeling away their very large hp bar while staying upright. Differences are minimal whatever you are fighting.

One way to do it in DA is to allow you to target different parts of a creatures body, White Knight Chronciles/Omens of Z'ill style. Figuring out how to get to the areas that can end the battle quickly adds another layer to the strategy/tactics.

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The great thing about games is that if there is mention before of something it can be introduced again.

As stated above things have allready been reintroduced and griffons might as well be too.
I'm not sure how they can be implemented in the story in terms of using them in battle; because this would mean fighting in mid air. A possibility could be like duke Prospor and his pet; use a griffon in a boss fight.

Griffons in DA3 could be a nice addition to the franchise in my opinion though :).

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The idea of Capcom competing with anyone is laughable.

In recent years they have become more incompetent than any other game company I have ever seen, that is including Infograms/Atari.

I do not think that Dragon Age or Bioware have anything to worry about from that quarter.

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The idea of Capcom competing with anyone is laughable.

In recent years they have become more incompetent than any other game company I have ever seen, that is including Infograms/Atari.

I do not think that Dragon Age or Bioware have anything to worry about from that quarter.


In recent years it's not like Bioware have been a shining example either.



If they are looking for the action/RPG market for DA3 I'd say that gives them reason to worry plenty.

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BobSmith101 wrote...

In recent years it's not like Bioware have been a shining example either.



If they are looking for the action/RPG market for DA3 I'd say that gives them reason to worry plenty.



I do not disagree but the difference is that Bioware have descended to the level of "every other" developer out there, before they had something special and unfortunately that something has been lost by how poorly TOR was handled, how badly DA2 was rushed, and how nonsensically bonkers the ending of ME3 was.
Now they are simply "just another" developer.

Capcom started at being "just another" developer. And have sunk so low as to be mind boggling.

They COULD be a threat to Bioware and more specifically the Dragon Age IP depending on two things...

One, They clean up their act and stop being a cynical profit hungry company/game/soul destroying company.
Two, Bioware's level of quality and decidication continues to sink from this point.

And I reckon both are very unlikely.

Modifié par FitScotGaymer, 17 avril 2012 - 03:22 .