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April 17 Multiplayer Balance Changes Posted


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#101
Amftron

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Atheosis wrote...

Amftron wrote...

Malkeor wrote...

cuzIMgood wrote...

Now we just need ultralight materials to be fixed.


Yeah curiously, I'm wondering if it's just a difficult thing to fix? But I hope they get it figured out soon.



I'm guessing it's why there's an overall weight reduction for SMGs... maybe it was just easier to fix that way.

/speculating


Except that they also reduced the weight of the one SMG it actually works on, so I don't think so.


Hence speculating.... either way, i'm not fussed.  SMGs got a buff.  I like that.

#102
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Nice changes. Like what has been done to the Paladin too, gives it a distinguished niche, it is no longer just a heavy carnifex. Surprised at the Hornet buff though.

Decoy certainly needed the nerf.

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Zenny Merc wrote...

Wow, you guys really hate people with Paladin's don't you?


That's what I was thinking, now it's pretty much as heavy as a sniper rifle, and only gets 3 shots like one as well. Probably best to shelve it all together for a Carnifex at this point, don't see it as worthwhile anymore.


I realize the weight was a typo now, so that's good. Not happy about the 3 shots thing, 4 was already bad enough, now it's jkust a glorified Valiant. meh maybe i'll keep it, we'll see, Carnifex's extra rounds might still make it better.

Modifié par Brettic, 17 avril 2012 - 10:29 .


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Lexa_D

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Decoy, Combat Drone, Sentry Turret, and Geth Turret Powers
- Decreased the maximum number of enemies that will target them at the same time.


The deathtoll at FBWGG has just skyrocketed.

Maria Caliban wrote...

suprarj wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

There was never a post here. Anyone making reference to a post that was once here is obviously trying to trick you.


you can't change the past no matter how hard you try to indoctrinate us.  we'll never forget that you don't know how to read dates.

We've always been at war with Eastasia.

This post, miss, is the second best (after OP) in this thread.

#105
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Wow. Everything's been powered up. Jeez.

I got a good reason to check out the Arc Pistol now.

#106
Cybernetix646

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Wow, my turian sentinel will be scary with the new super hornet. Also, a buff to the geth super soaker? Does this mean it will actually kill things now?

#107
Apl_Juice

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Hornet and Revenant buffs??

:D

My Turian Soldier loves you very much.

#108
Firmijn

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Awesome new balances. thanks!

#109
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The right items got buffed, but they are totally meaningless buffs. Automatic weapons need like a 100 percent damage buff to be worthwhile, right now it's just ridiculous how 1 biotic explosion does as much damage as like 600 rounds from a Revenant X.

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Well, hope there will be less "Oh we have a SE, turn off your skill and brain and just shoot things" now.

Modifié par Chromatix, 17 avril 2012 - 10:26 .


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Cybernetix646 wrote...

Wow, my turian sentinel will be scary with the new super hornet. Also, a buff to the geth super soaker? Does this mean it will actually kill things now?


It already did on a Geth Engineer.  

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Hartmann262 wrote...

The right items got buffed, but they are totally meaningless buffs. Automatic weapons need like a 100 percent damage buff to be worthwhile, right now it's just ridiculous how 1 biotic explosion does as much damage as like 600 rounds from a Revenant X.


Hyberbole of epic propotions here.  I salute you. ;)

#113
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Atheosis wrote...

Yes we all saw it, and most of us are happy about it.  Decoy was stupid versus Geth and we all know it.  Only the habitual farmers will be bothered by this.

Farmers aren't going to be bothered by this.

#114
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Malkeor wrote...

Yeah curiously, I'm wondering if it's just a difficult thing to fix? But I hope they get it figured out soon.


It requires a patch.
It is already fixed with the Geth SMG but fixes for the rest of the SMGs are comming with the next patch.

There is a bunch of other stuff going into that patch, validating on all different plattforms and alot of testing before the patch can go live.
So we have to wait for that, but it is comming.

#115
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I'm a big fan on these changes. Seems like they made some smart choices. I won't know for sure until I get home to try them out, but I'm optimistic. Good work, folks.

I would think it would be nice to know exactly how many enemies Decoy can pull now. I don't care too much, since I rarely use my SE and I'm sure it won't affect my QE in any meaningful way, but I'd like to see the specifics. Maybe I'll just have to test on Bronze.

#116
vasht

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all autos got buffed woohoo.

will it be enough though.

waits for updated MM dps calcs

#117
Apl_Juice

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Wow, I didn't notice the Decoy nerf and Turret Buff.

Those are awesome too

#118
a ViciousFerret

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I still think the Locust needs to be buffed more. It is supposed to be a formidable weapon, the gun that killed two presidents and ME2 DLC item.

The Wraith also needs a damage boost to be worthwhile using over the other shotguns, especially considering it's an N7 weapon.

Anyway... What is everyone's opinions on Carnifex vs Paladin now?

I have a Paladin IV and a Carnifex II and now I don't know which one to use.

#119
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Maria Caliban wrote...

Atheosis wrote...

Yes we all saw it, and most of us are happy about it.  Decoy was stupid versus Geth and we all know it.  Only the habitual farmers will be bothered by this.

Farmers aren't going to be bothered by this.


will be some epic wipes tonight though from groups that don't read forums.  kind of funny. 

#120
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Maria Caliban wrote...

Atheosis wrote...

Yes we all saw it, and most of us are happy about it.  Decoy was stupid versus Geth and we all know it.  Only the habitual farmers will be bothered by this.

Farmers aren't going to be bothered by this.


Some will be.  Particularly the ones that lack the skill to beat Gold otherwise.  Geth on White will still be farmable, but it won't be quite as easy as it was.   

#121
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ARs and SMGs buffed, it's good but I think they're still underwhelming, which is bad.
Decoy is nerfed, it's bad, but still overpowered, which is good.

#122
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Atheosis wrote...

Cybernetix646 wrote...

Wow, my turian sentinel will be scary with the new super hornet. Also, a buff to the geth super soaker? Does this mean it will actually kill things now?


It already did on a Geth Engineer.  


Not really, a Gengineer only gets a 10% bonus to Geth weaponry. Even with today's buff, it's still pretty weak on gold, although certainly more viable on silver and bronze.

#123
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Gabigool wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Atheosis wrote...

Yes we all saw it, and most of us are happy about it.  Decoy was stupid versus Geth and we all know it.  Only the habitual farmers will be bothered by this.

Farmers aren't going to be bothered by this.


will be some epic wipes tonight though from groups that don't read forums.  kind of funny. 

So true.

#124
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Maria Caliban wrote...

Atheosis wrote...

Yes we all saw it, and most of us are happy about it.  Decoy was stupid versus Geth and we all know it.  Only the habitual farmers will be bothered by this.

Farmers aren't going to be bothered by this.


+1

I've done my share of farming and many times there are zero decoy spammers in the mix. FBW/G/G will still be just as simple minded as ever.

#125
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BraveLToaster wrote...

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Did we have exact numbers of how many enemies Decoy affected in the first place?


It certainly seemed like a near unlimited amount would attack it.


Yeah it did seem that way.  But I only really noticed in PUG's where we couldn't kill fast enough.  Happy with the change regardless.