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[Phatose]

Traditional Symmetric PvP would be awful indeed.

But there are ways it could work. Two separate battlefields, each with say, 8 objectives to control. The number of objectives you control determines how many mobs spawn on your opponents battlefield. Perhaps with optional side objectives to boost your mobs - complete this hack objective and your opponents will be facing foes with double shields, ect.

And there's always the potential for a Left 4 Dead style asymmetry, where the monster players are fragile, but respawn. There's even ground in the lore for that kind of thing - "Assuming Direct Control"

Actually, a 1v4 "Harbinger Mode" could be pretty interesting.

[Schneidend]

I would be excited for PvP.

Then an Asari Adept would hit me with Stasis.

Then I would never play PvP again.

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

Image the lag issues, so no.

[Eebatsama]

You know what I'd love to see? More varied co-op objectives and missions... imagine a DLC that had groups of players going through SP-quality mission objectives... that would be awesome.

[Daeion]

methodshaolin wrote...

yes we do but some guys just loooove saying nonono...

If I wanted PvP I'd go play a game that was designed around it

[Atomic Space Vixen]

Erosuntzu wrote...

Those who do not want to PvP are the minority

Citation?

[Daeion]

Schneidend wrote...

I would be excited for PvP.

Then an Asari Adept would hit me with Stasis.

Then I would never play PvP again.

pretty much

[methodshaolin]

Daeion wrote...

Schneidend wrote...

I would be excited for PvP.

Then an Asari Adept would hit me with Stasis.

Then I would never play PvP again.

pretty much

and no one will be forcing you to ...

[The_mango55]

How are you going to feel about PVP the first time you get stasis locked by an adept?

EDIT: Read the first couple of posts before making this, looks like others have had the same idea.

Modifié par The_mango55, 17 avril 2012 - 07:57 .

[KayB1991]

Eebatsama wrote...

You know what I'd love to see? More varied co-op objectives and missions... imagine a DLC that had groups of players going through SP-quality mission objectives... that would be awesome.

Now THIS is what mp needs. I will gladly pay for this if I have to

[Erosuntzu]

It can reduce damage against other players in a large percentage add NPC, fighting on each side, reduces stun time between 1 to 2 seconds max in this way to kill someone would not be so easy. why people think they have to die with one shot or a single ability that shows the great imagination of many. the only thing they can say is, stasis, Vanguard charge, OP infiltrators. OMG stop saying the same thing over and over again just say that we are bad in pvp and do not want to be pwned.

[Rapulsion]

I can help.

But if you don't dig that, here.

[Daeion]

methodshaolin wrote...

Daeion wrote...

Schneidend wrote...

I would be excited for PvP.

Then an Asari Adept would hit me with Stasis.

Then I would never play PvP again.

pretty much

and no one will be forcing you to ...

Right, but changes will be made to the game because of PvP that will affect my PvE.  Once again, I will stick with Gears or CoD for my PvP, you know, games that were designed with it in mind.

Modifié par Daeion, 17 avril 2012 - 07:58 .

[Juuna]

No.Just no.

Why not?
- Lag, if you play now you barely notice it unless you have certain weapons equiped but if you play it in pvp it will be frustrating as hell.
- Balance issues, face it balance will always be an issue when you got a ****load of characters.
- Character choices, same like the balance issues, people will go get stuck on using only using 1 or 2 characters because they are OP. It will lose the variaty, fast.
- pvp is just not fun in a game like this. I'd play Halo if I wanna do pvp.

The only people here who want PVP are the ones who play Vanguard and go all Rambo in Silver/Gold matches.

[methodshaolin]

Daeion wrote...

methodshaolin wrote...

Daeion wrote...

Schneidend wrote...

I would be excited for PvP.

Then an Asari Adept would hit me with Stasis.

Then I would never play PvP again.

pretty much

and no one will be forcing you to ...

Right, but changes will be made to the game because of PvP that will affect my PvE.  Once again, I will stick with Gears or CoD for my PvP, you know, games that were designed with it in mind.

the idea is not to change the PvE ... just to add another mode for people who are bored with the current one ... as unbalanced as it would be it'd still be fun to try (it's not gonna happen anyway)

[Daeion]

Erosuntzu wrote...

It can reduce damage against other players in a large percentage add NPC, fighting on each side, reduces stun time between 1 to 2 seconds max in this way to kill someone would not be so easy. why people think they have to die with one shot or a single ability that shows the great imagination of many. the only thing they can say is, stasis, Vanguard charge, OP infiltrators. OMG stop saying the same thing over and over again just say that we are bad in pvp and do not want to be pwned.

Maybe it's not that we are bad but unlike you we see how this will negatively affect the game and how OP some classes will be.  You have classes like the infiltraitor that are designed to 1 shot people.  You take that away from the class and you've pretty much gutted the whole reason for the class to exist.

[Cyonan]

Erosuntzu wrote...

It can reduce damage against other players in a large percentage add NPC, fighting on each side, reduces stun time between 1 to 2 seconds max in this way to kill someone would not be so easy. why people think they have to die with one shot or a single ability that shows the great imagination of many. the only thing they can say is, stasis, Vanguard charge, OP infiltrators. OMG stop saying the same thing over and over again just say that we are bad in pvp and do not want to be pwned.

I keep telling you it's unbalanced because you have yet to answer my question from the first page.

How would you make all 25 possible race/class combinations balanced without sacrificing what those classes are about at their core, or what Mass Effect is at its' core?

[Schneidend]

Rapulsion wrote...

I can help.

But if you don't dig that, here.

Genius.

methodshaolin wrote...

and no one will be forcing you to ... 

So you would seriously be okay with PvP consisting of nothing but Asari Adepts racing to see who can Stasis snipe whom first?

That's what would happen. It would be stupid.

Modifié par Schneidend, 17 avril 2012 - 08:07 .

[Daeion]

methodshaolin wrote...

Daeion wrote...

methodshaolin wrote...

Daeion wrote...

Schneidend wrote...

I would be excited for PvP.

Then an Asari Adept would hit me with Stasis.

Then I would never play PvP again.

pretty much

and no one will be forcing you to ...

Right, but changes will be made to the game because of PvP that will affect my PvE.  Once again, I will stick with Gears or CoD for my PvP, you know, games that were designed with it in mind.

the idea is not to change the PvE ... just to add another mode for people who are bored with the current one ... as unbalanced as it would be it'd still be fun to try (it's not gonna happen anyway)

That same arguement has been made in every game that has had PvP added to it and it never stays true because it's easier to nerf abilities then to add in what if statements and code for different scenarios.  The fun would last for maybe a week and then people would be crying about how OP XYZ class is and that it needs to be nerfed.  I mean FFS, people already cry about classes needing to be nerfed and this is a freaking co-op MP.

[SofieShepard]

No thanks.

[obie191970]

Rapulsion wrote...

I can help.

But if you don't dig that, here.

This made me laugh.

And, No.

[IPraetoriaNI]

Go play CoD kthxbai

[Painis Cupcake]

There is way way WAY too much that needs to be added/adjusted to make PvP possible.

- Maps are too small, snipers will suffer massively
- Powers and weapons need a major balancing. Imagine a krogan sentinel with Claymore X versus you.

If you want a PvP game, play Tribes: Ascend or Combat Arms (I don't recommend it) or Team Fortress 2.

Modifié par Painis Cupcake, 17 avril 2012 - 08:06 .

[LeandroBraz]

Nompire wrote...

We don't need PvP for a multiplayer mode that has been designed specifically to be co-op. What we need is real leaderboards with robust stat tracking so people have something to be proud of and compete against others with instead of just the silly N7 rating.

this, nothing more.



 and don't see the point of medals if there's no statistic screen to know how much you get so far, and compare with your friends. They SHOULD create a statistics screen...