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[txmn1016]

Kairi Hawke wrote...

nope didnt record it and like i said im not playing it for awhile im taking a well deserved break and for the times when edi survived the first time i took her everytime on missions and talked with her at every oppertunity and the second time same with the talking part but took on less missions but for both times took her on final push and if it helps i had dlc from ashes installed and have always done it when i played. might help might not but i played full paragon.

Hey thanks for responding

Can I ask one more thing?  Did you avoid talking to other squadmates?  Do you felt like you talked to EDI more than the others? 

I'm thinking that taking EDI on the final push might be the thing to make it happen, but I want to be sure.  Thanks again.

[sfam]

If Bioware, in its attempts to fix this, comes out and says, "Well the star child is really just the new version of Baghdad Bob - he's an incessant liar." - really they are changing the ending, not explaining it. And if so, their PR REALLY should be taking credit for this, as this is what everyone wants.

If EDI and the Geth can live, than really, most everyone would take the "Kill the Reaper" path (and we should be able to, as the Geth/Quarian story was already completed wonderfully). This should have been an option from the get-go.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

EDI can survive the destroy ending until her battery backup on the Normandy runs out. Once that's gone she's toast. Her coding is based on Reaper tech, but not reaper tech. She's software, not hardware. She exists in the AI Core. The main power source of the AI Core is the Normandy's drive core, but that's gone in the last scene. Basically this goes for the Control ending too. The Synthesis ending? She can survive that and have iChildren with Joker.

[txmn1016]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

The only twitter comment people can drag up is the Merizan one, but it's just her theorising she admits. By the looks of it you'd be hard pressed to think she's even played the game.

I know what you mean.  I know she means well, but I can't help thinking that her commenting on aspects of gameplay and story does more harm than good. 

[Clayless]

Kairi Hawke wrote...

nope didnt record it and like i said im not playing it for awhile im taking a well deserved break and for the times when edi survived the first time i took her everytime on missions and talked with her at every oppertunity and the second time same with the talking part but took on less missions but for both times took her on final push and if it helps i had dlc from ashes installed and have always done it when i played. might help might not but i played full paragon.

Unfortunately without proof this can be dismissed.

[Shallyah]

The godchild also said Shepard would die. I'll do the smart thing and wait for Extended Cut DLC.

Besides, EDI isn't a synthetic, she's software. Only Eva's body is synthetic, she might lose that.

By saying that EDI dies you're implying that every hard drive containing any kind of data in the Galaxy would be also wiped clean.

Modifié par Shallyah, 20 avril 2012 - 07:15 .

[AtlasMickey]

xefiroEA wrote...

I agree that Destroy kills her.

I checked this personally. EDI was one of the members I used most, and I had her with me on the final mission. I got the best ending, saw my Shep breathe, but on the planet only Liara (my LI and the squad member I used most) and Javik (who I only used for Thessia) walked out of the Normandy.

So I choose Control.

This describes me experience word-for-word. I would choose Control over Destory any day, but Synthesis ueber alles.

[Kairi Hawke]

like i said dosent bother me if you dismiss it i know the truth cause edi did survive with me. nobody can take that away from me but i understand like i said i didnt record and i talked to her after every side and critical mission but i done that with everyone else sometimes they just said the same thing but still talked to them anyway. the only thing that was different was the order i talked to my crew. what i did was start from vega and work my way up the ship was how i started initially but sometimes i would start at joker and start working my way from cic and going down if that makes sense.

[txmn1016]

Kairi Hawke wrote...

like i said dosent bother me if you dismiss it i know the truth cause edi did survive with me. nobody can take that away from me but i understand like i said i didnt record and i talked to her after every side and critical mission but i done that with everyone else sometimes they just said the same thing but still talked to them anyway. the only thing that was different was the order i talked to my crew. what i did was start from vega and work my way up the ship was how i started initially but sometimes i would start at joker and start working my way from cic and going down if that makes sense.

Ok thanks.  That's pretty much what I do too, so it seems I haven't totally fraked up my playthrough just yet.  It also reaffirms my suspicion that taking her on the final push is what does it.

[razor150]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

Kairi Hawke wrote...

nope didnt record it and like i said im not playing it for awhile im taking a well deserved break and for the times when edi survived the first time i took her everytime on missions and talked with her at every oppertunity and the second time same with the talking part but took on less missions but for both times took her on final push and if it helps i had dlc from ashes installed and have always done it when i played. might help might not but i played full paragon.

Unfortunately without proof this can be dismissed.

You're just being pig headed. You can convict someone on hearsay in a court of law, and there is enough hearsay to prove EDI can survive the Destroy Ending. The reason nobody has a video of EDI walking out to prove it is beause it is impractical. To prove it without a doubt you have to film it from the moment you choose Destroy till the moment EDI walks out. It is also quite obvious nobody knows why exactly non LI crewmates walk out, there is speculation but nobody seems agreed upon it. Nobody is going to play the game over and over again to try and get EDI to walk out just because you demain video proof.

Have you seen a video of EDI exiting the Normandy when Control was chosen? I haven't, so it must mean she didn't survive Control.

Modifié par razor150, 20 avril 2012 - 07:35 .

[Clayless]

razor150 wrote...

You're just being pig headed. You can convict someone on hearsay in a court of law, and there is enough hearsay to prove EDI can survive the Destroy Ending. The reason nobody has a video of EDI walking out to prove it is beause it is impractical. To prove it without a doubt you have to film it from the moment you choose Destroy till the moment EDI walks out. It is also quite obvious nobody knows why exactly non LI crewmates walk out, there is speculation but nobody seems agreed upon it. Nobody is going to play the game over and over again to try and get EDI to walk out just because you demain video proof.

I'm pretty sure you can't convict someone on hearsay in a court of law, otherwise you'd quite easily be able to frame innocent people if there's a group of you.

Have you seen a video of EDI exiting the Normandy when Control was chosen? I haven't, so it must mean she didn't survive Control.

Yes actually I have.

Modifié par Our_Last_Scene, 20 avril 2012 - 07:43 .

[Elcor Pride]

EDI and the Geth survived all the Destroy option does is kill the reapers and the mass relays.

[razor150]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

razor150 wrote...

You're just being pig headed. You can convict someone on hearsay in a court of law, and there is enough hearsay to prove EDI can survive the Destroy Ending. The reason nobody has a video of EDI walking out to prove it is beause it is impractical. To prove it without a doubt you have to film it from the moment you choose Destroy till the moment EDI walks out. It is also quite obvious nobody knows why exactly non LI crewmates walk out, there is speculation but nobody seems agreed upon it. Nobody is going to play the game over and over again to try and get EDI to walk out just because you demain video proof.

I'm pretty sure you can't convict someone on hearsay in a court of law, otherwise you'd quite easily be able to frame innocent people if there's a group of you.

Have you seen a video of EDI exiting the Normandy when Control was chosen? I haven't, so it must mean she didn't survive Control.

Yes actually I have.

It actually happens quite a bit, maybe not from 1 person, but more than 1 can. Part of the problem with this thread is you are dismissing people who in the legal sense would be considered eye witnesses as hearsay.

You can't go to Youtube and do a search and specifically narrow it down to find proof EDI survives control. If you can't provide a link it must also be hearsay. Although that really isn't the point, just turning your arguement against you. 

[Laurencio]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

I've heard, and by this stage I'm pressuming so have you, that EDI can survive the Destroy ending, but searches of Youtube keep on turning up blanks. That's strange for something that should be quite big, as it straight up shows the Catalyst wasn't accurate.

I've come to the realisation that she can't actually survive it, it's just hearsay with no proof. If someone can prove she does, by posting a video, please do I REALLY want to see it and I will edit the thread accordingly, but until then:

No don't believe the rumours, she can't survive.

If EDI's AI core on the Normandy isn't fried she does survive. And considering her AI core isn't really "synthetic life" per say, it could survive?

[Spectre Impersonator]

I don't know if Jessica Merizan understood the question but she confirmed that EDI surviving Destroy was not a bug because she's not based on Reaper tech, despite the character herself saying that she's based on Reaper tech.

[Clayless]

razor150 wrote...

It actually happens quite a bit, maybe not from 1 person, but more than 1 can. Part of the problem with this thread is you are dismissing people who in the legal sense would be considered eye witnesses as hearsay.

You can't go to Youtube and do a search and specifically narrow it down to find proof EDI survives control. If you can't provide a link it must also be hearsay. Although that really isn't the point, just turning your arguement against you. 

There needs to be proof even in court. A bunch of people saying they "totally saw Jeff kill that guy", and Jeff's only defense being he was asleep in bed, wont result in a guilty verdict for Jeff. You could quite literally kill someone then get 10 of your mates to frame the guy who doesn't have a good alibi if that were the case.

And sure I can.

www.youtube.com/watch

[Clayless]

JohnShepard12 wrote...

I don't know if Jessica Merizan understood the question but she confirmed that EDI surviving Destroy was not a bug because she's not based on Reaper tech, despite the character herself saying that she's based on Reaper tech.

Check out page 3 of the thread.

I think I might update the OP to include it actually.

Modifié par Our_Last_Scene, 20 avril 2012 - 08:01 .

[DJBare]

I think I might have a plan for anyone willing to give it a try, Our_Last_Scene just showed this video, the one thing that stood out to me was the other person that got off the ship, Trayner, also it's a femshep, perhaps someone could try the same setup with the destroy ending, it's a bit of a stretch but maybe concentrate on Trayner and her relationship with EDI.

Modifié par DJBare, 20 avril 2012 - 08:07 .

[sfam]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

Kairi Hawke wrote...

nope didnt record it and like i said im not playing it for awhile im taking a well deserved break and for the times when edi survived the first time i took her everytime on missions and talked with her at every oppertunity and the second time same with the talking part but took on less missions but for both times took her on final push and if it helps i had dlc from ashes installed and have always done it when i played. might help might not but i played full paragon.

Unfortunately without proof this can be dismissed.

I'm dismissing this.  Others would have encountered it as well.

[DJBare]

Kairi Hawke wrote...

just finished 5th playthrough of mass effect 3 and in two of them edi survived destroy ending and so you know all five times i did destroy. Unless its a bug or something she did survive atleast for me. the other three times different squad members came out of the normandy, only one i didnt see was vega. i dont really care if you want to call me a liar but she survived for me and like i said might be a bug anyway im done with mass effect 3 for now, 5 times is enough and now onto the witcher 2.

Those two will be in your save file if you got the autosave after the laser hits Shepard.

[txmn1016]

DJBare wrote...

I think I might have a plan for anyone willing to give it a try, Our_Last_Scene just showed this video, the one thing that stood out to me was the other person that got off the ship, Trayner, also it's a femshep, perhaps someone could try the same setup with the destroy ending, it's a bit of a stretch but maybe concentrate on Trayner and her relationship with EDI.

Lol.  I'm not romancing Traynor just for this.  No matter how cute she is.

[DJBare]

txmn1016 wrote...
Lol.  I'm not romancing Traynor just for this.  No matter how cute she is.

Not suggesting you romance Trayner, though it may have an affect, the important thing is the relationship between EDI and Traynor, there is dialogue initiated by Shepard where EDI and Traynor compliment each other.

[xefiroEA]

Laurencio wrote...

If EDI's AI core on the Normandy isn't fried she does survive. And considering her AI core isn't really "synthetic life" per say, it could survive?

Why do you think the AI Core isn't synthetic life? Just because it isn't shaped like a humanoid? Just as the geth are not the mobile platforms they use but the collection of programs inside them, so is EDI not the particular shape she has but the intelligence driving it. EDI is one lifeform with two bodies, where the Geth are many lifeforms in a single body.

That said, EDI's primary body is the Normandy, which houses most of her mind. A bit of her lives inside the Eva body, but losing that would be more like losing a hand while losing the core would be like losing her head.

[txmn1016]

DJBare wrote...

txmn1016 wrote...
Lol.  I'm not romancing Traynor just for this.  No matter how cute she is.

Not suggesting you romance Trayner, though it may have an affect, the important thing is the relationship between EDI and Traynor, there is dialogue initiated by Shepard where EDI and Traynor compliment each other.

...when? 

[Laurencio]

txmn1016 wrote...

DJBare wrote...

txmn1016 wrote...
Lol.  I'm not romancing Traynor just for this.  No matter how cute she is.

Not suggesting you romance Trayner, though it may have an affect, the important thing is the relationship between EDI and Traynor, there is dialogue initiated by Shepard where EDI and Traynor compliment each other.

...when? 

At the very start of the game?

"Communication Officer Trayner has been very helpful in running and maintaining the Normandy's system commander, I would like her to stay"
*something about trayner thinking she's a VI, how joker fooled her and how her being an AI was obvious*
"I'm sorry for telling you that you had a very.... nice voice.. *blush*"

xefiroEA wrote...

Laurencio wrote...

If
EDI's AI core on the Normandy isn't fried she does survive. And
considering her AI core isn't really "synthetic life" per say, it could
survive?

Why do you think the AI Core isn't
synthetic life? Just because it isn't shaped like a humanoid? Just as
the geth are not the mobile platforms they use but the collection of
programs inside them, so is EDI not the particular shape she has but the
intelligence driving it. EDI is one lifeform with two bodies, where the
Geth are many lifeforms in a single body.

That said, EDI's
primary body is the Normandy, which houses most of her mind. A bit of
her lives inside the Eva body, but losing that would be more like losing
a hand while losing the core would be like losing her head.

I don't know. I assumed the AI Core was somewhat different?

She does say it's only a fraction of her in the Eva platform, and that most of her systems is on the ship. If I'm not mistaken I believe she mentions that even if Eva dies she would remain unchanged.

Modifié par Laurencio, 20 avril 2012 - 08:26 .