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[ENorman94]

They are artists! They wouldn't dare interact with flthy plebians like us.

[Rudy Lis]

Tony208 wrote...

It's a learning experience for everyone involved so it's a good sign that people from the DA team are checking this out. Gives me some hope for DA3.

So they could knew how to parry our question why this game doesn't kept promises and below the bar set of previous parts too?

[Cadence of the Planes]

ENorman94 wrote...

They are artists! They wouldn't dare interact with flthy plebians like us.

And yet the plebians continue to shed tears, fumbling about aimlessly in frustration and a need for attention

Modifié par Cadence of the Planes, 17 avril 2012 - 09:53 .

[Isichar]

Dridengx wrote...

Well. Last time ME team was here you guys slandered them, threatened them, and trolled them. They left. your fault. Just because they don't post doesn't mean they are not receiving or hearing feedback. Course it could be all PR and damage control. you will never know because you lacked the maturity to respect them and have conversations with them. now you are being ignored by the people who you are whining to want to hear from.

So the fans been treated like whiney children are acting like it? Jeeze funny how that works huh? Lack of respect will only cause the same response.

Ftr i did not flame anyone from the ME team and iv been on these forums since a couple days after the release. Your a fan too and if you think your above what your saying your not because your willing to look at everyone with that same attitude regardless of whether they did flame a bioware employee or not.

You make all fans look bad, yourself included because you group everyone together and judge them based on the worst reactions.

I love people who just blame everything on the fans. No matter what we believe or how we act theres still someone who is disgusted with our actions and blames everything that results from this on the fans. Bioware played a role in our reaction even if unintentionally. Pointing figures at this point does no one any good.

The flip side of what you say is bioware choice to retreat into its PR shell could ulitmately hurt them and i could say they will have no one to blame but themselves for it.

Modifié par Isichar, 17 avril 2012 - 09:58 .

[Tony208]

Rudy Lis wrote...

Tony208 wrote...

It's a learning experience for everyone involved so it's a good sign that people from the DA team are checking this out. Gives me some hope for DA3.

So they could knew how to parry our question why this game doesn't kept promises and below the bar set of previous parts too?

I was thinking more along the lines of certain design choices that wouldn't go over well

[XTR3M3]

naw, I have to agree with others that think they stay away due to how they are treated when they are here. Seriously, if all of you that want them here were honest, could YOU put up with someone coming into your house and following you room to room constantly telling you how crappy you are? and sometimes even going over the line? I sure couldn't/wouldn't. They would get a ridge hand right across the throat.

I applaud the moderators for having extremely thick skin.

[devSin]

Apparently the team (at least some of them) do occasionally check the forums, but they don't use them for interaction. They can have more personal discussions (Sylvia, one of the writers, has talked a bit about the work she did, and Dusty has talked briefly about designing the Normandy levels; Rob often appears out of nowhere if you talk about the audio loud enough), but they've so far not gotten involved in the ongoing controversy over the ending.

Mike Gamble can apparently be summoned, so you know they are aware of what is being said on the forums, even if they're not here actively engaging in the discussions. I think even the leads do sometimes browse, so it's not simply a case of the community managers compiling a list of neutral-phrased complaints and handing them to the developers.

[Nobrandminda]

 Allan is just here talking as a fellow fan who happens to work with the people who made the game.

I am slightly annoyed that the "BIOWARE" label gets put on every thread he posts in.

"Oh boy, a Bioware employee posted.  Maybe it'll be an official confirmation about something.  Oh... no... it's just Allan Schumacher again."

/disappointed 

[Rudy Lis]

Tony208 wrote...

I was thinking more along the lines of certain design choices that wouldn't go over well

Evil casper? Three tastes of cyanide? Space magic? Sorry, Thedas magic.

[Dendio1]

OP your title makes it seem as if you are upset that the DA mod is posting here. You should change it.

[The Protheans]

The DA guys don't want to make a bad ending where nothing makes sense.

[Isichar]

Nobrandminda wrote...

 Allan is just here talking as a fellow fan who happens to work with the people who made the game.

I am slightly annoyed that the "BIOWARE" label gets put on every thread he posts in.

"Oh boy, a Bioware employee posted.  Maybe it'll be an official confirmation about something.  Oh... no... it's just Allan Schumacher again."

/disappointed 

Allan could post here as a non-bioware employee if he wanted to I think. Im sure he and the other mods know that having a bioware label on your name effects the way people talk to you (for good or bad) which is why i cant help but wonder if it is just a PR tactic, but i can only speculate. Whats important is that he responds in a personal and yet respectful manner, so overall i dont got any issues with him posting (quite the opposite) though having that bioware tag can do alot to influence the conversation.

[Isichar]

Dendio1 wrote...

OP your title makes it seem as if you are upset that the DA mod is posting here. You should change it.

Ill consider that, I dont want people to get the impression I have an issue with the mods here, thats far from the case, the entire point of this thread is to show that i can argue they treat us better then the rest of bioware has combined.



edit: Im just gonna make it clear in the first line that this is not meant to rage against the mods in any way shape or form, and hope that people understand that.

Modifié par Isichar, 17 avril 2012 - 10:09 .

[jstme]

Because their superiors told them not to. Even if they wanted to post,which is a big question in itself. That easy.
And that DA guy is a ME fan, so he posts here as a non-involved representative of Bioware. I am pretty sure that it is allowed for PR ,but it is healthy type of PR because we speak with Bioware devs and can see that they are people too thus lowering the levels of hostility.

[ArchDuck]

Bother me more then the total silence of before? No.
Make me like the DA mods more? Yes.

[Isichar]

jstme wrote...

Because their superiors told them not to. Even if they wanted to post,which is a big question in itself. That easy.
And that DA guy is a ME fan, so he posts here as a non-involved representative of Bioware. I am pretty sure that it is allowed for PR ,but it is healthy type of PR because we speak with Bioware devs and can see that they are people too thus lowering the levels of hostility.

I think your right on all points actually. Its done alot for me to improve my view on bioware even if it was just a PR tactic and which is why I crave real contact with the actual ME team. I look at the mods responses and I see people who normally flame become less...hostile, thats good isnt it?

I dont want bioware employees here to get flamed or told why they're game sucks, i want them here so they can close the gap that exist between the fans and bioware right now. I know realisticly this will not happen, but I still wanted to throw it out there as a possibility because to me this would do alot to improve my view of them right now.

I sincerly wish to see flaming stop, and i know it most likely wont. Im not blind to why they wouldnt want to be here.

[Zuka999]

Probably to avoid hurting their feelings. Having to face the fact that their magnum opus is being trashed non-stop has to hurt a lot. I get that, too, but they can't just sweep it under the rug and ignore us. They put themselves in this situation, they need to come on here and actually talk to us for once. My money doesn't care about their feelings as much as I do, let me tell you.

[Darth Spike]

I think the reason is because they can talk to us calmly. The ME people are too afraid of getting flamed so the DA people have to answer the questions for them. A good majority of us don't want to flame them. We just want answers and not PR bullcrap.

[wantedman dan]

Isichar wrote...

Plus I could be completely wrong in saying this, but I do think most the flamers would calm down alot quicker then you may think. Anyone who got too out of hand should be banned, bioware does not need to take abuse, but if they cant stand criticism then why work in this industry to begin with? Im not here because I want to take my rage out on bioware, im here to discuss mass effect.

My point exactly. People vent; it's a natural reaction to something taken personally inflammatory. They'll continue to do so until a) they get tired of it, move on, and never forgive; or they don't have a reason to anymore, a la forgiving the admitted mistake.

[Zulmoka531]

AresXX7 wrote...

eddieoctane wrote...

*snip*

You think EA will let them not make a terrible game at this point? Any company willing to make a title out of the Crack Baby Athletic Association has got to be pure evil.

???

Ok, I have to admit this flew right over my head.

South Park episode. Season 15, episode 5. Matt and Trey take some heavy shots at EA's business practices.

[Reptilian Rob]

Seems like a good move to be honest, the ME team would just be flamed to hell and back.

[leapingmonkeys]

Possibly because the flap over ME3 has overwhelmed the ME mods and they are pulling in whatever spare people they can lay hands on to cope with the shear volume of traffic here?

[Isichar]

Alot of people have stated they would just be flamed. Which is not entirely wrong... infact its true. Talking with the mods in these forums may just have spoiled me into thinking that people are capable of acting mature when they are treated like it.

I still stand by what i said in my OP but I also wanna state that i dont think those who disagree I am wrong by any means, infact they are probably right in this matter that it would result in alot of flaming which is not what I want. Still cant blame me from wishing it was possible to have direct contact with biowares ME team.