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[Taboo]

She isn't show exiting the Normandy in the Destroy ending. Yes we have no proof.

Patrick Weekes has spoken rather candidly that he and the other writers came to a consensus that she can.

You want me to prove something I can't but that you know isn't true?

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 05 mai 2012 - 03:13 .

[Clayless]

Taboo-XX wrote...

She isn't show exiting the Normandy in the Destroy ending. Yes we have no proof.

Patrick Weekes has spoken rather candidly that he and the other writers came to a consensus that she can.

You want me to prove something I can't but that you know isn't true?

No he never.

[balance5050]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

She isn't show exiting the Normandy in the Destroy ending. Yes we have no proof.

Patrick Weekes has spoken rather candidly that he and the other writers came to a consensus that she can.

You want me to prove something I can't but that you know isn't true?

No he never.

He does in this unnoficial interview, it is heavily paraphrased though so take with a grain of salt.

http://social.biowar.../index/11154234 

[Taboo]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

She isn't show exiting the Normandy in the Destroy ending. Yes we have no proof.

Patrick Weekes has spoken rather candidly that he and the other writers came to a consensus that she can.

You want me to prove something I can't but that you know isn't true?

No he never.

You.........you missed this?

Are......are you serious?

Oh God............

DO I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU.

[Clayless]

balance5050 wrote...

Our_Last_Scene wrote...


No he never.

He does in this unnoficial interview, it is heavily paraphrased though so take with a grain of salt.

http://social.biowar.../index/11154234 

Already been covered (it's mentioned in the OP) but here's what the unofficial interview says:

-Why can EDI survive the Destroy ending?

We argued a lot about this, I said that she was made of Reapertech and should therefore be destroyed, but (unclear, don't remember - wish I'd been able to ask a followup as his response doesn't make much sense)

And using that vague piece of information you assume he went on to say why EDI can survive? Here's what I think he said:

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

Of course but look at it like this:

-Why can EDI survive the Destroy ending?

We argued a lot about this, I said that she was made of Reapertech and should therefore be destroyed, but (X argued that she wasn't fully a Reaper so therefore shouldn't be destroyed. After a lot of debate we finally settled on the fact that she shouldn't be able to survive the destory ending, because ultimately she was an AI and even had Reaper tech in her like the Geth and Reapers).

That is a possible outcome of that conversation. Everything in the game actually points to that being the outcome, as there is no proof that EDI can survive.

Hearsay like that can be misinturpreted, until there is actual evidence of her surviving it's clear that she dies in the destroy ending.

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

Yeah the fan asks that question, Patrick says the developers argued about it, then he begins to say his argument he made, then the fan mentions they don't remember the rest of it, which is important because the rest of it is most likely about what the other developers argued.

You could say, by using that piece of incomplete information, that they went on to say "Yes, EDI will survive" but that would be your only evidence. You could also say that they went on to say "No, EDI can't survive" and you would have evidence you back you up.

For example you're making the claim that they eventually came to the conclusion that EDI can survive, therefore EDI survives. You would then have nothing else to back this up.

I claim that they eventually came to the conclusion that EDI dies, and I do have evidence to back me up, as every video on the destroy ending shows her not surviving. There are even people that claim she can survive, but there are no videos showing this.

This is what this thread is about, putting an end to rumours and hearsay and using proof to back up the claim that EDI dies.

As you can see I just quoted from earlier in the thread.

Modifié par Our_Last_Scene, 05 mai 2012 - 04:06 .

[Taboo]

This argument is fallacious...........

That means it has no basis until we see the EC...........

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 05 mai 2012 - 04:06 .

[balance5050]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Our_Last_Scene wrote...


No he never.

He does in this unnoficial interview, it is heavily paraphrased though so take with a grain of salt.

http://social.biowar.../index/11154234 

Already been covered (it's mentioned in the OP) but here's what the unofficial interview says:

-Why can EDI survive the Destroy ending?

We argued a lot about this, I said that she was made of Reapertech and should therefore be destroyed, but (unclear, don't remember - wish I'd been able to ask a followup as his response doesn't make much sense)

And using that vague piece of information you assume he went on to say why EDI can survive? Here's what I think he said:

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

Of course but look at it like this:

-Why can EDI survive the Destroy ending?

We argued a lot about this, I said that she was made of Reapertech and should therefore be destroyed, but (X argued that she wasn't fully a Reaper so therefore shouldn't be destroyed. After a lot of debate we finally settled on the fact that she shouldn't be able to survive the destory ending, because ultimately she was an AI and even had Reaper tech in her like the Geth and Reapers).

That is a possible outcome of that conversation. Everything in the game actually points to that being the outcome, as there is no proof that EDI can survive.

Hearsay like that can be misinturpreted, until there is actual evidence of her surviving it's clear that she dies in the destroy ending.

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

Yeah the fan asks that question, Patrick says the developers argued about it, then he begins to say his argument he made, then the fan mentions they don't remember the rest of it, which is important because the rest of it is most likely about what the other developers argued.

You could say, by using that piece of incomplete information, that they went on to say "Yes, EDI will survive" but that would be your only evidence. You could also say that they went on to say "No, EDI can't survive" and you would have evidence you back you up.

For example you're making the claim that they eventually came to the conclusion that EDI can survive, therefore EDI survives. You would then have nothing else to back this up.

I claim that they eventually came to the conclusion that EDI dies, and I do have evidence to back me up, as every video on the destroy ending shows her not surviving. There are even people that claim she can survive, but there are no videos showing this.

This is what this thread is about, putting an end to rumours and hearsay and using proof to back up the claim that EDI dies.

As you can see I just quoted from earlier in the thread.

I personally think the whole interview is bunk.

[Clayless]

Taboo-XX wrote...

This argument is fallacious...........

That means it has no basis until we see the EC...........

No, as you can prove EDI walks out of the Normandy in the destroy ending right now, without the EC.

[Taboo]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

This argument is fallacious...........

That means it has no basis until we see the EC...........

No, as you can prove EDI walks out of the Normandy in the destroy ending right now, without the EC.

We don't have much of anything.

What do you want?

[OH-UP-THIS!]

EDI won't survive for long anyways, anywhere, simply because the powercells on the Normandy, will eventualy fail.

[acecards14]

 i think that even a video of youtube showed EDI surviving the red ending it wouldn't prove nothing, people could just edit the part she goes out of  the normandy's remains from the control ending and substitute with the same scene with whoever came out on the destroy....i'm kinda surprised no one did this yet

i think that a fairly time consumming way of proving or desproving it is making a playtrough with no interaction with squadmades not named EDI+cortez,traynor,forget javik in eden prime if you have the dlc,take her in all the missions as soon as she's available with a different squaddie everytime,complete that series of talks that ends up with her and joker hooking up and last but not least a  4000+ EMS :happy: save near the end,choose control,load game,choose destroy... 4 possible scenarios may happen


1.she doesn't appear in any of the 2 endings: you disproved that the theory that of how much you talk with a squaddie influences the fact that he appears in the jungle planet...other than that you prove or disprove nothing

2.she only appears in destroy:well you did the same thing than one + you got really lucky and proves that EDI survives the Red beam of shyntetic death

3.she only appears in control:you proved the OP right...yay?

4.she appears in both: you prove she survives 

now i'm too lazy and don't care enough about EDI to go through mass effect 3(and especcialy the endings) again...but if you care a suggest you do it 

and sorry for my very bad english,it' been while since my last wall of english text 

Modifié par acecards14, 05 mai 2012 - 04:49 .

[Domino 44G]

I think it's left to the player to decide whether Edi or the Geth die. Say what you will about the catalysts comments but Shepards survival in the the destroy ending leaves room for Individual interpretation. What about the geth that uploaded to the quarian suits? Also, they don't show Jack and her students in the destroy ending slide show so are they dead because of their implants. Does that make them synthetic? To that end, what about Quarians, they're implanted more so the biotics? And if that's the case then isn't Shepard doomed without any reprieve? Yet he draws breath in the end. I know, crap, crap, crap but what I'm trying to say is if you want them to survive then there's plenty of room for individual interpretation. It's your Shepard and your play through. So someone with too much time on there hands says "NO! THEY ALL DIE!" who made them the ME3 police. Ignore them and move on. Your game, not theirs. Your interpretation, not theirs. Even if you want the Indoctrination to be your truth then who is anyone to tell you otherwise. I think that would be a stretch but it's your game. Wasn't that the whole point about Mass Effect in the first place?