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[QuintSWE]

Eire Icon wrote...

macarius5 wrote...

. what i did not expect was that Wrex learned of my betrayal and confronted me in the normandy docks. It was unexpected, it pains me to press the R1 button (PS3) renegade action to kill him. It was horrible.

At what stage did this happen? I'm about to retake Rannoch and this never happened in my playthrough so far anyway?

It happens after Rannoch, you get called to the Citadel to talk to the Asari ambassador and after that, when you try to leave the citadel, Wrex is waiting for you (atleast, that's when I got the scene, not sure if it's always triggered by going to meet the Asari Ambassador or if it's something else)

Really starting to dislike my renegade shepard now that I've had her kill both Mordin & Wrex. 

[SilentK]

macarius5 wrote...

I did though, in one of my play through using an imported renegade femshep from ME2, it was to see if I can get the cooperation of the salarians. what i did not expect was that Wrex learned of my betrayal and confronted me in the normandy docks. It was unexpected, it pains me to press the R1 button (PS3) renegade action to kill him. It was horrible. On one of shepards dreams (chasing scene with the child), you do get the whisper (distinct it was wrex), saying I know what you did, like your conscience bothering you.

You also get to talk with Garrus about your betrayal and how you also killed Mordin (in stopping the genophase cure). It was really uncomfortable, like committing a very heinous crime.

Same thing with Legion (killing him off multiple times thru the renegade option) where Tali comitted suicide after the failed attempt to stop the Geth & Quarians from fighting.

I was a horrible scene, it was a different feeling when playing as a paragon shep. feeling good saving people, caring for them but for the renegade .... you need to be prepared for it. especially if you care about the characters.

When do you get to talk to Garrus?

I killed Padok Wiks last night, had a little convo with Garrus on the bridge about the whole thing but never got the option to come clean. Intense emotions, glad I have seen it once but next FemShep will be a blue little paragon-angel again,lol

[Eire Icon]

SilentK wrote...

macarius5 wrote...

I did though, in one of my play through using an imported renegade femshep from ME2, it was to see if I can get the cooperation of the salarians. what i did not expect was that Wrex learned of my betrayal and confronted me in the normandy docks. It was unexpected, it pains me to press the R1 button (PS3) renegade action to kill him. It was horrible. On one of shepards dreams (chasing scene with the child), you do get the whisper (distinct it was wrex), saying I know what you did, like your conscience bothering you.

You also get to talk with Garrus about your betrayal and how you also killed Mordin (in stopping the genophase cure). It was really uncomfortable, like committing a very heinous crime.

Same thing with Legion (killing him off multiple times thru the renegade option) where Tali comitted suicide after the failed attempt to stop the Geth & Quarians from fighting.

I was a horrible scene, it was a different feeling when playing as a paragon shep. feeling good saving people, caring for them but for the renegade .... you need to be prepared for it. especially if you care about the characters.

When do you get to talk to Garrus?

I killed Padok Wiks last night, had a little convo with Garrus on the bridge about the whole thing but never got the option to come clean. Intense emotions, glad I have seen it once but next FemShep will be a blue little paragon-angel again,lol

Really is a great scene on the bridge where Garrus is talking about the temptation to not cure the genophage says something along the lines of

"Don't get me wrong you'd need to have ice running through your veins, besides Mordin would never allow it"

Shepard walks away

"No.............. he wouldn't"

Great scene - agree with the people saying your really missing out if you don't do at least one hardcore Renegade playthrough

Modifié par Eire Icon, 18 avril 2012 - 10:05 .

[MysticSpace]

Never. Wrex said I was like a sister to him...womanly tears were wept.

[macarius5]

kumquats wrote...

macarius5 wrote...
Yes I agree on this, the renegade option has one of the most intense playthrough, can really evoke strong emotional response (for the emotionally invested in the game) especially those who opted the paragon shepard and have grown to like the characters.  I recommend to try this one to those who are curious of the other outcomes.  But what really shocked me about playing renegade is that I have no clue of what my actions would be... and oh the things in store for me was definitely disturbing... did not feel good though after witnessing those cutscenes and interaction with Garrus.

I wish though I have this strong emotional response about the ending to have that catharsis.  Great game, no other game had me this emotionally attached and invested.  I hope the Extended Cut delivers.

So I'm a little nervous about the extended cut, to be honest.
Did I really kill the Krogans? What will my Squadis think of Shepard, when the truth comes out? ( I lied to them about the Cure and Mordin.)

I am curious what the extended scene is for my renegade femshep about the Krogans.  On this not one my very great moments playthrough, felt horrible really, Eve was alive since I saved the data on the genephage cure on Mordin's loyalty mission in ME2.  It was also my hope that although I betrayed Wrex, Eve is still alive to rectify the backstabling I made (shooting Mordin in the back in Tuchangca when I could not convince him not to release the cure & shooting Wrex in the Citiadel docks).  

By the way, there is another playthrough (for my mix renegade+paragon shepard), if you want Mordin alive and want to have the cooperation of the Salarians, you have to kill Wrex in ME1, destroy the data in Mordin's loyalty mission in ME2.  You have Wreav as the Krogan leader (would not suspect your betrayal) but Eve end up dead after the Tuchangca mission in ME3.  The cutscene eulogoy on Eve's burial, it was still uncomfortable, where Wreav honors you as a Krogan hero for curing the genephage.  Consolation I have is at least I have Mordin alive. 

[sistersafetypin]

Not once ever. I couldn't even bring my Shep to get to upset with him in ME1 when he kills that minor mob boss guy

[C-Sec Officer]

I would never betray wrex.

[Steel Dancer]

Nope, closest I can get to it is a playthrough where I just didn't pick up Wrex as a team mate in the first place.

Still kept going down to talk to him and then going "where the hell's Wr... dammit!"

Quick edit: Wrex doesn't appear in ME2 at all if you don't pick him up in ME1, just... vanishes.

Modifié par Steel Dancer, 19 avril 2012 - 01:15 .

[Serp86]

Nah Wrex can be trusted enough to keep his hands off everyone but a few Salarians and some of those eyelicking , fly eating lizards deserve what coming to them. There's only 2 nice Salarians you ever meet and one of them dies curing the Genophage.

As long as he keeps his hands of my buddy Kirrahe we'll be fine.

Modifié par Serp86, 19 avril 2012 - 01:17 .

[krayt298]

The Angry One wrote...

We all did at the ending. Stranded him and his best men from Tuchanka, dooming Krogan society to a slow death by infighting.

You're welcome, Wrex.

[tractrpl]

My paragon seriously contemplated it. I'm not so sure the Krogan are ready for it. However, I realized that whatever is created can be recreated. If the Krogan get out of hand, they can be defeated once more.

[Cyne]

Yeah. My renegade FemShep always intended to keep the krogan populations down, she more than anyone realized the long term issues that would arise had the genophage been cured. Mordin was right to create it; his change of heart in ME3 was basically down to guilt. He couldn't take the rational approach and simply allow the population to wither away, which would prevent ANOTHER war in the future, so my shep had to stop him :[
Admittedly, it was hard to do that. I loved that entire mission.

Modifié par Cyne, 19 avril 2012 - 01:19 .

[Father Alvito]

Absolutely. I wouldn't say it was easy, though. Both were my favorite squadmates in their respective games, and Mordin's bravery was really touching.

The decision to betray Wrex seemed fairly straightforward to me; it's the price for Salarian cooperation, and the long-term consequences of curing the genophage are most likely poor. Whether you trust Wrex or not, he won't live forever. More importantly, whether you cure the genophage is irrelevant if you lose to the Reapers, so maximizing the chances of success has to take precedence.

I found killing Mordin in cold blood to be a great deal more difficult. You have to admire his desire to make amends for what he did to the Krogan, as well as his courage.

After you put Wrex down, you have the opportunity to level with Garrus about the whole thing.

[tractrpl]

Cyne wrote...

Yeah. My renegade FemShep always intended to keep the krogan populations down, she more than anyone realized the long term issues that would arise had the genophage been cured. Mordin was right to create it; his change of heart in ME3 was basically down to guilt. He couldn't take the rational approach and simply allow the population to wither away, which would prevent ANOTHER war in the future, so my shep had to stop him :[
Admittedly, it was hard to do that. I loved that entire mission.

The council said the same thing regarding the Rachni but I saved them, even as a renegade. I knew that failing to cure the genophage would hurt more than help the war effort. The consequences are for future generations to worry about. However, I feel confident that they'd be able to handle any future Krogan rebellion if one ever happens.

[macarius5]

Eire Icon wrote...

SilentK wrote...

macarius5 wrote...

I did though, in one of my play through using an imported renegade femshep from ME2, it was to see if I can get the cooperation of the salarians. what i did not expect was that Wrex learned of my betrayal and confronted me in the normandy docks. It was unexpected, it pains me to press the R1 button (PS3) renegade action to kill him. It was horrible. On one of shepards dreams (chasing scene with the child), you do get the whisper (distinct it was wrex), saying I know what you did, like your conscience bothering you.

You also get to talk with Garrus about your betrayal and how you also killed Mordin (in stopping the genophase cure). It was really uncomfortable, like committing a very heinous crime.

Same thing with Legion (killing him off multiple times thru the renegade option) where Tali comitted suicide after the failed attempt to stop the Geth & Quarians from fighting.

I was a horrible scene, it was a different feeling when playing as a paragon shep. feeling good saving people, caring for them but for the renegade .... you need to be prepared for it. especially if you care about the characters.

When do you get to talk to Garrus?

I killed Padok Wiks last night, had a little convo with Garrus on the bridge about the whole thing but never got the option to come clean. Intense emotions, glad I have seen it once but next FemShep will be a blue little paragon-angel again,lol

Really is a great scene on the bridge where Garrus is talking about the temptation to not cure the genophage says something along the lines of

"Don't get me wrong you'd need to have ice running through your veins, besides Mordin would never allow it"

Shepard walks away

"No.............. he wouldn't"

Great scene - agree with the people saying your really missing out if you don't do at least one hardcore Renegade playthrough

Yup I agree, it was a great scene with Garrus, I was afraid he would be confrontational about my actions on betraying Wrex, I think he understands that in War, hard choices has to be made.  I think prior to killing Wrex in the citiadel docks, one of the talks I have with Garrus was on, I could not recall verbatim, something about killing your comrades if the situation demands it - winning the war against the reapers at all cause (killing the few to save billions). 

I did recall also Javik mentioned something about my deception (about killing Wrex) - though I have not categorically admitted it - have this conversion prior to Garrus.

What was so damning about my killing Wrex is that Barley seemed to just blindedly accepted that my encounter with Wrex was on a deal gone wrong (bet).  He never investigated further.  Then you will read a message on your terminal on this as a news feed from ANN.

[SilentK]

Eire Icon wrote...

Really is a great scene on the bridge where Garrus is talking about the temptation to not cure the genophage says something along the lines of

"Don't get me wrong you'd need to have ice running through your veins, besides Mordin would never allow it"

Shepard walks away

"No.............. he wouldn't"

Great scene - agree with the people saying your really missing out if you don't do at least one hardcore Renegade playthrough

Jupp... I got that... But for me it was Padok Wiks, but I felt sooo mean when just walking away with that "No.... he wouldn't". And I took the "He was a rare soul" when talking to Wreav and Bakara afterwards about him dying to save the krogans. Aughh...


Not my proudest hour, not at all. But have never ever done something so renegade before, but I simply couldn't leave Wreav with such power. This little FemShep is breaking apart at the seams.


And boy do you feel like a dog for it afterwards....  But it makes the discussion with Vega afterwards, about that the only thing that matter is that you can look at the person in the mirror every morning all the more touching.

I like that when you talked to Hackett about how you got the salarians to cooperate, and Shepard says something about "forcefull diplomacy" or something, he goes silent for a little while and then says that he doesn't want to know. Jupp, you really don't.

Augh... so painful, and soo good.

Modifié par SilentK, 19 avril 2012 - 06:34 .

[Cuddlezarro]

nope

butI did convince Mordin to screw over wreave

[Ultra Prism]

No way ...

[Flammenpanzer]

the_geo_law wrote...

I couldn't... it just wasn't in me. I watched the video on YouTube and I saw how sad Wrex is.

I didn't know this was possible till I saw it on Youtube. I died a little.

Mordin's renegade shot was also painful to watch on Youtube....

And Tali's death...

I'm down now.

[Kosmiker]

Yes I did, Eve was always my LI.

[Djacques812]

Wrex is my squadmate from Me1 and one of the smartest krogans around. Betraying him...it just doesn't compute... I don't know for ya but the squadmates have become my Shepard's family So much so that Betraying any of them would be the furthest thing from my mind. I can't say anything about anyone who does the opposite. I guess everyone is entitled to their own choice even if it is douchebagish.

[Kenshen]

Wow 11 months back that is impressive. On topic I did shot Wrex once on Virmire on purpose and another time Ash did when i wasn't paying attention but in ME3 I could never do that to him or the Krogan and the same with the Geth and Quarians. I can't even get myself to watch the videos of others doing this. Just too sad.

[nrobbiec]

I always kill Wrex on Virmire. I don't like him and the way I see it, it's a choice between him and Mordin. No contest.

[nani7788]

Yes.