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[FutureBoy81]

Another question who the hell impregnated the banshees

[Father_Jerusalem]

While I certainly don't need, like, hardcore porn in my video games, there has to be a middle line between that and between taking a freaking shower with your underwear on.

I mean, come on. That's just ASKING to be mocked, because it's so insanely ridiculous.

[FRANCESCO84Inn]

the problem not come exist for me if games like ME is made only for adult gamer,

the Pegi 18 exist for this reason,

not is necessery not put nude scene in the game or film,

i need content for adult,

i'm 27 years old and why i'm not free to view in ME some nude scene ?

[Degs29]

Iluvantir wrote...

Overule wrote...

EA is run by ****** and Christians are sufficiently annoying/socially accepted to get their way.

There, I've explained it.

Matey, I'm a Christian. I much prefered the first game's love scene over the watered down versions of ME2 and 3. Not saying I'd want XXX rated in the games, but I wouldn't scream and shout if YOU wanted such and received such. Please, either don't make such sweeping statements that are not founded on fact, or be specific with your statements: there are some VOCAL HARD-CORE FAR RIGHT Christian groups that are sufficiently annoying... etc.

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, and don't lump us all in the same boat - or is it also acceptable for me to blame all Germans because a small group of them bombed seven kinds of hell out of my country in WW2? Lay the blame where it belongs, please.

While I don't hold (at all) with religion, luvantir has a point.  A good share of the Christian population isn't going to throw a fit over a bit of flesh, but the most vocal, right-wing aspect of them are.  Unfortunately, outspoken people can be bad for business and maybe they caved a little accordingly.  I grew up playing video games, and now that I'm an adult, I want adult video games.  No, not games that are listed in most adult sections of flash game sites.  I mean games with real stories and good gameplay, yet still games that don't shy away from adult situations.

I think we're going to see more of that as more and more of the gamer population matures.

Modifié par Degs29, 17 avril 2012 - 05:07 .

[Father_Jerusalem]

aLucidMind wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

While I certainly don't need, like, hardcore porn in my video games, there has to be a middle line between that and between taking a freaking shower with your underwear on.

I mean, come on. That's just ASKING to be mocked, because it's so insanely ridiculous.

I think Liara's scene in ME3 was a pretty decent middle ground. A shame none of the other romances options got anywhere near the same treatment Liara did.

Liara's scene was clearly the best, Ashley's was acceptable. Traynor's was a joke, and Tali/Miranda/Jack's scenes were... well. What scenes? One of my bigger issues with ME3 was the absolute mockery of relationship scenes given to your ME2 love interest over your ME1 love interest.

[Degs29]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

aLucidMind wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

While I certainly don't need, like, hardcore porn in my video games, there has to be a middle line between that and between taking a freaking shower with your underwear on.

I mean, come on. That's just ASKING to be mocked, because it's so insanely ridiculous.

I think Liara's scene in ME3 was a pretty decent middle ground. A shame none of the other romances options got anywhere near the same treatment Liara did.

Liara's scene was clearly the best, Ashley's was acceptable. Traynor's was a joke, and Tali/Miranda/Jack's scenes were... well. What scenes? One of my bigger issues with ME3 was the absolute mockery of relationship scenes given to your ME2 love interest over your ME1 love interest.

Hey, look at that.  Something we finally agree on!

[Cainne Chapel]

I liked the Tali scene.

Of course i also fully expected it to show next to no nudity or the like... she IS a quarian after all. ...and jack... it would of been nice to HAVE some kind of romantic scene with her other than making out in front of teenagers...

As for Miranda, the interaction with her was good, there just needed to be MORE of it.

Well that could be said for all the other sidelined ME2 love interests I guess.

[Good_Chaos7]

aLucidMind wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

While I certainly don't need, like, hardcore porn in my video games, there has to be a middle line between that and between taking a freaking shower with your underwear on.

I mean, come on. That's just ASKING to be mocked, because it's so insanely ridiculous.

I think Liara's scene in ME3 was a pretty decent middle ground. A shame none of the other romances options got anywhere near the same treatment Liara did.

So Freakin true.. it was as if BW was begging  me to romance her but sorry.. She's just not my type..

BioWare! If you're listening! After you fix ME3 with some "New EndingS" & there better be!

after that.. Fix the final Romance scene, seriously.. This Fading to black stuff on ME2 romances or lack there of, has gotta be fixed, Liara gets this phenomenal scene!  Kaidan & Ashleys are good, But us Garrus, Jack, Miranda, ME2 Romancers practically get shafted..<_<

Modifié par Good_Chaos7, 17 avril 2012 - 06:01 .

[Tarothe]

Well, I still think that M.Shep and Kaidan's love scene in ME3, censored as It was, was still the best MxM scene in a video game. Just saying.

Modifié par Tarothe, 17 avril 2012 - 05:13 .

[Good_Chaos7]

Tarothe wrote...

Well, I still think that M.Shep and Kaidan's love scene in ME3, censored as It was, was still the best MxM scene in a video game. Just saying.

Agreed!!<3

[Father_Jerusalem]

Degs29 wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

aLucidMind wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

While I certainly don't need, like, hardcore porn in my video games, there has to be a middle line between that and between taking a freaking shower with your underwear on.

I mean, come on. That's just ASKING to be mocked, because it's so insanely ridiculous.

I think Liara's scene in ME3 was a pretty decent middle ground. A shame none of the other romances options got anywhere near the same treatment Liara did.

Liara's scene was clearly the best, Ashley's was acceptable. Traynor's was a joke, and Tali/Miranda/Jack's scenes were... well. What scenes? One of my bigger issues with ME3 was the absolute mockery of relationship scenes given to your ME2 love interest over your ME1 love interest.

Hey, look at that.  Something we finally agree on!

I fully admit ME3 has its issues, and will be vocal about those issues, I just don't think the ending is one. Tali's face (though I can understand it more than some can, to be sure), the MP not being required for SP quote, the romances... are all valid issues that I think most people can agree on.

[sth128]

Two reasons:

1) To minimize possibility of Fox News "Sex Effect 3" segment.

2) To maximize consumer market by not having overtly sexual content. Yes it is still rated M, but if you think only people older than 17 play this game, you are naive.

[comanche warior]

They should have actually it would have taken heat away from the shotty ending.

[Good_Chaos7]

sth128 wrote...

Two reasons:

1) To minimize possibility of Fox News "Sex Effect 3" segment.

2) To maximize consumer market by not having overtly sexual content. Yes it is still rated M, but if you think only people older than 17 play this game, you are naive.

1) F**k Faux News

2)It's still rated M.  People complaining about their kids getting their hands on this, may as well complain about "How did little Johny get his hands on that Magazine..":innocent:  Not to mention ME1 Was NOT Graphic..

Modifié par Good_Chaos7, 17 avril 2012 - 06:00 .

[Tarothe]

sth128 wrote...

2) To maximize consumer market by not having overtly sexual content. Yes it is still rated M, but if you think only people older than 17 play this game, you are naive.

They also watch porn, drink and smoke. And why is the fact that a game for 18 year olds (which is clearly stated on the damn cover) can be played by people who are not supposed to play it,  if they can just as easily get the other things I've mentioned be any reason not to include nudity in that game? The rating is there for a a reason, not our, nor Bioware's fault's that no one gives a damn about it.

Modifié par Tarothe, 17 avril 2012 - 05:31 .

[Tarothe]

Modifié par Tarothe, 17 avril 2012 - 05:30 .

[Alyka]

Good_Chaos7 wrote...

sth128 wrote...

Two reasons:

1) To minimize possibility of Fox News "Sex Effect 3" segment.

2) To maximize consumer market by not having overtly sexual content. Yes it is still rated M, but if you think only people older than 17 play this game, you are naive.

1) F**k Faux News

2)It's still rated M.  People complaining about their kids getting there hands on this, may as well complain about "How did little Johny get his hands on that Magazine.." :innocent: Not to mention ME1 Was NOT Graphic..

1) They complained about the game but then they'll comment on how fabulous an actress was dressed even though her breasts are half hanging out of her dress.Oh, and how great her role was in a movie...where she was topless.
Hypocrites.

2) M stands for "Mmkay", apparently.~
The parent buys the game for the kid just to shut them up so they're not crying for hours on end.Then the parent finds out there is nudity in it aaaand then they try to sue. *puts up an okay sign* ~
Teaching your kid that you will buy them anything just to shut them up and that you can sue even if you didn't read the packaging? Tch! Nice parenting.~

Sorry. That kind of stuff just irritates me.

Modifié par Alyka, 17 avril 2012 - 06:02 .

[Blk_Mage_Ctype]

This used to bother me as well, but frankly I give up and just don't care anymore...

Do I find it extremely odd and unsettling that the majority of my fellow countrymen find scenes of extreme violence that normal human beings would likely never see in real life unless they went to war or were employed in law enforcement over something that practically ever normal human being sees everyday in real life? YES!
Do I find it disappointing that developers won't stand up to big-name companies like Wal-Mart who threaten to ban games with certain content from their shelves? Absolutely!
Do I think that any excessive whining or even simply making a logically accurate argument against the norm will yield any results? No.

Bottom line: It just isn't worth discussing anymore. There are just too many people who're offended by nudity for such content (regardless of how it is portrayed) to be accepted, game developers these days are too afraid to put nudity in their games in fear that it will adversely effect their sales, and it's easy enough to just buy PC Versions of games and install nude mods yourself these days to really give a damn.
That said, I really don't mind the lack of partial to full frontal nudity in Mass Effect, and don't even care enough to bother tracking down and installing a mod for it. In many ways, nudity isn't really necessary for Mass Effect, nor is their any tangible way to implement it so that it actually adds something to the game, so who cares?

[sth128]

Good_Chaos7 wrote...


2)It's still rated M.  People complaining about their kids getting their hands on this, may as well complain about "How did little Johny get his hands on that Magazine..":innocent:  Not to mention ME1 Was NOT Graphic..

My point is that parents are more likely to buy their underage kids ME3 if the label doesn't say "explicit nudity" or "explicit sexual content".

Parents don't care if the game shows decapitation or extreme violence.

[Han Shot First]

A romance scene doesn't necessarily need nudity in order to be either good or 'mature.' In fact there are some games that have nudity that handle it in a very juvenile way, where it is obviously just there to titilate fanboys. In the end it all depends on how it is handled, and you can have good romance scenes either with or without nudity. It all depends on the writing and the work that the artistis do.

As an example, two of the best romance scenes in the series in my opinion were Liara's scene in ME3 and her scene in ME1. One contains nudity, whereas in the other the nudity is only implied. But both scenes were very well done, cinematic, and mature. In fact I'd say Liara's ME3 romance scene was the best of the series, despite the nudity being out of focus. The writing & dialogue is what makes it. The Virmire Survivor's scenes are also very well done in ME3, despite not containing any nudity.

That being said, not all romance scenes in Mass Effect 3 are created equal. Traynor's clothed shower scene was a little bizarre. They probably could have benefited from having that play out similar to Liara's scene. They should have had the characters be nude but with the naughty bits either out of focus like Liara's scene, or outside the frame.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 17 avril 2012 - 06:10 .

[sth128]

Han Shot First wrote...

A romance scene doesn't necessarily need nudity in order to be either good or 'mature.' In fact there are some games that have nudity that handle it in a very juvenile way, where it is obviously just there to titilate fanboys.

I don't think people are talking about explicit nudity since most are happy with the Liara scene(s). There are sequences in this game where implied nudity is required. For example, Traynor in the shower. Either you show her naked in the shower, or you don't show anything at all. Showing her showering in her clothes is exactly what you said "just there to titillate fanboys".

Clearly Bioware is capable of implied nudity as seen in both ME1 and ME3. Therefore the only explanation is that they were extremely lazy. Instead of creating a separate model / texture for nude characters, they simply reuse the underwear texture.

(Or in Ashley's hospital scenes, paint her barbie torso black and pretend it's a hospital gown.)

[Good_Chaos7]

sth128 wrote...

Good_Chaos7 wrote...


2)It's still rated M.  People complaining about their kids getting their hands on this, may as well complain about "How did little Johny get his hands on that Magazine..":innocent:  Not to mention ME1 Was NOT Graphic..

My point is that parents are more likely to buy their underage kids ME3 if the label doesn't say "explicit nudity" or "explicit sexual content".

Parents don't care if the game shows decapitation or extreme violence.

And those are the parents you don't hear from.. Because they either DGAF or a chance that Maybe (& they do exist) their kids are just good & Mature for their age;) But still M 17+ (although I do believe the rating system could get an improvement) Such as Halo series getting a T rating.. Seriously.. how is this M?