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[thunderhawk862002]

xsdob wrote...

thunderhawk862002 wrote...

xsdob wrote...

Name me 1 way that broken steel retconed the endings and didn't just act as an expansion and continuation.

The main character doesn't die.

So after your character passes out, and the continuation and expansion part occurs, is when the change takes place. Cause I was thinking that when one changed the endings, it didn't just entail keeping all the cinematics and gameplay exactly the same, and than just adding additional gameplay and cinematics after the original ending is finished.

Or you know, exactly what bioware has proposed, making additiona scenes that add to the exsisting ending. In fact, I cannot recall any game ever flat out replacing the ending with something new instead of just expanding on the preexsisting ones.

Well let's see if BioWare brings back Shepard to life in any of the additional content.  I wonder if it will send you back before the mission on TIM's base as well or will you be able to continue your adventures post game like broken steel.

[-Spartan]

Tesclo wrote...

LegionMan wrote...

Tesclo wrote...
 You'd rather spend money on promotion than actually making a quality product

Promotion?  WHAT FOR?!

Okay, now that I've got that burst of immaturity out of the way...yes, what happened with ME3 is upsetting.  If I may ask, what is your plan of action should the 'Extended Cut' not be what you expect it to be?

The problem that I have here is that the ending is not the only problem this game (or company for that matter) has. It simply overshadows every other problem including but not limited to:

The day one dlc that should have been included on the disc (which is complete bull and something the industry needs to stop), Bioware taking all but 5 minutes to throw together a photoshop of multiple things including Tali's face (5 years to come up with concept art? Really Bioware?), endless filler content throughout the entire game and a multiplayer that, for lack of a better word, sucks and should have never been included in the game to begin with yet seems to take precedence over the core game in terms of additional content (it's all about milking the consumer, right?), the ****-like environment on these forums that threatens players the second they log in with a huge banner at the top of the page or simply out right bans them for having an opinion, the RETARDED customer support, and of course Bioware's inability to actually speak with or give a damn about the people that actually play their games... I could really go on all day here.

I have never in my life seen a company actively attempt to shoot itself in the foot as much as Bioware has done over the past 2 years and to be honest, I'm sick of it. I honestly don't think I'll even play Mass Effect 3 again. This "extended cut" needs to be something huge to actually get me back in that game... something that doesn't scream "FU give me moar money". The thing that bothers me the most is Bioware seems to have this "us vs them" mentality and they feel that they need to defend themselves against any type of criticism instead of actually addressing it and talking to their customers in a reasonable manner. Do you have any idea how far a simple "we screwed up but we're going to make it right no matter what" would go? Logic has gone out the window with them.

I think most of that, if not all of it, is general EA corporate culture bleeding through. BW was the best developer in the industry for a long time. For the life of me, I still cant understand why BW sold out to EA to be perfectly frank.

Modifié par -Spartan, 20 avril 2012 - 07:29 .

[Mole267]

Yeah at the end of the day, the day 1 DLC was just a greedy move, no matter how you slice it. Didn't the government step in when they discovered that "pink slime" (which usually goes to pet food) was making its way into ground beef in our grocery stores and fast food?

Videogames are also products that we expect to be good quality for what we pay, and they shouldn't be trying to pad their profits every where they can just to squeeze us. It's bad enough they bleed their developers dry, but they have to bleed their customers who give them money for their mansions and private jets too?

[-Spartan]

Mole267 wrote...

Yeah at the end of the day, the day 1 DLC was just a greedy move, no matter how you slice it. Didn't the government step in when they discovered that "pink slime" (which usually goes to pet food) was making its way into ground beef in our grocery stores and fast food?

Videogames are also products that we expect to be good quality for what we pay, and they shouldn't be trying to pad their profits every where they can just to squeeze us. It's bad enough they bleed their developers dry, but they have to bleed their customers who give them money for their mansions and private jets too?

Unfortunately for us, from a regulatory standpoint the video game industry is pretty much treated as nuisance toy manufacturer and the publishers are perfectly happy with that it seems. 

Modifié par -Spartan, 20 avril 2012 - 07:35 .

[thunderhawk862002]

-Spartan wrote...

Mole267 wrote...

Yeah at the end of the day, the day 1 DLC was just a greedy move, no matter how you slice it. Didn't the government step in when they discovered that "pink slime" (which usually goes to pet food) was making its way into ground beef in our grocery stores and fast food?

Videogames are also products that we expect to be good quality for what we pay, and they shouldn't be trying to pad their profits every where they can just to squeeze us. It's bad enough they bleed their developers dry, but they have to bleed their customers who give them money for their mansions and private jets too?

Unfortunately for us, from a regulatory standpoint the video game industry is pretty much treated as nuisance toy manufacturer and the publishers are perfectly happy with that it seems. 

I wonder if Capcom's investors will continue to be happy if the downward trend of the company continues.  It still has its devout fans but it seems like a lot of people lost consumer confidence in Capcom.  Every time a game is released for a console I wonder how long it will be until the ultimate edition comes out.  I mean Capcom has been doing that for nearly every game it seems. 

[Oldbones2]

ZombieGambit wrote...

Broken Steel is nothing like the ME3 ending debacle. FO3 fans liked the ending, they just wanted to continue to play. In ME3 everyone is complaining how the ending is terrible and want it rewritten.

It's the difference between an encore and a brand new set list, if you know about bands.

If that were true they could have just loaded up a save from before the final mission and kept playing. 


The fans HATED the fact that they were forced into a little illigical box for no reason.

[Rotkaepchen]

-Spartan wrote...

I think most of that, if not all of it, is general EA corporate culture bleeding through. BW was the best developer in the industry for a long time. For the life of me, I still cant understand why BW sold out to EA to be perfectly frank.

Not much to understand. €A approached the founders of BW and offered them a few millions for the sell out and royal payments for the same jobs as CEOs they've always done.