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[Icinix]

ShepardTheHopeful wrote...

Casey Hudson: Shut up and speculate that's why.

Casey Hudson and Mac Walters: We really wanted an ending that would bring up a lot of discussion, probably have people throw stones at our offices, probably alienate our fan base. We really wanted to crush years of hopes and dreams of our players. We're so happy with our ending, we want to immortalise is as Art. You'll be able to see screenshots and recordings of the Star Child in the MoMA come July. As for us, well we're being reassigned to the next Medal of Honour games and everyone else who worked on ME3 is being made redundant. All in the name of Artistic Integrity see.


In all seriousness though - I'm yet to see an EDI survive ending too, tried a few times with her and romance as squad members and never got it. So beats the heck out ofme if she can survive or not.

[Clayless]

idunhavaname wrote...

Merrizen and Weekes said she can survive.

That has already been covered in this thread, if you just read through the 5 pages you'll see:

She confirmed that everything she said is just speculation from her on her twitter

and

Weekes never stated that, he only stated that the developers argued on whether or not EDI should survive, but crucially the conclusion of that argument is not known.

Modifié par Our_Last_Scene, 18 avril 2012 - 03:54 .

[hexediter]

There is a hidden relationship score for every squadmate that ends up determining who walks out of the normandy at the end. Love interests obviously come first, this same score is also used to make other checks (like will kaiden/Ash come back to the normandy, will you have to shoot them ect.) If you want Edi to walk out with your LI then only talk to your LI and EDI on the ship so as to garuntee that EDI has a higher score then any of your other squadies. If you keep talking to javik every time you can he seems to end up with a pretty high score, thus some people here assumed he had to come out if you recruited him, this is not true.

TLDR To guarantee EDI walks out of the ship in any play through only talk to her and not your other squadies on the normandy.

[Mcfly616]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Actually the logical answer is that its relatively rare, and that the average gamer probably works for a living and.doesn't have the time to play a game with camcorder in hand in order to upload it to YouTube....like me....are you saying I haven't seen it? Because I know what my eyes have seen....and I'm obviously not the only one....idk why people would make such a thing up....

That unfortunately is not a reasonable excuse. People have the time to go through 3 games and craft the IT theory, people have time to film all the endings and post compare videos, people have the time to just post their endng, yet no one has the time to post an "EDI survives the destroy ending", something that's quite big and should be everywhere?

It's nothing personal against you but your claim that you saw EDI survive can easily be dismissed as you aren't providing any evidence to back it up. If you make a claim then you should be able to prove it, lack of proof and the reasoning that "people don't have the time to prove it" isn't proof unfortunately.

I fully support you proving it though, and if you do I will update my OP and give you full credit.

Bro, I've already given you my opinion of it....I can't speak.for anyone else, and I don't need to explain myself to you, nor do i have to prove anything to you....I don't give a rats ass if you believe me....you seem like you're one of those crazy people that watch Glenn Beck and think that Osama is still out there somewhere because you havent seen a YouTube video of his brains oozing out of his eye socket....

All I know is what I've seen. Is it a glitch/bug? I don't know.....did ME Twitter(not Jessica Merizan) say it wasn't a glitch? Yes they did(and then deleted it)

I don't find the need to say anymore after my earlier post is obviously unreadable to you....so I'll repost:

And again, I'm not sure why you doubt that the Starchild was untruthful with you....he literally states that Shepard has Reaper tech in him(implying he will die along with the Geth and EDI) if he chooses destroy....

I really don't see whats so hard to grasp....you see Shepard live even with Reaper tech....and yes that is Shepard breathing in the rubble...and yes he is alive(as stated on page 323 of the strategy guide)....

if Shepard can survive with reaper tech, why can't EDI? What's to say that the Starchild wasnt lying?

[Wabajakka]

BW has confirmed EDI can survive and the Catalyst basically lies.

/thread.

Modifié par Orange Tee, 18 avril 2012 - 04:01 .

[Nobrandminda]

Patrick Weekes mentioned it in that unofficial interview from PAX, but his reasoning for it was unintelligable.

It can't actually happen in the game currently, but maybe it will in the Extended Cut.

[Delta_V2]

hexediter wrote...

There is a hidden relationship score for every squadmate that ends up determining who walks out of the normandy at the end. Love interests obviously come first, this same score is also used to make other checks (like will kaiden/Ash come back to the normandy, will you have to shoot them ect.) If you want Edi to walk out with your LI then only talk to your LI and EDI on the ship so as to garuntee that EDI has a higher score then any of your other squadies. If you keep talking to javik every time you can he seems to end up with a pretty high score, thus some people here assumed he had to come out if you recruited him, this is not true.

TLDR To guarantee EDI walks out of the ship in any play through only talk to her and not your other squadies on the normandy.

That's what I thought before.  But how do you explain why the squadmates leaving the Normandy change when I reload the same save?  If it is based on this relationship meter (which we know exists from other points in the game), it should be the same people everytime you load a given save.  Instead, the first time I played through this save, I got Ashley+Garrus, but then I reloaded it and got Ashley+Javik (both times picking Destroy).  The only constant seems to be your LI is always one of the two.

[zninjazzero]

If you're still having trouble getting EDI at the end, you could always try a run through where Garrus, Tali, and the VS are dead, and don't pick up Javik. That way you only have Edi, Vega, and Liara. And no one's ever seen Vega walk out of the Normandy at the end.

[Clayless]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Bro, I've already given you my opinion
of it....I can't speak.for anyone else, and I don't need to explain
myself to you, nor do i have to prove anything to you....I don't give a
rats ass if you believe me....you seem like you're one of those crazy
people that watch Glenn Beck and think that Osama is still out there
somewhere because you havent seen a YouTube video of his brains oozing
out of his eye socket....

All I know is what I've seen. Is it a
glitch/bug? I don't know.....did ME Twitter(not Jessica Merizan) say it
wasn't a glitch? Yes they did(and then deleted it)

I don't find the need to say anymore after my earlier post is obviously unreadable to you....so I'll repost:


And again, I'm not sure why you doubt that the Starchild was untruthful
with you....he literally states that Shepard has Reaper tech in
him(implying he will die along with the Geth and EDI) if he chooses
destroy....

I really don't see whats so hard to grasp....you see
Shepard live even with Reaper tech....and yes that is Shepard breathing
in the rubble...and yes he is alive(as stated on page 323 of the
strategy guide)....

if Shepard can survive with reaper tech, why can't EDI? What's to say that the Starchild wasnt lying?

I don't know who Glenn Beck is, and no you don't need to explain yourself to me or anyone else unless you want to prove that EDI can survive. Until then your claim that she can survive can be dismissed as you have no proof to back it up. This isn't a wildly unobtainable request, it's just a simple one, can you please provide proof for your claim?

The reason why I ignored that second response is because this thread isn't about the Catalyst or Shepard, it's about EDI. Can you provide proof that Shepard can survive the destroy ending? Yes. Can you provide proof that EDI also survives? Or is it just an assumption that because an organic that's partially synthetic can survive, therefore a full synthetic will also survive? That's what you need to ask.

Modifié par Our_Last_Scene, 18 avril 2012 - 04:08 .

[Clayless]

Nobrandminda wrote...

Patrick Weekes mentioned it in that unofficial interview from PAX, but his reasoning for it was unintelligable.

It can't actually happen in the game currently, but maybe it will in the Extended Cut.

Technically he only stated that they argued whether or not EDI should survive. But crucially the conclusion of that argument is not detailed, and using the evidence we have (EDI dies in the destroy ending) it's reasonable to assume they settled with her dying in the destroy ending.

[DreamTension]

OP:

You should really rename the title to this thread (perhaps: "Anybody have video evidence of EDI living in destroy?") because it's really rare for people to read more than the title and maybe the first sentence.

Everybody: OP is asking for a VIDEO of DESTROY ending and EDI WALKING OUT.

I have actually NOT SEEN EDI walk out in the destroy ending, but I never used her so she wouldn't for me.

[Delta_V2]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

Technically he only stated that they argued whether or not EDI should survive. But crucially the conclusion of that argument is not detailed, and using the evidence we have (EDI dies in the destroy ending) it's reasonable to assume they settled with her dying in the destroy ending.

I still suspect that was what was originally intended, but I believe the people who say they have had her walk out of the Destroy ending.  I think this was just a bug, but Bioware is just rolling with it, since claiming EDI may survive Destroy is not the only thing they have said to make the ending seem less bleak.

[Mcfly616]

Dodging a subject that is Directly related with the topic of your argument? Haha


I never said it couldn't be dismissed....I understand that you need to "see it to believe it".....but I don't have a camera or a computer....

and all you've been doing this whole thread is saying that EDI does not survive because you have not seen it....well that's inherently false....yes it can be dismissed, but just because you haven't seen it, doesn't mean someone else hasn't....

[DreamTension]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Dodging a subject that is Directly related with the topic of your argument? Haha


I never said it couldn't be dismissed....I understand that you need to "see it to believe it".....but I don't have a camera or a computer....

and all you've been doing this whole thread is saying that EDI does not survive because you have not seen it....well that's inherently false....yes it can be dismissed, but just because you haven't seen it, doesn't mean someone else hasn't....

I really don't care two flips either way, but all the OP is asking for is some sort of visual confirmation on this.  There are literally hundreds of videos of the ending and honestly I don't remember seeing EDI walk out in the destroy ending either. 

Not saying it doesn't happen or that people are lying.  Don't care.  But there should be at least one video and the OP is asking to see it. 

[Mcfly616]

And this:

" And again, I'm not sure why you doubt that the Starchild was untruthful with you....he literally states that Shepard has Reaper tech in him(implying he will die along with the Geth and EDI) if he chooses destroy....

I really don't see whats so hard to grasp....you see Shepard live even with Reaper tech....and yes that is Shepard breathing in the rubble...and yes he is alive(as stated on page 323 of the strategy guide)....

if Shepard can survive with reaper tech, why can't EDI? What's to say that the Starchild wasnt lying?"



This ties directly into you're argument that EDI cant survive...and its quite obvious....Shepard and Reaper tech are used in the same sentence.....if you're argument isnt the fact that she.can't survive because of Reaper Tech...then you should stop making it seem that way and change the name of this thread to "I need Video Evidence showing EDI alive in Destroy ending or I won't believe it!! Blah blah"....

Because as it is, the title to this thread is misleading

[Clayless]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Dodging a subject that is Directly related with the topic of your argument? Haha


I never said it couldn't be dismissed....I understand that you need to "see it to believe it".....but I don't have a camera or a computer....

and all you've been doing this whole thread is saying that EDI does not survive because you have not seen it....well that's inherently false....yes it can be dismissed, but just because you haven't seen it, doesn't mean someone else hasn't....

Actually what I'm saying is there's no proof of her surviving. The claim I am making is she cannot survive the destroy ending, and all the evidence we have backs that up.

You are making the claim she can survive, and I am asking you to prove it. If someone else has seen it, if you can find someone, could you get them to prove it?

[robertm2]

she walked of my ship and i picked destroy. it doesnt make sense and may be just a bug but it can happen.

[Clayless]

robertm2 wrote...

she walked of my ship and i picked destroy. it doesnt make sense and may be just a bug but it can happen.

Could you provide proof for this? If so I will update my OP and give you full credit.

Modifié par Our_Last_Scene, 18 avril 2012 - 04:32 .

[Nimrodell]

Just imagine, EDI walks out from Normandy but now she's not EDI anymore, she's Luna VI again and her day of reckoning has finally come (killing spree and all as soon as she gets a hold of some turrets and drones) - good destiny I say lol.

On serious note: Catalyst didn't say that Shepard has Reaper tech inside - it said - synthetics are are already part of you.

[robertm2]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

robertm2 wrote...

she walked of my ship and i picked destroy. it doesnt make sense and may be just a bug but it can happen.

Could you provide proof for this? If so I will update my OP and give you full credit.

i can give you my address if you want to buy me a capture card. regardless bioware has already stated that it can happen and i know other people who have done it. just play the game take edi on every mission kill tali and garrus in the suicide mission and its a guarantee.

[Clayless]

robertm2 wrote...

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

robertm2 wrote...

she walked of my ship and i picked destroy. it doesnt make sense and may be just a bug but it can happen.

Could you provide proof for this? If so I will update my OP and give you full credit.

i can give you my address if you want to buy me a capture card. regardless bioware has already stated that it can happen and i know other people who have done it. just play the game take edi on every mission kill tali and garrus in the suicide mission and its a guarantee.

Do you have a video camera/phone that you could use?

[Clayless]

Also I mentioned earlier that I'll PM the guy that made that unofficial interview thread, it turns out he never made the interview, he just found it on another website.

[Iconoclaste]

Jeremy Winston wrote...

What I'd like to know is how the space magic that kills synthetics differentiates between the higher-eveolved EDI and the main computer system of the Normandy.

I mean, as good as Joker may be, if the computer system is gone, the fly-by-wire system that is the Normandy fails and he's flying a rock.

So, if he landed, he had a working computer system. But, software is software.. so... ?

The Normandy had a few burns and holes, but it was still in one piece. Maybe "EDI" is still in there, and just her platform was damaged. Reaper tech did not "disappear" with destroy ending, since we see the big crabs in London just fall to the ground. Yet in space, I saw 1 Reaper get volatilized, and the one closest to the camera resisted the wave...

Modifié par Iconoclaste, 18 avril 2012 - 05:13 .

[Clayless]

Just keeping this up, it's good information and all.

[The Protheans]

Yes she can survive.
You need her as a squadmate and certain parameters that don't include Javik.

Modifié par The Protheans, 18 avril 2012 - 07:08 .